Pakistan Islamists Want U.S. Troops Out

Pakistan Islamists Want U.S. Troops Out

Mon Oct 14, 1:08 PM ET
By Nasir Malick

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (Reuters) - Hard-line Islamic parties that have emerged as potential coalition partners after a general election in Pakistan said Monday they would seek to impose Islamic law in the country and ask U.S. troops to leave.

Talks over who would form a coalition in parliament gathered pace, with the focus of the outside world on whether the Islamic front, which recorded stunning gains in last Thursday’s poll, would be part of the government or in opposition.

The election, designed to return Pakistan to civilian rule after a coup in 1999, has been strongly criticized by European Union (news - web sites) observers who said the military tipped the voting in its favor to allow President Pervez Musharraf to hold on to power.

“We assure the international community that we are not terrorists,” Qazi Hussain Ahmed, vice president of the Mutahidda-e-Amal (MMA) Islamic coalition, told a news briefing in Islamabad where he set out his party’s stall.

“We will not use this country for terrorism, nor allow anyone to use this country for terrorism,” he said, before adding:

“But we do not approve of foreign interference. For this we do not need any help from the American forces nor their bases in the country. There should also be no such bases here which could be used for interference in the affairs of neighboring states.”

He was referring to the small U.S. military presence in Pakistan concentrated at the Jacobabad air base, from where search and rescue operations in Afghanistan (news - web sites) are launched.

The MMA is also likely to oppose the small numbers of U.S. intelligence agents helping Pakistani forces track down al Qaeda suspects in tribal areas near the Afghan border.

But Musharraf, a key ally to Washington in its campaign against the Afghan Taliban and al Qaeda network, said the rise of the religious right would not derail his policies.

“As far as national policies are concerned…the national strategy does not change with a change of government, it continues,” he told reporters after a summit in Istanbul.

MMA Chairman Shah Ahmed Noorani told reporters in Karachi that his party supported the introduction of Islamic sharia law.

“Our first priority is to implement Islamic laws in the country and we will not compromise in this issue. Now it is the responsibility of the state to protect Islam and do away with secular norms.”

“KING’S PARTY” LAYS LOW

The MMA won 50 seats, eclipsing religious parties’ performance at the 1997 election when they won just two. It makes them the third largest party behind the Pakistan Muslim League Quaid-e-Azam or PML(QA) with 77 seats and the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) which won 62.

In contrast to the vocal MMA, the PML(QA) has kept a low profile since becoming the largest party in parliament.

Dubbed the “king’s party” for its perceived support of Musharraf, its leader Mian Mohammad Azhar suffered the humiliation of not winning a seat, forcing him to hand over the reins to Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain.

Local media reported talks between PML(QA) and the PPP led by exiled former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto.

But it is far from clear whether the two parties would be able to resolve their differences, with PML(QA) seen as a loose union of candidates designed to weaken the anti-Musharraf lobby and the PPP fiercely opposed to continued military rule.

The fact that the MMA is a grouping of such disparate religious parties opposed to each other in the past raises questions about its ability to remain united, analysts said.

How much the composition of the coalition in Pakistan actually matters remains to be seen.

By enhancing his powers through constitutional changes, which have given him the right to dissolve parliament and cemented the role of the military in government, Musharraf remains strong.

His decision to ban Bhutto and another exiled former premier, Nawaz Sharif, from contesting the election infuriated opponents, as did a controversial referendum in April that extended his rule for five years.

hahaha oh man oh man. I hope this is not the case but I am almost certain of the mess these mullahs will create, and it wont be a laughing matter then, however it may get conveniently blamed elsewhere.

they are not in power, the coming weeks will show how the power structure is formed. good to see though that when it comes to power they can unite otherwise everyone had their own derh eent ki masjid, JU I this group, JU that group, same for JI.

How soon until we start seeing the splits within these parties?

I wonder how these guys will control idiots like lashkar e fulana and hizb e dhamaaka.

The only period Pakistan was not under USA influence was 1973-77 when Pakistan had closet ties with muslim world and China. During this period Pakistan with some disguise and later on severe critism from USA was able to launch the only Islamic nuclear program!

These mullah's fattened their tummies during Afghan war from US aid which I dont know why was halal to them! Now the tide has changed and they are ahgianst USA now.. implementing Islamic rule is great idea but not as those jahil Talibans had in mind which was condemned by vast majority of muslim ummah all around the world.. MMA shamelessly say they will help Al- Qaida (blood hounds) and those idiots Talibans. Talibans were innocent brain washed chaps and USA action against them was wrong but those Al-Qaida whose religion is hatred showed be thrashed with full force..

MMA never spoke for innocent minority members being butchered by those fanatic scums!

Cheez,

Sounds like Qazi seems to see himself future PM :stuck_out_tongue:

GO LEGHARI!!!

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hahaha oh man oh man. I hope this is not the case but I am almost certain of the mess these mullahs will create, and it wont be a laughing matter then, however it may get conveniently blamed elsewhere.

they are not in power, the coming weeks will show how the power structure is formed. good to see though that when it comes to power they can unite otherwise everyone had their own derh eent ki masjid, JU I this group, JU that group, same for JI.

How soon until we start seeing the splits within these parties?

I wonder how these guys will control idiots like lashkar e fulana and hizb e dhamaaka.
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Fraudia PA I wonder what would be your responce if india were in same situation and had said the same thing that they don't wan't any US intervene?

For example when FBI offered india they can work together to find out who was behind the bomb blast near indian parliament and india declined to use FBI assistance.

What does MMA plans on doing about the terrorists or Al Qaida members who have crossed the border into Pakistan?

Do they support sending Pakistani troops after them or do they think it's not Pakistan's problem?

The MMA knows they cannot get power unless they behave, which is why they have issued a statement of cooperation against the war, (follow Saif's thread)...

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Fraudia PA I wonder what would be your responce if india were in same situation and had said the same thing that they don't wan't any US intervene?

For example when FBI offered india they can work together to find out who was behind the bomb blast near indian parliament and india declined to use FBI assistance.
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India is Indians business, not mine. These mullah groups are not all god fearing saintly gentlemen. Are you familiar with the activities of their student branc i.e the islami jamiyat e idiots oops I mean islami jamiyat e talbaa.

Those guys got their backing from JI, and were a constant terror on campuses until they either grew up and started worrying about atay daal ka bhao, or graduated to JI and JUI and SSP and god knows what groups.

Do I trust any of these religious-political groups, not at all, do I trust the other political groups, not at all. But those other groups will not use "islam" as their trump card to push forth their own agenda.

I am intersted in how they will react to any (gid forbid) new terrorist attacks on Minorities, and others. That will be the real litmus test of how sincere they are.

How would they propose to get US troops out? And how would they deal with the repercussions?

Talk is cheap.

Only wanting or desiring them out is not enough. Must make them out even if we have to use force.

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MMA never spoke for innocent minority members being butchered by those fanatic scums!
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degas kitni achi baat ki hai tum nay...tum larkay na hotay to tumhara moo choom leta main

yaar shiraz kitnay sharam ki baat hai, i said the same thing and you ignored it.

but if moonh choomna was the reward for that, I am glad you missed it :)

yaar fraudia, degas kabhi kabhi achi baatain kerta hai to is waja say iss k moo say sun ker ziyada khushi ho gayee.

lagta hai yaar tumko bhi larko k saath chumma chaati pasand nahi..so u must not be living in pakistan lol

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lagta hai yaar tumko bhi larko k saath chumma chaati pasand nahi..so u must not be living in pakistan lol
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khochay ki bacchi, tum ko kaisay patah chala :)

It would be very interesting to see MMA deal with issues ranging from these fanatical groups, to child abuse (read the ashna system) in NWFP etc.

An arrogant comment by an arrogant man, shame, it happens to be a man I wouldn’t expect such words from. “Ashna system” Like many stereotypes and generalizations you acknowledged to another one. Open up a thread and lets talk about it.

Trust my words, from a Peer to a Phir, you'll be sorry.

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khochay ki bacchi, tum ko kaisay patah chala :)

It would be very interesting to see MMA deal with issues ranging from these fanatical groups, to child abuse (read the ashna system) in NWFP etc.
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yaar fraudia, degas kabhi kabhi achi baatain kerta hai..l
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.. men hamesha achi baten karta hun par tumhen sirf wohi achi lagti hen jo tumhare matlab ki hoti hen.. I have always been sadened by senseless killings or injustice to any human being in the name of religion.. religion have taught us enough to hate but sadly not enough to love each other!

plus keep this chumism between u and Fraudia!