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Lets go with your example then. 3000 US Dollars for one family of 10 people. How much money do you need for 20,000 people?
Lets go with your example then. 3000 US Dollars for one family of 10 people. How much money do you need for 20,000 people?
Who is paying 3,000 dollars to one family? The tribal areas have sustained insurgencies against the British, the Soviets and now against Pakistan as well. Arms and men are smuggled in small groups and shipments, while availability of weapons in the region is ample as it is sold on the black market or already available in every tribal home or even made in the region. Fund are procured through partly opium smuggling, donations from islamic charities in Pakistan and the Gulf. There are millions of muslims in Pakistan and abroad who sympathize with the terrorists.
Funding is a non issue for them, they have the backing of the global jihadi movement which has deep pockets in the rich Gulf states.
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sigh Yeah they go to the local ATM machine and take out a card to access these funds. Why didn't I see that before?
Lets go with your example then. 3000 US Dollars for one family of 10 people. How much money do you need for 20,000 people?
Around $6 million which can be easily raised through one drugs shipment. PEANUTS.
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Again not thinking of the logistics. You would need to cover:
- Transport
- Security
- Bribery
- Storage
etc.
That all costs money. That is simple. There are logistic costs for maintaining, feeding and arming 20,000 men. This amount of money to have on a yearly basis for 5 years is impossible to accure and store without support for different locations outside of Pakistan.
Again not thinking of the logistics. You would need to cover:
- Transport
- Security
- Bribery
- Storage
etc.
That all costs money. That is simple. There are logistic costs for maintaining, feeding and arming 20,000 men. This amount of money to have on a yearly basis for 5 years is impossible to accure and store without support for different locations outside of Pakistan.
Taliban collect taxes from local people in areas they rule, had control of lucrative emerald mines until some time ago, are involved in smuggling drugs and other things. Kidnapping, bank robberies have also been proven to be great ways of making money. The tribal areas and its people excel at making money through the black market. Baitullah's empire that is being fought over right now is partly also because of how much money he had amassed.
There is no mystery here.
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^ did they go to madrassas or Altaf Bhai Tution Center?
The tide has turned against the khawarij.
lol CM my post was sarcastic dude, i thought as much obvious.
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anyhow i see in the thread that opium has been readily brought up as a source for income. Interesting to find out the UN record on the production of opium under taliban and the increase in its production since the coalition forces have supposedly entered the region. Who do you blame for that increase? saudis? taliban or coalition forces?
anyhow i see in the thread that opium has been readily brought up as a source for income. Interesting to find out the UN record on the production of opium under taliban and the increase in its production since the coalition forces have supposedly entered the region. Who do you blame for that increase? saudis? taliban or coalition forces?
Irrelevant point to the discussion. Now that the the taliban need funds, they are relying on opium revenue as areas under their control like helmand are thriving with opium. Though donations from extremist salafi muslims worldwide are known to be a big funding resource as well.
Irrelevant point to the discussion. Now that the the taliban need funds, they are relying on opium revenue as areas under their control like helmand are thriving with opium. Though donations from extremist salafi muslims worldwide are known to be a big funding resource as well.
hardly irrelevant ! the first thing that comes to mind is that if you want to weaken enemy damage their finances. I fail to see what scruples stop coalition forces from controlling or banning opium production. now on the other hand if it was in the invested interest of coalition forces to stick around they would make sure they had reason to justify their presence.
hardly irrelevant ! the first thing that comes to mind is that if you want to weaken enemy damage their finances. I fail to see what scruples stop coalition forces from controlling or banning opium production. now on the other hand if it was in the invested interest of coalition forces to stick around they would make sure they had reason to justify their presence.
So you're admitting now that the taliban are getting funding from opium in the province of helmand where they have so far the most control?
Good, one step at a time.
^like a gold fish, arent u?
someone sure is making a mint by the increase of the production and sales of opium but question is who do you attribute it to?talibs? salfis? saudis? makes me wonder why wasnt this income source exploited when they were in power and obviously needed money?
now think real hard and slow, who is responsible for this and and who benefits?
^like a gold fish, arent u? someone sure is making a mint by the increase of the production and sales of opium but question is who do you attribute it to?talibs? salfis? saudis? makes me wonder why wasnt this income source exploited when they were in power and obviously needed money?
now think real hard and slow, who is responsible for this and and who benefits?
Thinking is not your strong point here is it? Taliban controls the province where opium production is the strongest. Get it?
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Opium and heroine production and smuggling has been the biggest local commercial business activity in Afghanistan. Every group fighting for control and power in Afghanistan, who does not have foriegn donors to their cause have been involved in this activity. The various Mujahideen group used drug money for their funding when US and other funds dried up after the Russian withdrawl and subsequent fall of Najib regime. Taliban also had no problems with it until they realized that drug money was the only major source of income for their only nemesis left, Ahmad Shah Masood. That is when they banned the drug trade. It did not effect Taliban that much since they had foriegn donors from Pakistan and Arab states but crippled the Northern alliance financially.
Now that the Taliban foriegn money sources have diminished they have no problem with drug production and smuggling in the areas they control. The corrupt Afghan government and warlords are busy in this business, miniting money for themselves. They control the northern areas where most of these drugs are smuggled through to central asia and Russia.
In the end, it is all about money, power and control. It is also part of the general Afghan attitude towards drug production and smuggling as morally acceptable.
Thinking is not your strong point here is it? Taliban controls the province where opium production is the strongest. Get it?
but clearly you are very door andaish. so didnt taliban control that very province prior to 2000? or didnt they need money prior to war of terror? and then again a regime that has been actively causing more civilians life loss than militant turns coy when it comes to opium fields? funny it can be asserted that taliban could ban opium to hinder northern alliance profiting but coalition cannot do the same to stop talibs? yea credibility is the strongest point of this theory.
but clearly you are very door andaish. so didnt taliban control that very province prior to 2000? or didnt they need money prior to war of terror? and then again a regime that has been actively causing more civilians life loss than militant turns coy when it comes to opium fields? funny it can be asserted that taliban could ban opium to hinder northern alliance profiting but coalition cannot do the same to stop talibs? yea credibility is the strongest point of this theory.
No, they didn't need all that money because there were open funding lines all the way from the gulf to pakistan to taliban, courtesy of isi and jihadi movement. There were no restrictions on islamist "charities" like al rashid trust pre 9/11.
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^extra money hurts them perhaps? and even if that rubbish can be accepted it still doesnt answer as to why there is such a humungous increase right under the coalition's nose. it hurts some of us to admit that usa might have interests in this war and that those might be imperial in nature. wonder why? do we think they are out to purify the world?