Pakistan`s Stand On Iraq Issue (merged)

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Munir Akram, Pakistan’s Ambassador to the U.N., recently spoke with BusinessWeek Senior Writer Rose Brady about his government’s deliberations over Iraq. Here are edited excerpts of the conversation:

Q: This must be an interesting time to be a U.N. ambassador.
A: Certainly, it’s a time of very intense diplomacy over an issue that is of major significance for world peace. It has kept the U.N. more or less in the eye of the storm. That could be good for the U.N. It can contribute to peace and security and to Iraqi disarmamanet. But of course, the Security Council has to keep its eye on the ball and remain united and effective.

Q: How will you vote on the U.S.-Britain resolution?
A: The resolution is not being put to a vote yet. There’s still time. Our desire is to establish the credibility of the inspections process. Of course, we hope we could do so by Iraqi cooperation and by reports from inspectors that things are working. And if and when we can establish that credibility, we hope the inspections process can go forward and peacefully achieve the elimination of Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.

Q: Does that mean you will vote against the resolution?
A: We will have to determine a position at the time it is put to a vote. Circumstances may be different at that time. We should not bother ourselves at the moment with that. If we want a peaceful settlement, [we need] to establish the credibility of the inspections process. Given the fact that there is a real urgency, we hope the Iraqis will offer full cooperation, and we hope that the council will be able to reach the conclusion that inspections can work.

Q: Is the U.S. lobbying your government hard – for example by offering additional aid or other incentives to Pakistan?
A: If you’re [asking] whether any offers have been made to us, no we have not received [any]. This is not a matter of trading votes. It’s a much more serious issue of international peace and security. Pakistan’s stakes are very high because it is a country from the region. It’s an Islamic country. There will be implications [in] a conflict for us. This is a matter of much greater importance than just a question of incentives of that nature.

Q: Are you satisfied with the level of aid Pakistan receives from the U.S.? It was increased in the wake of September 11, 2001.
A: I don’t think we are satisfied. We would always express the hope that the U.S. can be more generous, not only because we think Pakistan deserves it but because we think it’s in the interest of the U.S. We are fighting a battle for the promotion of modernization and democracy in one of the largest Islamic countries. We hope the U.S. will not only continue but will enlarge its support politically and economically.

Q: How so?
A: Trade access is one area. Economic assistance. Debt writedowns. Political support. Provision of certain military parts that we need… We are hoping for a much more broad-based intensified relationship with the U.S.

Q: Do you think Pakistan’s relations with the U.S. will be damaged if you don’t vote for the U.S.-British resolution?
A: We hope not. The U.S. President has said [the U.S.] doesn’t need a Security Council resolution. Even if things don’t work out in the Council, we certainly hope that there will be no impact on our relations. Each country acts according to its own perception [of the situation].

Q: Are you concerned that a war in Iraq could divert attention from troubles in your own region – in Afghanistan, for example?
A: Yes, certainly. That’s a major concern for us. And we have been reassured that American attention will not drift away. But it is a preoccupation not only for Pakistan but for the Afghan government as well. Indian forces remain on our borders. We have a problem over Kashmir, and India refuses to talk to us [about that]. It is a troubling situation.

Pak-US friednship at its best, it kinda shows how the Kashmir will be solved. A few days back Vajpayee expressed dismay on American role on Kashmir, and then Bush telephoned him, and reiterated that he will influence Pakistan to halt the cross border terrorism, and now Bush is asking Musharraf to do more to improve ties with India. Hence according to him, Pakistan is responsible for the poor relations between the two countries. I hope the guys who are vehemently supporting US now, will stick to their guns when Americans turn against us. And I feel that would be shortly after the Iraq war.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_7-3-2003_pg7_1

**Bush, Musharraf discuss Iraq, ties with India
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WASHINGTON: **US President George Bush urged President Pervez Musharraf on Wednesday to help reduce tensions with India over Kashmir.

During the five minute call, Bush told Musharraf of the “need to continue to reduce tensions along the line of control and the need to avoid violence,” said Sean McCormack, the White House National Security Council spokesman.

On Tuesday Bush assured Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee that Washington continued to press Pakistan to halt the alleged infiltration of Muslim guerrillas into disputed Kashmir, according to an Indian government source. **

Zaavia,

Bush has alot of mess on his desk. Iraq, Iran, North Korea and Al- Qaeda are just the beginning. Then, we have Domestic problems at home. Therefore, that makes Bush's arms more twisted.

Problems between Pakistan and India over Kashmir is not new. It's been a long 50 years old stand. Therefore, easy for Uncle Sam to give the same Lolly Pop. :)

How U.S gonna solve the Kashmir dispute? I really doubt Americans sincerity because there will be no reason behind India's whinning of threat from Pakistan; and U.S and U.K couldn't be able to sell more Arms to India, anymore. Jimmy Carter is expected to be in the Sub-Continent later this Spring(May, 03). I don't think he would be succeed but I'm dead sure, he will get a warm welcome from Pakistan and India.

Oh btw, U.S-Pakistan aren't friends. Two allies in time of need. :)

By forcing Pakistan to accept, LOC=IB. Just keep watching, it wouldnt be long when Pakistan will solve the Kashmir dispute once for all.

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How U.S gonna solve the Kashmir dispute?
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By forcing Pakistan to accept, LOC=IB. Just keep watching, it wouldnt be long when Pakistan will solve the Kashmir dispute once for all.

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Zaavia,

Who u kiddin' to? Since when the Western World cares about the Third World?

I'm watchin'. I have been watchin' God knows since when.

I repeat:

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I really doubt Americans sincerity because there will be no reason behind India's whinning of threat from Pakistan; and U.S and U.K couldn't be able to sell more Arms to India, anymore.
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Need I say more. Again, Pakistan doesn't have to accept LoC as a IB. It's the right of Kashmiris to decide whether be a part of Pakistan, India or an Independent State. :)

PT just wait and see, the way we ditch the Kashmiris, like Sheikh rashid is saying that the dispute will be solved within the next 3 years, so its not a long time to go.

Sheikh Rashid, :rotfl: I like this guy. He never fails to amuse me. Al right, we’ll see what’s gonna happen in next three years.

This is the feelings of the leader leading the only Islamic country with the atomic bomb. If he cant bear the pressures he should just make way for some other guy who can bear them.

http://www.dawn.com/2003/03/07/top7.htm
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Musharraf’s dilemma on Iraq war
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WASHINGTON, March 6: President Pervez Musharraf confessed on Thursday he wished his country had not been elected to the UN Security Council, as he wrestles with a dilemma of how to vote on war with Iraq.

Gen Musharraf is torn between support for his anti-terror ally, the United States, and the knowledge that a decision to back war against a fellow Muslim nation could unleash a torrent of domestic criticism.

“One keeps saying in Pakistan that we were very happy when we were elected a member of the Security Council,” Gen Musharraf said in an interview with ABC television.

“But now we really are thinking whether we should have been happy. This is not really a moment where we should have been members of the Security Council, to be in such a difficult position.”

Gen Musharraf declined to say exactly what position Pakistan would take, as the United States and Britain push a new resolution that could pave the way to war with Iraq.-AFP

It doesn't make any difference whether Pakistan supports the war on Iraq or not,the U.S. doesn't need pakistan's support to conduct a war there.They've already expressed their intentions of going to war with or without the U.N's blessings.
I dont see any muslim country coming forward to relieve the Iraqi ppl of the pain and suffering they're going through.Any domestic revolutionary effort by the Iraqis has failed to bear fruit cause of Saddam's stranglehold on the country.I think a change in regime,which seems unavoidable now that Bush's finger is itching to pull the trigger,will be a good thing.Lets see wht happens..

Zaavia,

You take over. :hehe:

i dont want to enrage our khalifa on this forum... :)

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i dont want to enrage our khalifa on this forum... :)
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Hey! I am the only declared Khilafa on this forum.. Khilafa Johny Walker

Update: Pakistan’s Stand on Iraq

From Yahoo

Pakistani Ambassador Munir Akram said: "We believe that there is no imminent threat to international peace and security. The cost of delay in our view will be much less than the cost of war.

The Pakistani government nor the Indian government have niether the moral or political responsibility to make Kashmir's LOC= IB.

The faster Saddam is gone the better, maybe the next Iraqi leadership will be friendlier to Pakistan.

Thats true, by making Iraq our friend, I am sure we will lose the rest of the Arab countries.

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The faster Saddam is gone the better, maybe the next Iraqi leadership will be friendlier to Pakistan.
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Thats true, by making Iraq our friend, I am sure we will lose the rest of the Arab countries.

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Zaavia Sahab, like we had any respect in the Arab world..

Update:
Pakistan has said it will not support military action against Iraq.

Extract:

Prime Minister Zafarullah Jamali told parliament that his government was opposed to any action that could harm the people of a Muslim country. Correspondents say this is Pakistan’s first clear statement on the subject of war with Iraq.

Mr Jamali, who is scheduled to visit the US later in the month, made his statement as parliament began a debate on the subject of war with Iraq.
“Pakistan will not become part of any aggression against Iraq,” he told members of the lower house. "

It’s not confirmed whether Pakistan would vote against resolution or abstain. No matter how would U.S reacts, this move by Jamali will certainly improve his image among Pakistanis. :slight_smile:

Pakistan will not support resolution

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) – Pakistan will not support the U.S.-backed resolution approving war with Iraq, Prime Minister Zafarullah Khan Jamali said Monday.

He did not say if the country would vote no or abstain when the U.N. Security Council takes up the U.S.-backed resolution that gives Saddam Hussein a March 17 deadline to fully disarm.

“We will do what is best for our country,” Jamali said after a session of Parliament. **“It is not best for my country to support war against Iraq.” **

Pakistan is a non-permanent member of the Security Council and has been a strong supporter of the U.S. war on terrorism in neighboring Afghanistan.

**At the U.N., Pakistani diplomats said the comments should be interpreted as signaling an abstention and not a change in policy in any way. **

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It's not confirmed whether Pakistan would vote against resolution or abstain. No matter how would U.S reacts, this move by Jamali will certainly improve his image among Pakistanis.

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I believe it will abstain, and that alone may help defeat a US-UK resolution. Although I personally would prefer Pakistan to vote against the resolution I perfectly understand that abstaining is the best possible position in Pakistan's wider national interests.

At the moment it looks like 6 countries including Pakistan will either vote against or abstain, and 4 for for a second resolution. The other 5 (Mexico, Chile, Angola, Guinea and Cameroon) are still undecided, but the US-UK need the support of all 5 to get even the minimum 9 votes to pass the resolution without any veto. The other side only need only 1 of the 5 votes and the resolution dies even without needing a veto.

Yeah, it’s almost confirmed. Vote from Pakistan will be abstain. Good decision.

Source: Pakistan to Abstain in U.N. Vote on Iraq

Pakistan has decided to abstain in any U.N. Security Council vote that would pave the way for war against Iraq, a senior ruling party official said on Monday.

Jamali hinted at the decision while speaking to reporters earlier on Monday.

“Pakistan cannot become a party to the destruction of either the Iraqi people or the Iraqi country. It is very clear,” he said.