Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
We have nothing to gain from Israel but a bad name... We shouldnt recognize a nation that is born of such deceit and bred on the suffering of millions of people...
I mean, it boils my blood to read how this little crap nation treats an entire people like they are cattle.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
^^ reminds me of Pakistan
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Is there anything other than financial assistance that the Arab countries can help Pakistan with. If Pakistan can negotiate a great aid package from USA then I would recognize Israel.
Pakistan will not get any financial aid by accepting that illegal colonial zio-nazi state. Some idiots on this forum think that Jooz will flood pakland with money if we recognize the aparthied zion-nazi state. Nor does pakistan get money from arab countries.
Ofcourse this is easier said that done. The biggest problem is not the discontinuation of Arab economic support but internal political upheaval and people unrest. The best way is to use media to alienate people from their views until the time is right. .
Thanks God that Pakistan now has free media. No pro-western dictator can use media any more to fool people, because they don't control media any more. The media now shows news from the people's point of view and the times of state-controlled tv are over in our country. the zio-nazi dream of fooling people through their pro-western dictators is over, because of independent tv channels.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
But now Pakistan needs to forge its separate foreign policy and the first step is recognizing Israel
The statement above is coming from a canadian idiot who has never permanently lived in Pakistan and is telling pakistan what to do.
No more that 1% of paks in pakistan share your moronic views, so all you can do is spread your idiotic views on internet forums.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
The statement above is coming from a canadian idiot who has never permanently lived in Pakistan and is telling pakistan what to do.
First of all dont use an abusive tone towards me.
Secondly, so what if I have never lived in Pakistan. I know more about Pakistan than most Pakistanis.
Listening to people who actually live there. A lot of good that has done.
No more that 1% of paks in pakistan share your moronic views, so all you can do is spread your idiotic views on internet forums.
I may have views but its neither moronic nor idiotic. Your post and your intellect however is.
Talk to me like this again, and MODS will be alerted.
Kapish
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
pakistan should recognise israel and stop supporting those good for nothing arabs, we owe them nothing, theyd stab us in the back without thinking twice, why should we care about them
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
pakistan should recognise israel and stop supporting those good for nothing arabs, we owe them nothing, theyd stab us in the back without thinking twice, why should we care about them
Mind telling us how they have stabbed us in the back?
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
I cannot figure out what Pakistan will gain by recognising Israel. There is much more to lose.
First, our stand is a principled one and accepting Israel will weaken our argument on Kashmir.
Even though some Arab countries recognize Israel themselves, if we do so before them, there will be a backlash in those countries. Although the aid from Arab countries to Pakistan is not a make or break for us, it is still substantial and we do get subsidized oil from Arabs. The biggest impact maybe on the millions strong workforce whose families depend on their earnings and a good chunk of Pakistani Foreign exchange comes from them. Majority of this workforce is labor class and is already discriminated because they talk back and are not gumsum bezaban like the Bangladeshis, Srilankans and South Indians.
The most damaging impact, for any government, will probably come from internal backlash. Be it any of the Muslim League, PPP or Musharraf himself, general Pakistanis will not favor such a move and the government would lose a lot of good will and be called Kafir and whatnot.
If anybody thinks that it will neutralize the effect that India-Israel close ties have then they are not right. You have to understand that relationship first. Israeli soldiers have been going to Goa for decades now, some never return and have business running in India, some revisit it after every so many years. We can never provide what they get in India and Israelis will never feel close to us like they are with the Indians.
Someone enlighten me on the positives please.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
First, our stand is a principled one and accepting Israel will weaken our argument on Kashmir.
How?
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
First, our stand is a principled one and accepting Israel will weaken our argument on Kashmir.
How on this earth will that compromise our principle and national ideology?
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Isreal occupied palestenian land, the same claim we have over Kashmir. what is so difficult to understand there?
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Isreal occupied palestenian land, the same claim we have over Kashmir. what is so difficult to understand there?
We do recognize India which occupied Kashmir.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
yes but our dispute started after our recognition of India. The Palestenian issue may not be a photo copy of Kashmir, however, in my view, it does weaken our argument, no need to dissect my words.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
^^ reminds me of Pakistan
Pakistan was born out of dialogue, and if Pakistan has made mistakes, it has paid for them...
Israel was born out of deceit, wheeling and dealing... At has caused and continues to cause misery to Millions of people.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Pakistan will not get any financial aid by accepting that illegal colonial zio-nazi state. Some idiots on this forum think that Jooz will flood pakland with money if we recognize the aparthied zion-nazi state. Nor does pakistan get money from arab countries.
Thanks God that Pakistan now has free media. No pro-western dictator can use media any more to fool people, because they don't control media any more. The media now shows news from the people's point of view and the times of state-controlled tv are over in our country. the zio-nazi dream of fooling people through their pro-western dictators is over, because of independent tv channels.
Most jews in Israel are extremely biased towards Muslims, including Pakistan. Israel will perfer India in every turn... They have no warm spot for Pakistan, so its just wishful thinking to believe the Zionists will roll over themselves to support Pakistan or help it in any way.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Pakistan was born out of dialogue, and if Pakistan has made mistakes, it has paid for them... Israel was born out of deceit, wheeling and dealing... At has caused and continues to cause misery to Millions of people.
correct!
israel can have recognition once palestine state is established with alquds as capital
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Pakistan was born out of dialogue, and if Pakistan has made mistakes, it has paid for them... Israel was born out of deceit, wheeling and dealing... At has caused and continues to cause misery to Millions of people.
History revisionism is amazing around here. Is it brainwashing or do people think by repeating it enough for decades will make it true? The creation of Israel was created out of decades of dialogue and a UN mandate of land formerly occupied by the UK (there was no country of Palestine). The mistakes were made by the Arabs who instead of taking 1/2 land that was part of the plan, tried to take it all by attacking Israel. The subsequent whoopings by Israel and total corrupt and ineffective leadership of the Arabs are what has caused decades of misery for millions of people.
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Most jews in Israel are extremely biased towards Muslims, including Pakistan. Israel will perfer India in every turn... They have no warm spot for Pakistan, so its just wishful thinking to believe the Zionists will roll over themselves to support Pakistan or help it in any way.
Really?
You have any factual proof of this or just making stuff out of thin air?
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
Pakistan was born out of dialogue, and if Pakistan has made mistakes, it has paid for them... Israel was born out of deceit, wheeling and dealing... At has caused and continues to cause misery to Millions of people.
Israel was born from an UN mandate to partition Palestine
kinda reminds me how Pakistan was created
Re: Pakistan should recognise Israel.
a UN mandate of land formerly occupied by the UK (there was no country of Palestine). The mistakes were made by the Arabs who instead of taking 1/2 land that was part of the plan, tried to take it all by attacking Israel. .
who the fu*k are you white people to occupy other people's land and then give 1/2 to another foreign group ? Why the hell would any native population give up half of their land, cause white nazi colonizers occupy it and then partition it ?