Pakistan Islamic or Secular?

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Re: Pakistan Islamic or Secular?

@MissTY

That was kind of my point. You and many others may think that this enlightened moderated islam is all just hypocritical and not true but again, some people believe it is. who are you to define the true islam? Muslims will never come to an agreement for what is the true islam that muslims need to follow.

who says i’m someone to define true islam? its job of Ulema Karam, and they will do it, not you not me, not mush. and there is no issue about what is true islam that muslim needs to follow, because there is something called “Ijmah” which was reached centuries ago in major issues, minor issues, can simply be left out for everyone to be followed their own. as currently it is.

@MissTY

When will it all fade away and real islam will arise? can you give me an example of true Islamic state that exists today. I have heard people say that taliban were the only truely islamic state. do yo u believe that?
something that contradicts Islam is not necessarily malicious. if that were true, all non-muslims would be evil but they are not. Unless we let go for our religous supremacy complex, there will never be any tolerance.

its not religious supremacy complex, ITS THE FACT. its belief. if you leave your belief and declare that you do not adhere to what Islam says, and you dont care for the hereafter (in islamic way atleast) then you are all good to go with secularism. But when we claim we are muslims, we made this country to practice our religion, and we believe the life after death, then we gotta do what we are asked to do. its all about belief, if one believes that only this world is all it has to it, then fine, no worries for them, they can earn and spend all they can the way they want, and enjoy all the can, follow any way of governing and running a country and society they find most suitable.

and remember, if some people (or most of them) are doing against Islam, and claiming to be muslim, it doesnt mean that something is wrong with Islam, its only these people who have something wrong in their head. it should not stop one from wanting and demanding implementation, and upholding opinion that they want Shariyah to be implemented in their country.

and as you asked do i believe if Taliban had a true islamic state, then no i dont believe that. but i believe it was one of the closest. yet they had very very major issues in their implementation thats why they failed.