Pakistan : now and before

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how many of you think, Pakistan actually managed and governed well now compared to last government overall

I think baring 2007, rest of the years were well managed in all sectors, economy was good. with telco, media, banking, finance, employment, growth, real estate, stock exchange, GDP

even we consider Q - league is bunch of saja gamas ! in areas where they werent capable they managed to put together team of professionals to govern the country rather well.

I think PPP has lost all its past values, under Bhutto it was best, under BB it was still coping well, but under Zardari and cronies it cant be said.

any issue, govt minister seem to have no clue what to say or do!

I am not talking about acheivments here, I am asking about basic leadership and effective government!

arent we worse off than our all Past governments even if not the recent past???

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what are you talking? Which Government are you talking of? Are you talking of these rapists, murderers, corrupt? In what did we well? Please list me one achievement which you are proud of in the last 50 years and tell us why you are proud!

Personally, the greatest achievement Pakistan made was declaring Ahmadies Non-Muslim!

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The current govt is more accountable to the people than the dictator.

The media is free, and people are not 'disapperaing'.

It is is not perfect, especially with the massive economic and terrorism problems left by the Mush govt, and the CJ issue was a disappointment.

But having a govt chosen by the people, and one that can be thrown out by the people is much better than a no-hope, corrupt dictator.

Shahbaz Sharif's daughter gets bakery sweeper beaten
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The current Govt hasnt even enjoyed an year in power yet. The current problems that the country is facing is because of the previous Govt, no matter how good or bad they performed. Considering the mess, the current Gov in my opinion has done a better job than what I expected, but still alot needs to be done.

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You pple supporting the current goverment. have u even been to pakistan recently? My mum had to come back 2 weeks earlier than planed because of the load shedding! iT WAS NEVER SOO BAD SHE SAYS! Zardari is doing Ghadari with pakistanis! LOL

Timepass - October 2012
Timepass - October 2012
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Dont blame Zardari for all the load shedding. There was load shedding even before Zardari came to power.

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Pakistan is plagued with lots of problems at the moment.
I just wana ask two questions.....off topic yes....!!!

How in a country where gas is produced (think Sui gas) do we run out of gas?
What is Zardari doing pinning medals on that Amreeki?

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Musharraf era was good for "professionals" esp banking and engineering (telecom), there was investment made in infrastructures (but that was probably Mushy's own initiative) but other than that it was misery all over for poor people, not-so-professionals, rapid rise in insecurity throughout the country.

Current government has inherited many problems from previous regime but the issue is they are not doing anything to fix them. Seems like they are more interested in making the boss (Zardari) happy by renaming everything to "Benazir" this and that. Gas is disappearing, petrol is not available many times because of loadshedding. Many analysts have stated that if government pays its dues to IPPs loadshedding will be much lower but government is busy coming up with plans of distributing money to its own people.

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Pakistan did make progess during Musharraf's era, but to compare it with this government it needs to complete its term, which I do not think it will for two reasons:

  1. Zardari does not seem to be running the party rather looks like a person who has hijacked it. That is why there is political instability despite Zardari being an elected President.

  2. This government is easily black-mailed and the reason is that they are very poor at handling International issues. Musharraf's government did know how to handle the terrorism issue and speak clearly and strongly about it.

Amnay Samnay: TLK & NIK
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Blindly wagging the tail and saying yes to every order does not mean they were good at handling international mess.

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I agree, thats the case near to reality on the ground. load shedding will not go away and will become worst and worst cause it required the actual work done not lip service, previous govt was delayed in acting on dams, current one still blamming previous on every issue.

we can only solve if own the problem and then solve it.

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I think from 1999 - 2006 there was soom good improvements made :-

  1. road system was vastly improved. many existing roads were improved around the country and many new made ie the Mekran Coatsal Highway

  2. a growth in jobs esp telecoms, finance, services, health and beauty, tourism.....more and more pakistanis were going back to pakistan after being educated abroad and finding jobs there.

  3. awareness of social issues and more respect for minorities overall.

  4. thereappears to be a growth in shcools and other educational institutions - although i do not know if the poor have benfitted from this.

  5. a growth in hospitals and other health facilities -once again im not sur eif the poor have benefitted form this too.

  6. the beautification of certain areas of karachi - i think karachi has benefitted alot over the last 5 years. there is an improvement how it looks and efforts have been made for traffic management (not allareas have benfitted though and some "roads" have failed) but a big improvement .....other cities and areas have benefitted too......the q league and other mush's puppets have done quite a bit for where they have been elected from........rubbish bins, hand dryers at airports, planting of trees in urban areas, beauty spots within cities and towns, monuments in urban areas....

i hope whoever is in charge can only UP the scale of improvements....2007 and 2008 have been rough and dificult years fro pakistan but im positive things can move on insha allah!

on the flipside the human rights situation was worse under musharaf as alot of people were disappeared....

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I was in Pakistan recently and yes the electricty loadshedding is bad, gas loadshedding (or low pressure) is common and there was surprisingly a petrol and CNG shortage too. In summary, triple whammy! :-) But its unfair to blame everything on a government that is not even in for a year.

The current government, though, has so far done an abysmal job in even trying to appear remotely interested in solving these problems in a meaningful way. There is even a lack of appetite to acknowledge the problems facing the common man, let alone solve them. Lahore was going through a whole week of petrol and CNG shortage (petrol pumps were resembling parking lots) before the President made a simple newspaper statement asking the relevant authorities to look at whats going on. Government's job, as one commentator sarcastically wrote, seemed more like media to tell people what problems they are facing and which parts of the country are facing riots and protests, rather than actually solving the problems or placate the people.

There seemed a unanimous view amongst all the Pakistanis I talked to (very unscientific and unempirical statistic), that Zardari has no interest in governing the country, and is merely there to make as much money as quickly as possible. Views were consistent from Karachi to Lahore. I am sure there are a few people in Islamabad who like Zardari. I didn't get to meet them.

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I agree that everything can't be blamed on current government but they should get fair share in the blame, many articles have indicated that the load-shedding is not because we don't have enough capacity but a lot has to do with IPP bils not getting paid by government. but then as you said about intentions of Zardari why should money be paid to IPPs :D

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A democratic govt no matter how bad it is in the short term, is imminently better for the country in the long term.\
Ofcourse, much of the problems faced today are due to the mismanagement of the previous "govt."
Its up to this govt to improve things, and they should be given time, but if they dont, then unlike the dictatorship, they will be voted out of power.

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As for Zardari, the PPP veterans should be ashamed of themselves. Here is someone with virtually no experience, and they give the highest position in the country without a single protest. There are many many worthy candidates, and yet this is the best they could come up with..
Pretty pathetic.

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pakistanis live in air castles. with such type of people country can not bcome progressive