Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

[ehtasab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@Aalsi

Mashallah. This is what I was talking about above.

BBC News | South Asia | Opposition happy at Sharif dismissal

Opposition happy at Sharif dismissal

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Mrs Bhutto urged fresh elections and a return to civilian rule Pakistan’s opposition has welcomed the removal of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a cautious reaction to the military takeover of the country.

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Former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and Imran Khan, a former cricket star and leader of the Justice party, have said the move was not unexpected.

Both politicians blamed Mr Sharif for sparking Tuesday’s military coup.

Ms Bhutto told the BBC in London that Mr Sharif was an “unpopular dictator” whose attempts to divide the army had triggered the military revolt. “Mr Sharif boasted he was a man of crisis,” Ms Bhutto said. “This crisis overcame him.” She said he had attacked the president and the supreme court, as well as accusing the press of treason. “He fought with everyone.”

Ms Bhutto also said members of the ruling parliamentary party were backing Pakistan’s army chief because they felt that Mr Sharif was turning the country into a police state.

But Ms Bhutto, a long-time adversary of Mr Sharif, said she did not think the army had any choice but to revert to civilian rule.

“My message to the army is that if you were provoked into the action the world will understand if you give a firm date for fair elections and go back to the barracks.”

Asked about a possible return to Pakistan, Ms Bhutto said she would only do so if General Musharraf supported the “forces of democracy”.

She faces arrest on her return home after being convicted by a Pakistan court of corruption.

**Imran attack

****Meanwhile, leader of Pakistan’s Tehreek-e-insaaf (Justice) party, Imran Khan, said people in Pakistan welcomed the coup.

** **“The sad thing is, everyone in this country has welcomed the army,” he told the BBC.

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Mr Sharif ran a fascist government, he said, and wanted to gain control over every institution in the country in order to become “a middle-eastern monarch”.**

“The only thing that stood in the way of Sharif from becoming a complete dictator was the army and he was trying to manipulate the army to get his man on top.”**

But Imran Khan also said he did not believe that Pakistan was headed towards instability and a confrontation with neighbouring India.

“If anything, the country is more stable now,” he said.

Another party, the right-wing Jamaat-e-Islami party said Mr Sharif’s decision to pull forces out of Kashmir earlier this year meant he had to go.

“He was an incapable and a corrupt leader. He mishandled the economy, acted like a dictator and blundered on Kashmir,” a party official, Syed Munnawar Hassan said.

“The retreat was a setback for Pakistan, Kashmiris and the army of Pakistan. It was a betrayal of the Kashmir cause,” he said.

Opposition parties in Pakistan recently joined forces in an attempt to force out the Sharif government.

its easy to use article which show politicians’ statement of “welcoming the army” but when the same politicians want army to go back into barracks because “everyone wants army back in barracks” they get labelled liars :rotfl:

[Captain1]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@Aalsi

I believe the first thing the Pakistanis should do is to teach every candidate that is running for Parliament and are supposed to uphold the constitution, how the democracy works and the importance of upholding the constitution.

Yes, they should be taught. They should be tightly checked by establishing some institution (which army cannot touch :p) and held accountable for their actions when they are in govt.

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we can then start blaming the Army - an institution that has been more democratic than the alleged democratic parties in Pakistan.
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Please keep BS with yourself. If you are going to use media as the only "democratic" progress for Mushy then he gets 3/10 for that, don't give "army" the credit for that as we have Zia who was also from army but didn't do squat. So it was not "army policy" which allowed these developments.

[ehtasab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@Aalsi

First thing people should remember is that not to take politicians like Nawaz Sharif and Zaradri seriously when they talk about freedom of judiciary and upholding democratic values. Afterall, they are the ones who either invaded the supreme court or allegedly killed judges, and assumed leadership of their party through non-democratic means - such as a 'WILL'.

On the same account we should not take army as sacred institution who surrounded SC, who ousted a CJ and who destroyed a constitution :p

[ehtasab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@Aalsi

There was nothing illegal that the Great President Musharaf did. Whatever he did was validated by the Supreme Court (including the certain Ifitikhar Chaudhry), and further validated by the elected Parliament under the 17th Amendment. The validation by the Supreme Court and the elected Parliament has provided the seal of approval as not being illegal. :)

For people like you even if Musharraf drops a nuke on the country it will not be illegal.

[Aalsi]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@ehtasab

For people like you even if Musharraf drops a nuke on the country it will not be illegal.

What nukes? :)

[fashion_trendz]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

Politicians are the biggest nukes themselves for the nation

[Hum_Hain_Lajawab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

So Aalsi, if someone wants to call Apple Oranges and the rerhi wala approves it, is that gonna make them oranges? :D

[ehtasab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@Hum_Hain_Lajawab

So Aalsi, if someone wants to call Apple Oranges and the rerhi wala approves it, is that gonna make them oranges?

Don’t call Musharraf a rehri-wala

[Hum_Hain_Lajawab]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

I guess it will :p

[PyariCgudia]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

None of these problems will go away until you get rid of feudalism. Until then, whoever has the most land will continue to dictate how democracy is applied in Pakistan, and the army will have to keep coming in the way whenever it finds itself in conflict with the government politics.

Ridiculous. How many years has Pakistan been in existence and people can't figure out that in the end, this is the root of the problem?

[Aalsi]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@PyariCgudia

None of these problems will go away until you get rid of feudalism. Until then, whoever has the most land will continue to dictate how democracy is applied in Pakistan, and the army will have to keep coming in the way whenever it finds itself in conflict with the government politics.

Ridiculous. How many years has Pakistan been in existence and people can't figure out that in the end, this is the root of the problem?

It appears they never will. :)

[Zakk]

Re: Pakistan should teach Politicians to uphold the constitution.

@PyariCgudia

None of these problems will go away until you get rid of feudalism. Until then, whoever has the most land will continue to dictate how democracy is applied in Pakistan, and the army will have to keep coming in the way whenever it finds itself in conflict with the government politics.

This is a bit of a myth often used to justify military intervention. What %age of PM's or Presidents have been major feudals in Pakistan? Who are the major feudals and who do they support..invariably they have a symbiotic relationship with the military who in turn patronises them and allows them to continue their hold..but even then in Pak politics the feudal factor is usually an excuse for not allowing democracy.