Pakistan may get some F-16s, says PAF chief

only 18 out of 70 tho and thats not even a guarantee still

KARACHI, Sept 14: Pakistan may expect some F-16s from the US while delivery of two of the six C-130s is expected in December. This was stated by the air force chief Air Marshall Kaleem Sadat in a briefing at the Ideas 2004 exhibition of military hardware here on Tuesday.

He said that Pakistan had asked for 70 F-16s but the Americans had indicated that they might settle for 18 but that might happen after the US Presidential elections. Referring to the difficulties Pakistan had to face due to stringent political decisions by the US administration, he said that the Pakistan Air Force was looking for various options to meet its high-tech requirements.

He said that Swedish Griffin and China’s F-10 remained leading contenders. “Whichever of these aircraft is selected, it will meet our high-tech requirements,” he said.

On the American decision to stop the supply of F-16s, the air chief said that whenever he met US officials, he told them that the public opinion in Pakistan believed that the US wanted to keep Pakistan weak. “They have now realized it,” he said. Pakistan may get some F-16s, says PAF chief

finally some hope. but i think the PAF has been very smart in making alternative arrangement over the yrs like developng the new fighter etc.

Only 24% chance of actually getting it.

Now it is not that badly needed then before

dump US as a surce of weaponary .. go with europe ...

Why is Pakistan still after the F-16s when Super-7s are on their way? Shouldn't Pakistan spend all them (spare from somewhere?) billions of dollars to enhance Super-7s instead?

^ Pakistan should take whatever America is giving (logistics), Before their next mood swing.

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Why is Pakistan still after the F-16s when Super-7s are on their way? Shouldn't Pakistan spend all them (spare from somewhere?) billions of dollars to enhance Super-7s instead?
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Super 7s are good medium range fighter bombers. But they are low on number of flight hours and the weapon systems. F-16 though an aging plane, still is the work horse for the frontline offence + defense.

and the saga continues...

Maybe no f-16s.

US seeks ‘stronger’ ties with India

The first high-level visit since President Bush’s re-election
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said his country will build stronger defence ties with India.
Mr Rumsfeld was speaking in the Indian capital, Delhi, after meeting senior officials, including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

The talks were the first high-level contact since US President George W Bush’s re-election last month.

Mr Rumsfeld’s remarks came a day after India warned the US against selling F-16 fighters to arch-rival Pakistan.

“The defence relationship is a strong one and something we intend to see is further knitted together as we go forward in the months and years ahead,” he said after talks with Indian Defence Minister Pranab Mukherjee.

But he refused to be drawn into the controversy over India’s concerns about the F-16 fighter jets.

“We talked about a full range of things and I don’t think I would consider that to be a central part of the discussion at all,” Mr Rumsfeld told reporters.

At the weekend Mr Bush met Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf in Washington and discussed the sale of up to 25 F-16s - a move Delhi says would be “negative” to US-India relations.

Row over arms sales

Hours before Mr Rumsfeld’s arrival, India delivered an unmistakeable message that US arms supplies to Pakistan would sour relations between Delhi and Washington.

The message was delivered in forceful terms before the Indian parliament by Foreign Minister Natwar Singh.

The Indian message on F-16 fighters was forceful

“We have pointed out that the supply of arms to Pakistan at a time when the India-Pakistan dialogue is at a sensitive stage, would have a negative impact,” Mr Singh told the lower house.

The BBC’s Nick Bryant in Delhi says that given the regional tensions, arms deals involving America and Pakistan are always a practical as well as symbolic concern in Delhi.

India has been wary of the Bush administration’s close relationship with President Musharraf ever since he sided with Washington to oust the Taleban in Afghanistan, our correspondent adds.

The US has yet to take a decision on the sale of the F-16s. The US Congress must assess the move, along with sales of surveillance aircraft and anti-tank missiles.

Co-operation on space and nuclear technology, and missile defence were other matters on the agenda for Mr Rumsfeld’s visit.

A senior US official told the AFP agency Mr Rumsfeld would also discuss Afghanistan and Iraq and would ask for India’s help in trying to end Iran’s nuclear programme.

Mr Rumsfeld has not visited India since June 2002.

Where are these F16's then?

Re: Pakistan may get some F-16s, says PAF chief

US really dont want to give these babies to Pakistan and endanger its investments in India, and hence relations with india. US think only for itself. when they think there is no other way to please Pakistani Generals for support. they will release these F 16s.
But our generals dont bargain hard enough, they already agreed whatever US says, in this kind of scenario, Pakistan will not get it.

Re: Pakistan may get some F-16s, says PAF chief

Why should US think for anyone but itself? We should be improving health and education sector, not defence sector.

Re: Pakistan may get some F-16s, says PAF chief

Yeah, Pakistan would get em in 2050.