But when same set of morons were doing same shyte against India in kashmir for last 20 years, they were called freedom fighters and were role model of many people here. They were celbrated, chanda's were collected for them.
Exactly.
By no means do I intend to gloat over the tragic event in Pak. But I have to say that the chickens have come home to roost.
Well....Mr Rolling Eyes....even your President-cum-General has conceded that OBL "may" be in the border region. Since the security situation is going downhill with every passing day, wouldn't it make sense to see what's been cooking in that region (and what better than have the Americans do that).
But of course all this wouldn't make too much sense to you....you seem to be wearing your Islamic hat too tight.
"may be" and "is" has different meanings. I don't know how can US make such bold claims considering they are having difficulties in eastern and southern parts of afghanistan. I doubt bin ladeen is alive, since he needed dialysis [in mountains?]. It is just a boogey the Weapons of Mass Destr*a*ction in Iraq.
sohrab goth operation? Is it one of those "anti-mqm operations" of the nineties?
Nope, it was a stage-drama organized by govt in Karachi when Sohrab Goth was like Darra (an arm depot, arm/weapons for sale/trade etc.), gov't announced that it will operate against the criminals and overnight sohrab goth was empty and govt "invaded" Sohrab goth and "cleansed" it.
By no means do I intend to gloat over the tragic event in Pak. But I have to say that the chickens have come home to roost.
Well, what you sow is what you reap. Pakistan army+CIA trained people to fight against an "army" and thats exactly what they are doing now... too bad Kashmir front was closed due to external pressure otherwise "chicken" would still be on the other side of the fence.
Yeah, but that doesnt resolve the problem of there being Taliban and the the parallel state.
The question is, how to disarm the Taliban and destroy that parallel state...
Oh you cannot. This is one beast you cannot kill. Especially when you have jihad inclined ISI/army/govt. officials, not to mention the vast numbers of madaris where the Baabs of Jihad are being taught along with other subjects.
so do you think Pakistan would be able to justify militants operating openly from inside Pakistan with KNOWN locations to launch attacks in Afghanistan?
You say its not our war, allowing these bases in Pak MAKES it our war, and MAKES us the aggressors against the current govts of Iraq and Afghanistan.
For the safety and the security of our own citizens we would HAVE to go down this path. Wasn't "Sab se pehle Pakistan" and "Pehle apna ghar" our moto, under which we dumped are muslim brothers and former allies?
It means teh people of Pakistan have no moral integrity and have no qualms about the consequence that the people of FATA will surely suffer if this kind of step is taken. And BTW pakis are already bombing them.
You will notice the same sentiment amongst all the degenerates and non-muslims. After all, out of all this blood-shed, they are the only ones to benefit.
Right, MQM is prime example of that, taking over reigns of country every decade, pardoning criminals, negotiating with criminals… yes army got the high moral ground :k:
For the safety and the security of our own citizens we would HAVE to go down this path. Wasn't "Sab se pehle Pakistan" and "Pehle apna ghar" our moto, under which we dumped are muslim brothers and former allies?
How do you know our citizens are more secure if we allow attacks into Afghanistan and Iraq from known bases in our territory? How do you know we (or those areas) wont be carpet bombed into oblivion by the US?
Irregardless of corruption, Pakistan faces a life and death struggle agaisnt Islamic militants
Don't you think they Pakistan army is a part of the problem.....they are the creators of the problem and lack real will to solve the problem....it's the biggest excuse for them to remain in power and they do not have the resolve to take the country out of this mess>>>
I do understand your pariotism my friend, but have a look at the long history of our our army's adventurism...and lust for power.
U think I am against army?? Mush is driving country into dengrious situation.
Lal masjid situation could be handled lot better.
People are mad about fahashi imposed on them.
I have lived in army camps I know how honest/hardworking our troops are.
But we do have ill willed ruler now. I know for sure If ha hadn’t taken over Govt. and had remained army cheif he would be still in love with taliban.
Mush does have some serious back bone too.. even american call him not manage able at times.
But in todays date he has chosen destruction of pakistan as a country and as a society.
I mean people we always loved are being called extremists now are being bombed. I mean what for???
And yes there were hardly any suicide bombing in pakistan before LAL masjid.
Not every country can be run like USA.
Trust I love pakistan and army as much as you do… but things are not going into right direction.
Don't you think they Pakistan army is a part of the problem.....they are the creators of the problem and lack real will to solve the problem....it's the biggest excuse for them to remain in power and they do not have the resolve to take the country out of this mess>>>
I do understand your pariotism my friend, but have a look at the long history of our our army's adventurism...and lust for power.
So you really think if the army steps down that all the militancy is going to be resolved on its own?
The militancy is going to be even more embolden to attack civilian leadership and thus forcing the civilian governments to make alliances with hard-line religious parties to implement draconian laws
the only thing which has kept militancy in check is the Army