well there are many rumours going on about a threat to pakistani nuclear intallations but there is some credibal information in this matter too .i saw a programme on fox news the other day where the invitees the terrorism experts were clearly waging a anti pakistan and anti muslim barage of propaganda .pakistans biggest asset today is its nuclear arsenal and the respect its getting todays is because of its nuclear capability .the west does not want to antagonize pakistan because they fear that it pakistan its labled a terrorist state then pakistan will join the gang of iran iraq syria sudan and lebanon and pakistan armed with a nuclear power can be amjor threat to usa hegamony
so i think pakistan must be extra carefull of its nuclear assets .and a nuclear pakistan is not only in the interest of pakistanis but also the entire muslim world
Its safe and scattred/hidden all over the place.
US Plan to Take Out Pakistan Nukes
WASHINGTON: Beyond the immediate objective of decimating Osama Bin Laden and his al-Qaeda and toppling the Taliban regime in Afghanistan, the US has some long-term collateral targets in the region: Pakistan's nukes and spooks.
While the bombing campaign against the Taliban is making headlines, the Bush administration is quietly moving behind the scenes to try and ensure it has some kind of handle on Pakistan's nuclear assets. Informed sources say Pakistan has rejected Washington's offer --made over the last month -- of enhancing the safety and security measures of its nuclear force, believing it will constitute an intrusive inspection of its weapons program.
In turn, Islamabad has assured the US that it has effectively put its command and control system in place. But the assertion is being taken with a fistful of salt
Proliferation experts within and outside the administration are increasingly invoking the nightmare scenario of the nuclear weapons falling into the hands of a fundamentalist jehadi regime that could overthrow the Musharraf rule.
The fears have been aggravated by the unending street protests now roiling Pakistan and polls showing that contrary to Musharraf's claim that 80 per cent of the people back him, 80 per cent actually oppose his support to the US.
"The US campaign against terrorism in neighboring Afghanistan is likely to add considerable strain on Pakistan's chain of command... Internal stresses within Pakistan could have dire consequences for the entire region," says Stimson Center's Michael Krepon, a South Asia expert who is advocating supply of US nuclear safety instruments to both Pakistan and India.
US officials are, however, less concerned about India's nuclear program, rooted as it is in institutional strength and a no-first-use policy. Although it is politic in the administration to talk about nuclear tensions in the region involving both India and Pakistan, the real worry now is the latter -- and the consequences of the bomb falling into the hands of extremists. It is a thought that was on the edge of US consciousness for a long time but has now moved sharply to the forefront. Disclosures and comments by bin Laden and his cohorts that they were aiming to get their hands on the nukes have given the administration the willies.
Some experts are now pushing for a back-up plan that includes deployment of US forces to remove Pakistan's nuclear weapons should a jehadi regime take over.
Unless Pakistan agrees to accept international help to secure its nuclear program "the US should begin to work immediately on contingency plans (that) include the ability to rapidly deploy forces to Pakistan to find and regain control of any lost nuclear materials and, only as a last option in a crisis, remove them from Pakistan to a secure location," says John Wolfsthal, a non-proliferation expert with the Carnegie Endowment.
While Pakistan's nuclear assets constitute one set of worries, the US is also concerned about the ISI, Pakistan's premier spook agency which is coming under increasing scrutiny and muted criticism within the administration. Although the CIA has had strong institutional ties with the ISI in the past, the Pakistani outfit has been doing its own thing over the past few years, especially in Afghanistan.
Over the past few weeks, there is a growing realisation in the intelligence community here that the ISI's links and loyalty to the Taliban, which it created and nurtured, is far stronger than support to the US war effort. According to one account, the intelligence supplied by the ISI to US forces has amounted to zilch so far. Having directed the removal of the pro-Taliban ISI chief Mahmoud Ahmed, the US is now set to oversee a purge in the ISI ranks of senior and mid-level operatives who it identifies as having sympathies with the fundamentalists.
Source: Times of India
well i hate to speculate.. but what if, general musharrafs plane blows up in the sky like zia's.. and some 'supposed' islamic fundamentalist goverment is formed by US backing.. in order to justify US and India in bombing pakistans nuke installations ?? but again pakistani authorities has been witnessing US backs turn on them for a long time and i'm sure they are aware of it.. prolly pakistan should smuggle a few nukes within indian and US borders.. as means of deterrence.. if US is capable to launch Abomb from beyond visual range.. pakistan must have something in place to retaliate.. thats if anti-muslim forces want to indulge in such misadventures..
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Originally posted by ButterFingers:
well i hate to speculate.. but what if, general musharrafs plane blows up in the sky like zia's.. and some 'supposed' islamic fundamentalist goverment is formed by US backing.. in order to justify US and India in bombing pakistans nuke installations ?? but again pakistani authorities has been witnessing US backs turn on them for a long time and i'm sure they are aware of it.. prolly pakistan should smuggle a few nukes within indian and US borders.. as means of deterrence.. if US is capable to launch Abomb from beyond visual range.. pakistan must have something in place to retaliate.. thats if anti-muslim forces want to indulge in such misadventures..
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There is a difference between nukes and nuclear installations eg.. Pinstech etc...
If US is relying on CIA to locate Pak nukes then rest easy this all is hot air baloon.
US would never attack Pak in its dreams, regardless of the type of govt in Pakistan. And the reason for that is our great friend China. Pak has exploded nukes and is obviously ahead of iran, libya, syria etc. So the million dollar question for west is if Pak could do it.... whats stopping these countries from doing so?
in my opinion, cat is out of the bag as far as nukes are concerned. If these countries dont have the means yet they will have them in a few years. Fueled greatly by ex-russian states the dream of muslim countries to be able to defend themselves with nukes has become a reality.
Next challenge for Pak is to keep an edge on its enemy in nukes. diversify its arsenal by adding chemical and biological weapons. and keep self defence as priority number one.
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*US would never attack Pak in its dreams, regardless of the type of govt in Pakistan. And the reason for that is our great friend China. Pak has exploded nukes and is *
I'm not so sure about this. I don't think the reason will be CHINA, I rather suspect it's of the Nukes we posses.
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“na maiN* momin vich masiitaa*N, na maiN* muusaa, na fir'aun!”
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Pakistan’s nuclear program is active and in safe hands.Our command structure in the military is as good as they come and regardless of who is in power,the nuclear program is controlled by our army and they are the best force in the country.
I find these wild theories - laughable.
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There will never be an extremist govt in our country, regardless of how hard the indians try to portray the situation as such.
What there will be, and always has been, is a govt that is committed to self-defence.If anyone wants to mess with Pakistan,all they need to do is bring it.We`re more than capable of defending our country and our assets.
It’s not even worth discussing actually.There arent any doubts.The nuclear program is continuously developing even further and there is no risk or threat to that or anything else in Pakistan.
Ps:Note to the Indians - keep dreaming.
Does anyone have information on the type of nuclear weapons (Uranium/Thorium-what grade) India and Pakistan possess. Also what are the developed deployment methods?
Do Pakistan/India have nuclear capable submarines?