I mean historically. I think Pakistan has better record in ODI but India has been a good side as well, specially in Tests.
So can anyone provide the statistics of both countries in ODI and Tests, overall as well as against each other.
I know I am bored here and want to spice up KK. Its quiet here.
OK, I got a hand on gurustats.....here we go:
ALL TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
Pakistan 297 91 74 132 0 55.15
India 367 74 122 170 1 37.56
HOME TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
Pakistan 133 49 18 66 0 73.13
India 192 56 43 92 1 56.00
AWAY TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
Pakistan 158 39 53 66 0 42.39
India 175 18 79 78 0 18.55
PAKISTAN vs India
Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied
47 9 5 33 0
Ahhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!
What is this kind of a question ..... mean for god sake stop this ...... some will come up with stats (which proves pak have a better record than India) and other will argue the current form ..... since we've some very passionate followers of both sides (i count myself to this lot) it'll end up in:
1st. bashing each others national side (e. g. how they were spanked on this and that occasion)
2nd. since some players were outstanding in each sides wins so the bashing will continue to the point that this "bashing each others outstanding players" ends up into personal attacks like "go look back, get ur facts straight, the attempt to prove each other wrong with the aid of stats etc. etc. "
3rd. and final step will be "the mod comes into play" .... since ppl step over the barrier of rules and therefore from starting to delete some posts it will end up in locking the thread
U really wanna this ?????
If ur reply is yes then go back and satisfy urself with the records about such thread
Nothing personall yar but it always ends up like this
My pleasure 
P W L T D W/L HS LS MC LC BatAv BowAv R/6b C/6b
297 91 74 0 132 **1.23** 708 53 790 53 32.2 31.3 2.80 2.81
P W L T D W/L HS LS MC LC BatAv BowAv R/6b C/6b
367 74 122 1 170 **0.61** 676 42 952 82 32.0 35.0 2.73 2.69
Played = 47
India Win = 5
Pakistan Win = 9
P W L T NR % HS LS MC LC BatAv BowAv R/6b C/6b
546 255 265 3 23 **49%** 376 54 359 76 30.6 30.1 4.70 4.67
P W L T NR % HS LS MC LC BatAv BowAv R/6b C/6b
571 304 249 6 12 **55%** 371 43 363 64 29.6 27.5 4.60 4.53
Played = 86
Pak Win = 52
Ind Win = 30
ALL TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
Australia 644 289 174 179 2 62.15
West Indies 401 147 115 138 1 55.89
**Pakistan 297 91 74 132 0 55.15**
England 813 277 238 298 0 53.78
South Africa 281 90 101 90 0 47.12
Sri Lanka 133 32 52 49 0 38.09
**India 367 74 122 170 1 37.56**
New Zealand 305 53 119 133 0 30.81
Zimbabwe 71 7 40 24 0 14.89
Bangladesh 26 0 25 1 0 0.00
TOTAL 1669 1060 1060 607 2
HOME TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
**Pakistan 133 49 18 66 0 73.13**
West Indies 180 71 34 75 0 67.61
Australia 332 180 86 65 1 67.41
England 412 154 100 158 0 60.62
Sri Lanka 65 24 17 24 0 58.53
**India 192 56 43 92 1 56.00**
South Africa 153 58 50 45 0 53.70
New Zealand 146 33 48 65 0 40.74
Zimbabwe 36 5 16 15 0 23.80
Bangladesh 11 0 10 1 0 0.00
TOTAL 1660 630 422 606 2
AWAY TESTS
Team Tests Won Lost Drawn Tied Win %
Australia 306 104 88 113 1 53.88
West Indies 219 76 79 63 1 48.71
England 401 123 138 140 0 47.12
**Pakistan 158 39 53 66 0 42.39**
South Africa 125 32 49 44 0 39.50
New Zealand 159 20 71 68 0 21.97
Sri Lanka 67 8 34 25 0 19.04
**India 175 18 79 78 0 18.55**
Zimbabwe 35 2 24 9 0 7.69
Bangladesh 15 0 15 0 0 0.00
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*Originally posted by Zero_one: *
Ahhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!!
What is this kind of a question ..... mean for god sake stop this ...... some will come up with stats (which proves pak have a better record than India) and other will argue the current form ..... since we've some very passionate followers of both sides (i count myself to this lot) it'll end up in:
1st. bashing each others national side (e. g. how they were spanked on this and that occasion)
2nd. since some players were outstanding in each sides wins so the bashing will continue to the point that this "bashing each others outstanding players" ends up into personal attacks like "go look back, get ur facts straight, the attempt to prove each other wrong with the aid of stats etc. etc. "
3rd. and final step will be "the mod comes into play" .... since ppl step over the barrier of rules and therefore from starting to delete some posts it will end up in locking the thread
U really wanna this ?????
If ur reply is yes then go back and satisfy urself with the records about such thread
Nothing personall yar but it always ends up like this
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Thanks Umair :)
Zero_one_two_three.......bhai there is no harm to discuss arch-rivals performance in the past and comparing their current forms. Its cricket, a game.
i am kinda surprised at our test record. all this time i thought pak was a mediocre team at best in test arena. nice to see that we have a above average record.
by the way, whats the diff between drawn and tied. aren't they the same.
^^ at last ball of the match if both teams have equalized the score with same number of wickets then its a tie.
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*Originally posted by smooth_guy: *
^^ at last ball of the match if both teams have equalized the score with same number of wickets then its a tie.
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thanks man.
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*Originally posted by smooth_guy: *
Thanks Umair :)
Zero_one_two_three.......bhai there is no harm to discuss arch-rivals performance in the past and comparing their current forms. Its cricket, a game.
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now tell me one thing ...... how the heck do u DISCUSS facts as there will be no change after th discussion ..... i thought u can DISCUSS matters which r not always clear as a fact e. g. a LBW-decision but once a batsmen is BOWLED on a legal delivery (which is a fact) how do u discuss that ????? Praise would the right word for the bowler ..... i hope u got the point
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*Originally posted by Zero_one: *
now tell me one thing ...... how the heck do u DISCUSS facts as there will be no change after th discussion ..... i thought u can DISCUSS matters which r not always clear as a fact e. g. a LBW-decision but once a batsmen is BOWLED on a legal delivery (which is a fact) how do u discuss that ????? *Praise would the right word for the bowler *..... i hope u got the point
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Well then we are praising our countrymen. :)
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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
Well then we are praising our countrymen. :)
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well then my opinion why Pakistan has a better record than India is simply the fact that Pakistan had a more aggressive approach maybe due it's dominant fast bowling dept.
India is obviously the better team.
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*Originally posted by Zero_one: *
well then my opinion why Pakistan has a better record than India is simply the fact that Pakistan had a more aggressive approach maybe due it's dominant fast bowling dept.
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now this is called discussion.....dear.
U must be desperatly bored … no offensive meant 
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*Originally posted by Zero_one: *
well then my opinion why Pakistan has a better record than India is simply the fact that Pakistan had a more aggressive approach maybe due it's dominant fast bowling dept.
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What about the batsmen?
You can't win matches without your batsmen, and India have plenty of world class batsmen and aggressive batsman.
The simple truth is, Pakistan has always been better then India, and the Indian team is highly overrated by their own media.
bus ji kiya karein 
btw, i thought india/pak are very close when it comes to the…well atleast in Test cricket. But I am surprized to see these stats myself.
Atleast we should know where we stand in the No. 1 game in sub-continent. 
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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
What about the batsmen?
You can't win matches without your batsmen, and India have plenty of world class batsmen and aggressive batsman.
The simple truth is, Pakistan has always been better then India, and the Indian team is highly overrated by their own media.
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India have at the moment only one aggressive batsman in their ranks who regardless how high the target is plays his shots with little risk and high reliability ...... u all know whom i mean ..... but Pak have/had bowlers which went after wicket rather than defensive run saving approach ......
someone (i don't know the name yet) said about the `92 WC winning team that the better lost and the aggressive team won it
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*Originally posted by UMAIR316: *
What about the batsmen?
You can't win matches without your batsmen, and India have plenty of world class batsmen and aggressive batsman.
The simple truth is, Pakistan has always been better then India, and the Indian team is highly overrated by their own media.
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Umair, I would agree with you on this point. But India's current team looks slightly better than ours, with those 5 steelmen in the top batting order. It can further improve if Zahreer, Nehra and Patel/Phattan groom up with time.
On the other hand, Pakistan has no worries about the pace attack, they just emerge every now and than :) Alhamdollillah. On the batting side, its always been a place where we need improvement. But with recent findings like Taufeeq, Farhat and Hameed, we also have a bright future ahead.
So let see who improves more in next couple of years. The series between two countries will also be very interesting as both teams are pretty much balanced these days.
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*Originally posted by Zero_one: *
India have at the moment only one aggressive batsman in their ranks who regardless how high the target is plays his shots with little risk and high reliability ...... u all know whom i mean ..... but Pak have/had bowlers which went after wicket rather than defensive run saving approach ......
someone (i don't know the name yet) said about the `92 WC winning team that the better lost and the aggressive team won it
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If you look at the current Pakistani batting order, there is hardly an agressiveness in the top order.
Even for the past couple years, the only permanent batsman coming to mind who was agressive was Afridi.
India has many agressive batsman in their team,
Tendulkar, Ganguly, Sehwag, Laxman, Yuvraj, and India has always had a reputation of good spinners, and with turning wickets @ home, their home record should be much higher then Pakistan.
While Pakistan's specialty has been fast bowlers on flat Paki tracks, but still we have the best record @ home while teams like Aus, WI, SAF, Eng have produced quality fast bowlers with lively track but their home record is way behind Pak.
Its just not the bowlers game.