There are thousands of Madrassahs and hundreds of training camps in Punjab as well, but no body supported using of gunship helicopter against them.
Okay, I am fully in support of raids on all madrassas serving as militant training academies. no matter where they are.
Well done Mushe,There is no need of any religious madrisa and school in pakistan,
do the same in every city in pakistan,Just start it from islam abad,clean all these throughout in pakistan(yeh tumharay baap ki jageer hay jo dil chahta hay kro koi poochnay wala naheen hay).
Dont wory ppls cry for somedays and then everything will be fine again,keep it up you son of a *****.
Interestingly it happened during Charles visit. Coincidence or something else? And there also are reports that it was actually by US predator drones like before.
I fully support killing jihadi terrorists, but what was the true intention here?
.. With USA elections so near these kinds of raids without any evidence and wiping out the whole structures to kill would be in high demand.. it was really sad how CNN was quoting 80 terrorists killed ! how easy to mark some one terrorist without any proof or evidence.. thousands of children and women have been killed in past by these air strikes in pakistan.. pathetic
There are no terrorists in Pakistan only innocents.
Madrasa’s teach only peace not violent Jihad.
The man speaking at Pakistani funeral today saying how he would contine his Jihad against the U.S. must have been on crazy pills.
1. remove the cancer factories.
2. Similtaniously offer moderate, non-violent alternatives that directly helps the locals.
3. Build up the tribal communities and combate poverty through these moderate alternatives.
4. Enjoy the seeds you have planted as they will blossom into flowers where weeds of tumors once were. These flowers will support the trees of government who's roots will dig deeper, expand and become more stable as the tumor weeds are eradicated.
destroying the whole building is murder indeed. if anything the militants needed to be arrested and tried in a court of law. pakistanis will always be pakis as far as the west is concerned. busharraf and his army killing like this will please his superiors in the short term
USA went to War during the US Civil War because some parts of USA mostly southern USA was seperating from USA and creating their own country due to the issue of slavery...
USA fought them and united the country...
We need to do the same...
We risk seperation of NWFP because these brain washed idiots are harboring foreign terrorists who have turned them into their personal body guards as they wage a jihad against USA
Pakistan needs to asert full government control over these areas
We risk seperation of NWFP because these brain washed idiots are harboring foreign terrorists who have turned them into their personal body guards as they wage a jihad against USA
Pakistan needs to asert full government control over these areas
The time of FATA is at an end.
This is not the 1800's, inaccurate comparison.
As long as Mush gets a pat on the back from Bush and stays in power, he doesn't care how many people get blown apart
We risk seperation of NWFP because these brain washed idiots are harboring foreign terrorists who have turned them into their personal body guards as they wage a jihad against USA
Pakistan needs to asert full government control over these areas
The time of FATA is at an end.
i personally would like to see an end to lawlessness in around afghanistan, the difficult bit is how. certainly not like this. blowing up this place of learning and education is not the answer. how many of the people were actually militants? onething that is certain is a few mothers who sent their children to the school with the best of intentions are never gona see their children again. today is black day, musharraf and his militia need to be brought to justice for this. it has murder written all over it. he shouldnt be pak leader if he cant refrain from killing people. bugti was different by the way because only those with arms got hurt. but in general political activists should dealt with by peaceful means.
today in all fairness, musharraf should atleast be questionned by police
I am ashamed not to be a Pakistani but to see ppl who would rather endanger the whole country rather than deal with a bunch of tribals who have done everything against the national interest.
You always give me a shocking news,
These were the students of Madrassah, all the people have seen the mutilated bodies of those students, as per Govt Official Statement there were no foreigners, how these students were a thread to the Nuclear State Pakistan?
They use schools as meeting grounds just like Iraqi insurgents use mosques to store ammonution and guns and then complain when those areas are targetted
Its these militants who bring the war to these areas.....
If any innocents died, the miltants are responsible
What I dont understand why are you blaming the military and musharraf and not blaming these foreign terrorsit and their pakistani tribal sponsors for bringing this carnage to their people?
Isnt that how these taliban nazis recruit young pakistani boys and send them across the border to afghanistan to fight NATO and then 100's of them are getting killed everyday.....
Why dont you rant about that?
Justice for what?
For defending the territorial integrity of Pakistan?
For trying to kill alleged terrorists who would have killed more Pakistanis and taken Pakistan back to the stone age if they had their way...
It was targetted killing written all over it and if they were in a crowded areas, innocent died but don't blame musharraf for this blame these confounded terrorists who hid behind them
Peaceful means only work if the other side is also willing to negotiate on peaceful terms.
But peacful negotiations dont always work and case in point, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Facist Italy
As per official statement of the govt of Pakistan there were no foreigners, I hope you know that.
Secondly they never fought against you, they are fighting against American, I hope you are not American like your president.
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These people are traitors and as such deserve to die
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My goodness, they were heroes when they liberate your Kashmir, they were heroes when the evict Russians from Afghanistan who were sitting right on your head to approach Karachi and Gawadar, and all of a sudden they have become traitors,
which is this language I dont understan, would you like to explain please.
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Isnt that how these taliban nazis recruit young pakistani boys and send them across the border to afghanistan to fight NATO and then 100's of them are getting killed everyday.....
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So why are you so upset at killing of the NATO forces?
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hahah, Territorial integrity of Pakistan, your territory integrity has been voilated by US drones, who enters Pakistan carried out bombardment, and in order to save his chair he put the blame on Pakistan Army. Pakistan Army can never be that brutal to its own people, by now it is quite clear that they were American and instead of staging protest Pakistan tried to put the blame on its Army.
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Need not to worry about that, if the people of Frontier decide to get separated none of your godfather will be able to stop that.
But they are as good or bad Pakistanis as your Punjabis are, provided if your accept them as your Pakistani brothers which seems very difficult from your posts.
Isnt that how these taliban nazis recruit young pakistani boys and send them across the border to afghanistan to fight NATO and then 100's of them are getting killed everyday.....
and what will that accomplish?
please give some realistic options
which is it, all or most? if you dont know that then was it militants atall? if it was most, then a few innocents have been killed by its own millitary. this isnt to be allowed. your views smell of racism.
pakistani kids fighting nato is fiction. kill the kids before they do is your message. learnt it from somewhere have you?
realistic options are endless, this is a sureway of inreasing the problems. musharraf is incompetent.
most of the big name terrorist have been caught in karachi or punjab, but no army operation has been carried there, but lets not blame this army they have a danda in their a&$ from somewhere else, so u know, n e time they dont do n e thing...
lol
fir wee it may be time now to settle everyone down and asks the americans how long they are planning to stay. 5 years its been now, im sure theyve already asked themselves the same question. once gone we can focus on improving things.
there is no issue with madrassas as such. the topic has been discussed before. madrassas in their usual format should not be an alternative to regular schooling. madrassas can be enhanced to provide religious education as well as other instruction to students, that is great. there is also no issue with madrassas serving as supplementary religious education for kids who go to regular schools.
The problem is with specific madrassas that churn out thugs for extremist groups, whether these are groups that did their dirty work internally e.g. sipah e sahaba and lashkar e jhangvi etc or those that are linking up with other groups.
No issues with places that teaches kids about quran and sunnah, but massive issues with places that churn out extremists automatons or fanatical militants.
because in the big cities the terrists hoped they could hide and blend in, and aside from their close pals no one was protecting them. In the tribal regions the neo-tribals are supporting them as a policy. I am sure you know that these new tribal leaders actually systematically killed all the elder tribal leaders who were opposed to their agendas.
I ams ure if the tribals let the Pakistan law enforcement do their business and not get in the way (let alone support and hide these clowns) , then things would be done the same way they were done in the cities.