Pakistan to join China-Russia Alliance (SCO)

A most interesting move, particularly coming at a time when NATO is starting to view the SCO as a rival since the SCO is planning joint military exercise.

Could Pakistan be taking sides with Russia and China in the next Cold War versus NATO?

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ISLAMABAD: President General Pervez Musharraf Saturday expressed strong hope for Pakistan to get full membership of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), saying it would not only benefit the country but will also help the regional grouping achieve its goal of peace, stability and promoting economic cooperation in the region.

He also held important meetings with Presidents of China, Russia, Iran and Afghanistan on the margins of the June 15 summit, besides having interaction with the leading Chinese and SCO business leaders to project Pakistan as an ideal destination for investment.

“I am very hopeful and reasonably sure that we will get the full membership of the (SCO) grouping,” President told reporters while flying back home after attending the SCO summit and a regional conference in Kazakhstan.

The President said that the six-nation grouping fully realizes that Pakistan can have a very important role in the SCO. Pakistan currently has an observer status along with Iran, India and Mongolia that groups China, Russia and four Central Asian states as its full members.

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Russia and China have already pledged to amend the SCO constitution to allow Pakistan to join

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ISLAMABAD: China and Russia have assured Pakistan of full dialogue partnership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), Information Minister Muhammad Ali Durrani said on Tuesday.

Addressing a press conference, he said that Russian President Vladimir Putin had told President Pervez Musharraf during a meeting on the sidelines of the SCO conference that the SCO charter would be amended to allow Pakistan’s entry to the organisation. The information minister said that under existing rules of the SCO, no new country could be made a full member of the organisation. Russia and China would initiate the process of amending the rules for Pakistan’s induction, he said.

He said that Pakistan had been given observer status to the body because of China’s efforts. President Musharraf’s recent visit to China had been “very beneficial for the country”, he said. The information minister said that Pakistan and Russia had agreed to “forget their past and usher in a new era of friendship”. The Russian president thanked Musharraf for supporting observer status for Russia in the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC). He said that Pakistan had offered “an energy corridor and access to warm waters (Arabian Sea and the Gulf)” to Russia, China and the landlocked Central Asian member states of the SCO. staff report

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An interesting analysis by London’s Financial Times on the SCO and its rivalry against the USA and NATO

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/ebebb744-0180-11db-af16-0000779e2340.html

For the first five years of its existence, the Shanghai Co-operation Organisation was thought of as little more than a talking shop for central Asian leaders.

Yet since the annual summit in Shanghai last week of the six-nation group – its members are China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan – diplomats have been trying to decide if the organisation is now becoming an important political entity.

This is partly down to Mahmoud Ahmadi-Nejad, the controversial Iranian president, who visited the Shanghai summit as an observer and talked of his desire for Iran to enter the SCO. His presence prompted speculation that the SCO could provide a diplomatic lifeline to Iran and hamper efforts to persuade Iran to abandon its uranium enrichment programme.

But as high oil prices have intensified the jostling for political power in central Asia, the questions raised by the SCO summit go much deeper. The group appears to underline China’s ever-expanding influence in the region and is taking a more confrontational attitude to the US. Critics in the US have tagged it with labels such as “Oriental Nato” and “Opec with nuclear weapons”.

“The SCO is emerging as a focus of global power which is competing with the US,” says Ariel Cohen, a Russia and Eurasia specialist at the Heritage Foundation, the conservative think-tank in the US.

“Its agenda, especially after Ahmadi-Nejad’s performance, is clear: to dictate to the US how things are done, and at what pace.”

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Coincidentally, Samuel Huntingdon's Clash of Civilisations predicted a close China-Pakistan alliance in partnership with Iran. Look for Iran joining the SCO shortly.

China as SCO leader, Russia as its right hand man, Pakistan and Iran and the Central Asian States as the henchmen.

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I hope Hussi-Oh (the laughing lady) SCO has some more teeth compared to Oh-I-See (OIC).

Dreams of pitting poor Pakistan against the West will never die in the little brains of Pakistani lefties. They will one day make sure Pakistan becomes the Afghanistani jannat as per the teachings of one-eyed Afghan wonder-boy.

While China and Russia increase their dependence and ties with the West,
While China and Russia make $billions while trading with the West,

Pakistani lefties are stuck with taking their 6 inch knife and pushing it in the 500 lb Western Gorilla. The result will off course be terrible for Pakistan. However Pakistani lefties don't care about Pakistan's future, prosperity, or safety. They are just hell bent on pitting us against the West, at every cost!

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It is quite signifcant that Russia has pledged that it is prepared to fund the IPI pipeline.

Gazprom backs gas pipeline from Iran to Pakistan, India - Putin

Russia’s gas giant Gazprom (RTS:GAZP) is prepared to contribute financing and technology to the construction of a gas pipeline from Iran to Pakistan and India, Russian President Vladimir Putin told journalists in Shanghai on Thursday. “Such a project would be quite profitable and realistic,” Putin said, adding that Turkmenistan also supported the program.

Putin categorically denied claims that a gas joint venture with Iran will amount to an OPEC-style entity. “OPEC is a cartel, while we will establish a joint venture. It will help coordinate our efforts on third countries’ markets and allow us to consolidate deposits located on the territory of the two countries,” the president said. So far, a gas joint venture with Iran is “just an idea. Its mechanism is yet to be devised,” he said.

http://www.interfax.ru/e/B/0/26.html?id_issue=11536029

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Just a piece of $hite from Putin dare I say! Putin do not want any gas-shas going anywhere unless it is the Ruskie gas.

Why do you guys think Putin has given nukie toys to Iran? Simply to create fasad (anarchy) south of Turkamanistan. So that he the Putin does not lose control on his gas.

So forget about any gas by Gazprom either through Iran or Afghanistan. It ain't happening.

Gazprom will come in this area only when it is sure that the lines won't disturb Russian monopoly.

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Gwadar’s role in Musharraf’s strategy

The port of Gwadar has emerged as a pivotal point in Musharraf’s political strategy. Whether it is a necessary diversion from more pressing domestic concerns or a central part of his international economic and political agenda is unclear. What is quite certain is that his government has put forward a very ambitious plan for building the Gwadar port. Surprisingly, this has gone largely unchallenged. General Pervez Musharraf adroitly used the backdrop of the summit meetings of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) to talk up Pakistan’s location as an ideal hub for international trade in energy and other products. In the years to come, he said the nations of Central Asia, the Middle East and South Asia would be able to use the under-construction deepwater port of Gwadar as a means of shipping their exports to world markets. He argued that by so doing they would be able to lower their shipping costs and move goods faster to market, gaining an important competitive advantage and building export revenues. Pakistan would gain revenues through shipping charges and through the economic development of the region around Gwadar, making this a win-win outcome.

The tone and content of Musharraf’s speeches represented a change in his rhetoric, since he has mostly talked about terrorism and enlightened moderation in prior speeches.** At the SCO meetings, he made sure he was seen with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and quoted as saying that Iran had a right to pursue the peaceful uses of nuclear energy.** He also spoke of the need to push forward with the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline. In addition, while visiting the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard in Shanghai where Pakistan’s first four F-22P naval frigates will be built, he spoke warmly of the “evergreen friendship” between China and Pakistan. **These images and words were used to carefully craft a distance between himself and the professed policies of Washington toward Iran and Beijing. **Washington, of course, views the former as a near-term and the latter as a long-term threat. This repositioning may transform Musharraf’s domestic image from being Bush’s poodle to an independent statesman who has Pakistan’s interest at heart and prove decisive in the next elections. It may also give him some leverage vis-à-vis the Americans, who have become quite demanding lately on the need to question Dr AQ Khan and who have offered a nuclear deal to India while refusing to give one to Pakistan.

The port of Gwadar has thus emerged as a pivotal point in Musharraf’s political strategy. Whether it is a necessary diversion from more pressing domestic concerns or a central part of his international economic and political agenda is unclear. What is quite certain is that his government has put forward a very ambitious plan for building the Gwadar port. Surprisingly, this has gone largely unchallenged. It entails the expenditure of billions of dollars and may well be the largest single project to be undertaken by Musharraf. The government has laid out a grand vision of Gwadar as the next Dubai. They mention that in 1976 Dubai was just another sleepy village at the edge of a desert known mostly for its fishing. Of course, there is much hyperbole in this comparison. Were it not proximate to the vast oilfields of the Gulf, Dubai may never have become a world-class port. And had it never become a global port, it would not have become one of the world’s most attractive business and tourist destinations. It would behove Pakistan’s parliamentarians to debate the merits of Gwadar. An informative agenda would comprise a wide variety of economic and geo-strategic questions. The first and foremost question is an economic one: Is there sufficient regional demand for the shipments of goods through Gwadar? Related questions include: How much is the volume of shipping going to grow in the region? What are the chances that the goods will be shipped from other ports? Even if the goods are bound for the Arabian Sea, ports in Iran, Oman and of course Dubai could be used. Turkish and Ukrainian ports along the Black Sea present alternatives as do Chinese ports along the Pacific. Admittedly, Gwadar reduces the distance from the mid-point of Xinjiang province to a seaport by about half and may enable cheaper and faster shipment of goods. However, before they can be shipped through Gwadar, they would have to traverse through two unstable provinces in another country where the rail and road links are in poor shape. An even more fundamental question is a geo-strategic one: Why are the Chinese plunking millions of dollars into the construction of a port at Gwadar? Is it simply to save on shipping costs? Xinjiang does not produce much economic output today and it is unlikely to do so for at least another decade, being the least developed part of China. Is Beijing seeking to safeguard its sea lanes to the Persian Gulf? This is consistent with the “string of pearls” theory that has been put forward by the Pentagon. A Chinese naval presence in Gwadar, achieved by making it a port of call for their nuclear-powered submarines, could draw Pakistan into the emerging Cold War between Washington and Beijing.

Of course, the real reason for the port may be the Pakistan Navy’s desire to prevent giving the Indian navy an encore performance of the 1971 war with India, in which it found itself blockaded in the port of Karachi. Karachi, located barely 150 kilometres from the Indian border, hosts the country’s only naval dockyards, repair and overhauling facilities. If the navy is bottled up, it cannot protect the country’s sea lanes. Currently, more than 95 percent of traded goods are transported by ships exclusively through Karachi. The admirals argue that any disruption of Pakistan’s sea lanes would cripple Pakistan’s economy. However, this factor would only be of academic interest in case of a full-scale war with India. Thus far, all of Pakistan’s conflicts with India have terminated in a few weeks. Disruption of maritime trade would be the least of Pakistan’s worries in a future conflict. A more pressing problem would be posed by an American arms embargo that would effectively cripple Pakistan’s Air Force. Without air cover, the Pakistani Army would cease to function as a fighting force in a few weeks and the war would be lost. During the 1980s, General Zia used Gwadar as a pivot in his attempt to gain legitimacy for his regime by drawing the US into the region. He portrayed Gwadar as a primary driver behind the Soviet push into Afghanistan, which he argued was designed to get the Soviet navy a warm water port, something that the Czars had only dreamed about. In one of those ironic twists that history keeps turning up, General Musharraf is now offering the same port as a gateway to the Russians, the Central Asian states and China, possibly as a means to create some respectable distance between himself and the Americans.

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