Pakistan situation and Takfeeri Ideology

Takfeeri Ideology is taking Pakistan to backward direction. Our elders saw that time when social life was very liberal.

Every dictator sell one particular and unique ideology (manjan)…

Ayuob Khan’s economic…

Yahya Khan’s … Bengalis are traitor

Zia ul Haque… Takfeeri Ideology…

Musharraf… moderation and enlightenment…

We can see 180 degree huge gap .. both Musharraf and Zia were in opposite direction… Zia’s seeds are now become strong tree… and all upset in our country related to terrorism is direct fruit to Pakistan…

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Due credit should given to Shaeed Mohtarma Benazir Bhutto.. who saw very tough trial and tabulation… She used to say… Zia ki baqyat Pakistan ko tabah karny par tulli hoye hian…

I don’t think common PPP jiyala could understand what they lost… They lost a very great leader… woh bhi iss ideology ki zad main aa giya…

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I dont have a clear understanding about takfeeri ideology so wont comment about it. But agree with wuts said about dictators in OP. These military rules and its favourites are all what have hurting us down to the core.

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Main to musalman hon.. par tu nahi hia… is all about takfeeri ideology…

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I dont think thats all of it. I know some of the “Barelvi” people who do salam and wear green turbans. They dont consider all others muslims either. And i’m sure they are not takfeeri

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Ghazi Mumtaz ko dekh lain… usny bhi tafeer kiya aur governor ko mar dala…
society kay element iss takfeeri nazariye ko kisi nay kisi soart main parwan char ha rahay hian…

JI… Talban ko shaheed kehty hian… woh jo kay hamary masoom bachon ko mar rahay hian… nazar nahi aata…
SSP, LeJ… ksii na kissi sorat main ya to sohalat kar banty hain ya phir bomber bhej kar mazar aur daghaon ko ura dety hain.
Taliban kabhi police academy par hamla awar hotay hian.. ya phir GHQ ya Navy facilities main pohanch kar hamla karty hian…

in sab ki motivation wohi hai.. kay woh degar logon ko musalman nahi samjhty hain…

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How long is PPP going to play the sympathy card?Her death was a sad incident, one of thousands of terror incidents. But that doesnt mean she was clean. She was a corrupt PM, had a big hand in the creation of Taliban, looted the exchequer through her husband, tried to wipe her slate clean by following in Nawaz Sharifs footsteps, through NRO-2…and her death itself has many questions unanswered.

And I noticed above that you ascribed the ‘bengalis are traitors’ ideology to Yahya, but not to his buddy who later went on to become the PM, and Pakistan’s only civilian martial law administrator.

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According to him Bengalis are “sooar ka bachay jahnum mein jain”.. How quickly people forget the architect of 71. :slight_smile:

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I dont think that takfeeri is root cause here, the basic thing is HATE, when takfeeri were not around, we were victim of ethnic hatred…

Even today it is ethnic and takfeeri together fueled by hate, tomorriw when this takfeeri will fade away, some other form of hate would be there…

The lack of tolerance, with not knowing how to disagree resptecfully, with foul lingo by leadership…yup ground is ready for new hatred once takfeeri goes in back-ground

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THIS!!

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This is general perception that PPP gov’t under Benazir supported Taliban.. But this is not true.
ISI and agencies created them during Zia era, and flourish them during 90s… It is not like Benazir supported them… But she was forced to do.
Benazir could not visit Kahota Research Lab.. This was the reality of her status… Even though, she was PM, but she was not allowed in certain matters.

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Lets not confuse Taliban with ‘mujahideen’. Mujahideen was a group of fighters who were basically fighting the Soviets…(incidentally, mujahideen were created/armed by ZAB as well…not Zia, as the common perception goes.)

Taliban came into being in 1994 after USSR’s demise, and yes, Benazir supported it, tacitly or not. Her aim may have been to gain favor from domestic idiots like JUIF, but she used it for political motives.

And her banishment from Kahuta was perhaps for good measure, because according to AQ Khan, she was the one who ordered him to transfer nuke secrets to Korea and Iran

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Yaar itna acha topic start kya!!! Aur ab phir petty party politics kay gird ghomna shoro ker diya…

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