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over employment and corrupt management is single biggest problem of Railway, PIA, Steels Milsl and other major Institutions.

I am sure steps of shutting down trains is just to transfer the business to private transporters and get $$$$ from them. Same thing happened to KTC years ago.

You and many likes you should be sorry, you and your generation is the one who got us into this mess, had you and your generations had some balls and grey material in their head, had you and your generation been not so selfish, we might had better leadership on hand.. but yes likes of you generation need to be blamed for the mess.. i am sure someday this will come back and bite you right in your face... and even then i am sure you will consider others responsible for the loss, although it would be just a reaction of your on doings...

I am really sorry what my generation and my seniors and juniors done with Pakistan. I am also sorry for mismanagement of present PPP government but I am also sorry for your poor wisdom.
Perhaps you are not able to understand the realities.
When we point out to real problem , you starts foolish criticism.
Who can say there is real PPP government in Pakistan.
Who can say PML N is ruling Punjab.
The real government is hidden now but most of the time they are on top openly,
Not only ruling, taken all business in their hand.
ie, transport, education, real estate, road taxes, road building and many more.
They are managing mafias like land mafias , MQM and don't forget in past Taliban also.
They manage internal and external affairs.
And their qualification is only intermediate.

This is most idiotic thing i have ever heard.. if these PPP and PML govt as so weak then what the hell they are doing in the govt.. stop using this term of HIDDEN GOVT. and face the reality which is nothing more but Wrath of Allah on us for our character and misdoings...

What the hell they are doing in Govt then??? Making billions through corruption??? is this what they have got the mandate for??? the hidden govt doesn't mind their corruption and they are happy with it!!! Give me a break.. only ignorant would fall for this...

This reminds me of a person i met in some village Gujrat, he was commenting on DOUBLE SHAH and was saying that he is agent of Agencies and agencies have him planted here to accomplish some tasks... when i asked that why would agencies would do that... he said, thats what our local political leader is saying... no need to mention that the worker was from PPP and his so-called leader was none other than Zardari.... ( this does not mean that NS is saint, it is only matter of time when he gets into power and may break the records of PPP's corruption)

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I don't think myself fit for this type of discussion.
Carry on with your self diagnosed problems.

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^^ yes you are only fit for praising your GODS and the newest of them is Bilawal urf Billy

you are asking someone to stay on topic, when you yourself went off topic first, whining about the "them" lolz!

and by the way, what we deserve, care to explain?

good one, time and time again, you talk about altaf's "abilities" and "fitness" now you started talking about your own "fitness", actually you are the one doing "self diagnosis" when you say you are not "fit" (though its true)

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Investigating the scam: Committee exonerated Bilour but chief convinced otherwise – The Express Tribune

A Cabinet committee has exonerated Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmed Bilour of financial corruption charges but the head of the committee is convinced that Bilour is guilty of fraud.

The federal minister is accused of mass irregularities and gross violation of rules and procedures in purchase of 75 locomotives from a Chinese firm under an agreement, worth $115 million, signed in 2009.

“I don’t know how the Cabinet committee formed its opinion to acquit the railways minister,” Sheikh Waqas Akram, a state minister in the federal cabinet and chairman of the committee, told The Express Tribune.

“Bilour made a confessional statement before the committee that he had violated the rules and procedures in the deal,” he said. “I will write a 5-page dissenting note against the cabinet committee’s judgment that vindicated the minister,” he said, adding that he is convinced that Bilour is responsible for the ‘plunder.’

“There is no doubt that Bilour is fully responsible for the financial corruption,” he said.

**Bilour’s defence
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Bilour has rejected the allegations against him.

The railways minister told The Express Tribune that the Federal Investigation Agency had interrogated him for corruption charges. The agency not only absolved him of the charges, but also wrote a comprehensive report in his favour, he had said.

The committee’s report is yet to be presented before the federal cabinet.

“The committee is waiting for my dissenting note,” Akram said. The committee chairman also claimed that he was personally approached by Asfandyar Wali Khan, chief of Awami National Party (ANP), who asked him to forgive Bilour.

“Asfandyar tried his best to convince me to write a favourable report for Bilour who is a top leader of the ANP.” Public relations officer of the railways minister, Zulfiqar Toru, however, rejected Waqas’s claim that Asfandyar had asked him to be lenient to Bilour.

**Previous admissions
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**Earlier, PR chairman Javed Ahmed had conceded before a two-member Supreme Court bench in November 2011 that rules and regulations were violated in purchase of 75 locomotives.
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The chairman had submitted a detailed report before Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry and Justice Mian Shakirullah Jan who were hearing a suo motu case about non-payment of salaries and pension to employees and workers of PR.

Former railways minister Shaikh Rashid Ahmed, who was allowed by the SC to become a party in the case, had also told the court that rules and regulations were relaxed on the intervention of a top personality of the country for purchase of 75 locomotives.

The Cabinet committee was constituted by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani on reports that the railways minister was responsible for huge financial losses to his ministry.

The committee, comprising federal ministers Rehman Malik and Manzoor Wattoo, had charge-sheeted Bilour with seven allegations in procurement of 75 locomotives.

Published in The Express Tribune, March 30[SUP]th[/SUP], 2012.

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Scrap scandal: Railway operations head arrested – The Express Tribune

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You can never expose those who are attacking on Railway with 'War tactics'

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what do you mean?

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It is an attempt to take railway in their hand .
They have used most of their areas for housing and other businesses . Now looking at this biggest property of Pakistan .

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Never in the history of Railways, the highest ranking officer ever arrested and humiliated. Saeed Akhtar by profession is civil engineer graduated from Lahore Engineering College and MBA from LUMS and recruited during Zia-ul-Haq era. rishwat aadmi ko na is dunya main zalil o khowar karti hay balke akherat main bhi, this should be down loaded in their brains by all corrupts in Pakistan.

Railways GM held on charges of misappropriation | Newspaper | DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: Railways General Manager Saeed Akhtar was arrested by the National Accountability Bureau (NAB) on Thursday on charges of misappropriation.

A spokesman for the bureau which has set up a special cell to investigate several corruption cases concerning the railways confirmed the arrest. According to sources, Mr Akhtar was arrested when he left his office in Pak Secretariat. They said some leaders of parties in the ruling coalition and senior military officers were also involved in the cases.

However, NAB is reported to be considering to close the cases against the politicians and prepare references against bureaucrats.
NAB officials said the bureau had ended investigation into the loss caused by the award of a contract for scrap.

They said one of the accused in a scam, former railways secretary Samiul Haq Khilji, was out of the country and Interpol’s help would be sought for his arrest.

The department’s Chief Controller (Stores), Khalid Mohiuddin, is also in NAB’s custody.
The bureau acquired the record relating to the scams from the Federal Investigation Agency which had been earlier assigned to look into the cases.

“Investigation related to Pakistan Railways has been expedited and officials concerned are being summoned almost every day to NAB’s Lahore headquarters,” an official said.

The cases include the sale of scrap worth millions of rupees at throwaway prices and purchase of items for 69 locomotives.

The scrap deal was finalised when Mr Khilji was secretary, railways.
A
nother case pertains to allotment of railways land for setting up the Royal Palm club in Lahore.
A case about recent procurements for stores is also likely to be referred to the bureau.

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sharam tum ko magar nahin aati

Dunya News: Pakistan:-PR has not received allocated funds: Bilour…

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The department’s Chief Controller (Stores), Khalid Mohiuddin, is also in NAB’s custody.
The bureau acquired the record relating to the scams from the Federal Investigation Agency which had been earlier assigned to look into the cases.
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As far I remember this guy is son of Ghulam Mohiuddin Khan (G. M. Khan) a former CCM, the highest official of commercial branch with reputation of being respectful officer of the railway. It is a shame that he has to face this disgrace (If he is still alive).

Here in this forum only Zardari or Ns are being highlited as corrupt and major reason for corruption. Unfortunately pakistan ke tamam shurafa aor ghair shurafa is dorh main shamil hain.

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Railways ko baap ki jageer samajhtay hain sahib?

It is not targeting Zardari and NS that is the problem. The problem is that Zardari and NS, being in government, are supposed to reduce corruption, not increase it and that is why they are highlighted. They are the people responsible for governance, and if they are corrupt, everyone else gets are license to be corrupt. This is exactly why you need a clean top guy.

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**Why you target these two persons? Angels were not ruling since 1947? With the exception of very few, weren't they corrupt to core of thir foundation? Don't make escape goats where majority since partition of Pakistan and India had continued to be corrupt. Unless you realise this and honeslty do something, the corruption will not vanish automatically with the exit of these two gentlemen.

When you were supporting NS during Zia-ul-Haq time and after, NS was personally running scrape trains daily from Karachi to Lahore without custom checking at the port. Lahore Dry Port was created to accomodate his wish to get the customs done or not done at Lahore. In scrape all kinds of brand new machinerey were imported by him without paying the duty.

yes baap ki jaagir to samajhtay hain na.**

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There is a reason companies hire executives with relevant skills who know how to run the company affairs as CEOs to run their companies, why do you think they do that?

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  1. A corrupt person
  2. A person responsible to eliminate/reduce corruption.

If the second person is dishonest, the whole system will be dishonest. Agar itni si baat samajh nahee aati tau.....