PAKISTAN: Officials lash back at U.S., Mullen

Good. Tell them to go to hell.

PAKISTAN: Officials lash back at U.S., Mullen

REPORTING FROM ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN — Pakistan is digging in its heels following Washington’s explosive allegations that the South Asia nation’s intelligence agency assisted a leading Afghan Taliban group in recent attacks on U.S. targets in Afghanistan, responding with vehement denials and warnings that it could jettison America as an ally if such accusations continued.

The U.S. is hoping that the blunt charge of collusion between Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, agency and the Haqqani network made by Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, before Congress on Thursday will trigger a shift in Islamabad’s policy toward extremist groups.

Speaking before the Senate Armed Services Committee, Mullen called the Haqqani group “a veritable arm of the ISI” and said the agency helped the militants during attacks on the U.S. Embassy in Kabul on Sept. 13 as well as a truck bomb blast in Wardak province two days earlier that injured 77 American troops.

Reacting to Mullen’s charges, Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar cautioned that if the U.S. continued airing such allegations, “you could lose an ally."

“You cannot afford to alienate Pakistan, you cannot afford to alienate the Pakistani people,” Khar said, speaking to a Pakistani television channel from New York on Thursday. “If you are choosing to do so and if they are choosing to do so, it will be at their [the Americans’] own cost.”

In Karachi, Prime Minister Yusaf Raza Gilani told reporters that the onus was on Washington to pull back and begin mending frayed relations between the two countries.

“They can’t live with us — they can’t live without us,” Gilani said. “So, I would say to them that if they can’t live without us, they should increase contacts with us to remove misunderstandings.”

Khar and Gilani joined a chorus of Pakistani officials who tersely rejected the allegations and challenged the U.S. to supplyevidence of links between the country’s intelligence community and the Haqqani group, regarded by Washington as one of the biggest obstacles to bringing a peaceful end to 10 years of war against Taliban insurgents in Afghanistan.

Estimated to number more than 10,000 fighters, the Haqqani network uses Pakistan’s North Waziristan tribal region along the Afghan border from which to launch suicide bombings, commando-style assaults and other terror strikes on U.S., NATO and Afghan forces in eastern Afghanistan and in the capital, Kabul. The group does not normally carry out attacks against targets inside Pakistan.

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US administration and forces have to blame someone for their failure and miscalculations. They paid Pakistan to fight the war against Russia , they could pay someone else to fight war against Taliban , but they chose to get engaged directly I fail to understand why. The kind of money they spent on war in Afghanistan for that money they could fight 5 wars if it was a proxy war like war against Russia in Afghanistan in 80s.

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^ they had to engage their own men who were doing nothing as well as they had to show all of the "shock and awe" weaponry to sell their arms/ammunition to rest of the world.

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They should actually call US ambassador and protest stronglyGen Kayani rebuffs US allegations](http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/23/gen-kayani-rebuffs-us-allegations.html)
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s powerful military responded to accusations from the United States that its spy service was tied to a violent militant faction of the Afghan insurgency as “very unfortunate and not based on facts.”

“While taking note of the recent statements made by Admiral Mullen, chairman joint chief of staff United States, Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, termed these as very unfortunate and not based on facts,” the military said in a statement released on Friday night in Rawalpindi.

He said that the allegations are especially disturbing in view of a rather constructive meeting with Admiral Mullen in Spain.

“On the specific question of contacts with Haqqanis, the (chief of army staff) said that Admiral Mullen knows fully well which all countries are in contact with the Haqqanis. Singling out Pakistan is neither fair nor productive.”

Mullen, speaking in Senate testimony on Thursday, alleged Haqqani operatives launched an attack last week on the US embassy in Kabul with the support of Pakistan’s military intelligence

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”They can’t live with us. They can’t live without us,” Gilani told reporters in Karachi.
”So, I would say to them that if they can’t live without us, they should increase contacts with us to remove misunderstandings.” PM GILANI! :smiley:

http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/23/us-can’t-live-with-or-without-us-says-pm.html

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I have always wondered why westerners use the term “powerful” whenever they talk about ISI or Pak army…no idea !!!

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because they know all the power lies with the military. Isn't that true?

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**“Admiral Mullen knows fully well which countries are in contact with the Haqqanis. Singling out Pakistan is neither fair nor productive,” the army chief said.

**http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/24/mullens-statement-not-based-on-facts-kayani-several-countries-in-touch-with-haqqanis.html

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But the big ticket items aren't even in use in afghanistan, unless you count the MRAPs as big ticket. I think it was first done to show US can do whatever it wants like take revenge, but now the military industrial complex is benefiting by inflated military budgets and more money in the coffers of contractors.

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they wanted to show americans that they care for the lives of people died in 9/11 more than anything , they had pledged vengeance against al qayada terror network which finally made it's headquarter in afghanistan after being hunted allover the world . another cause for involvement of america was that they suspected that muslims alone could not be trusted for hunting osama bin laden and his network which finally came to be true because osama was finally tracked down in pakistan possibly known to i.s.i.that he was living there ,

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they fear you that is why they call powerful.

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http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/24/us-must-not-cross-red-lines-says-fm-khar.html

:k:

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US is so evil, they can go to any lengths to please their citizens!! biggest hypocrites on the planet!

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At least they please their citizens. Pakistan's Leaders and Army Top Brass just dont give a hoot about their own citizens. So in that sense at least the Americans are better than us.

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Sadly PM Gilani is just a puppet whose statements do not matter. He probably has a very limited role in all of this. He has no real power.

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They will not dare. Our rich officials, bureaucrats, polticians, military leader have too much invested in the West to tell them to go to hell.

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I have only to share a news.
Gen Athar Abbas of ISPR admitted links between Haqqani net work and ISI, but he clerified that these normal links like any group and any intelligence agency which is just normal.
Update;

Own your mess, Pakistan tells UShttp://cache.pakistantoday.com.pk/2011/09/1546-469x213.jpg
In a loud and clear message that Pakistan’s national interest will guide its policy, Islamabad on Saturday unambiguously warned Washington against any hot pursuit inside its territory or making the country a scapegoat for the US failure in Afghanistan. With Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani strongly rejecting the US assertions of complicity with the Haqqanis and of Pakistan launching a proxy war, Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar also hit out at the US, warning it against crossing the “red-lines” and making it a “scapegoat” for failed objectives (in Afghanistan). “We have established red-lines with them (the US) … those red-lines have to be accepted and followed by every country … if any established rules of engagement are