Pakistan is better than India

Pakistan is better than India …

Pakistan Now a Hot Spot for IT Outsourcing

http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/37750.html

By Anthony Mitchell
E-Commerce Times
11/02/04 5:00 AM PT

The biggest boost to Pakistan’s efforts to break into the global IT marketplace came on September 28, when India’s finance ministry announced an income tax of more than 36 percent on foreign firms with software, R&D and customer service operations in India. This tax proposal had been in the works since the beginning of the year and is expected to prompt U.S. firms to follow GE’s lead in selling off assets in India.

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Why is Pakistan the hot new offshore information technology (IT) destination? This is because of a combination of favorable economic circumstances. Just when many Western managers are finally becoming comfortable with the idea of working closely with Indian IT firms, along comes Pakistan.

Pakistan is shaking off decades of “also ran” status. Funds invested into building educational institutions in Pakistan (when there were not enough jobs to absorb all the graduates from those institutions) are paying off as Pakistan begins to field a modern, highly productive labor force that is the envy of more prosperous but

Why is Pakistan the hot new offshore information technology (IT) destination? This is because of a combination of favorable economic circumstances. Just when many Western managers are finally becoming comfortable with the idea of working closely with Indian IT firms, along comes Pakistan.

Pakistan is shaking off decades of "also ran" status. Funds invested into building educational institutions in Pakistan (when there were not enough jobs to absorb all the graduates from those institutions) are paying off as Pakistan begins to field a modern, highly productive labor force that is the envy of more prosperous but less tech savvy nations elsewhere in the region.

Why Care?
Why should the average Western IT professional, businessperson or IT consumer care? Because we are all going to be buying and using more IT outputs from Pakistan. To be a smarter buyer and user of IT products calls for a familiarity with Pakistan, even for those who do not initially intend to do business with Pakistani firms. We are all part of a global economy and Pakistan is an increasingly important part of that global economy.

The issues that Pakistan faces as it gears up for the global high-tech marketplace are many of the same issues that both advanced and developing economies face elsewhere in the world, as both service providers and service consumers. Pakistan is making no effort to gloss over its challenges, which makes those challenges easier to address.

With a population of 160 million and a land area almost twice the size of California, Pakistan is a smaller and more unified country than most of its neighbors, which increases that nation's chances of solving its own problems and avoiding the mistakes that have plagued neighboring economies.

India Helps Pakistan
The biggest boost to Pakistan's efforts to break into the global IT marketplace came on September 28, when India's finance ministry announced an income tax of more than 36 percent on foreign firms with software, R&D and customer service operations in India. This tax proposal had been in the works since the beginning of the year and is expected to prompt U.S. firms to follow GE's lead in selling off assets in India.

Any Western business manager who initiated or approved the establishment of an IT production or R&D subsidiary in India in 2004 could find that decision to be a career-ending move unless they have built in financial reserves to accommodate both the tax scheme of September 28 and upcoming taxes still on the drawing board.

A proposal is under consideration in New Delhi to tax activities conducted over international private leased connections (IPLCs) that carry most of India's voice and data traffic to and from the outside world. There is also a proposal to replace state-to-state customs duties (octroi) with a national value added tax. Both those tax proposals could be combined into a single scheme.

U.S. IT brokerage firms, their U.S. clients and domestic Indian IT operations will be largely untouched by the September 28 tax scheme. But the traditional offshore migration path of outsourcing to an offshore location first -- before setting up captive operations there -- has been disrupted in India until economic reforms reduce the role of the Indian government in the economy and consequently reduce that nation's revenue requirements.

For Westerners with long-standing personal ties to India, that country's September 28 tax scheme could have both personal and financial consequences. For new Indian workers who hoped for a position with a Western firm based in India, that country's revenue policy will alter careers, lifestyles and futures. Westerners can pack up and look for other another country to set up operations. However, what country?

Pakistan's Advantages
Pakistan is the primary beneficiary of India's decision to tax foreign firms with captive IT operations in India. No other economy can match Pakistan's labor pool of educated English-speaking workers. No other economy can match Pakistan's scalability , reliability and low-cost environment.

Pakistan offers five advantages over India:

  1. Western experience: Executives at IT firms in Pakistan often have worked and gone to school in the U.S., which is Pakistan's largest export market. Indian IT firms whose managers have worked in the West are generally more expensive than similarly positioned Indian firms, without always providing noticeable differences in program implementation capabilities. The willingness of Pakistanis to return home from the West stands in marked contrast to most Indians who arrive for school or work in the West and never look back.

  2. Professionalism and integrity: The personal integrity of Pakistani managers is easy to identify and appreciate, especially by Westerners with business experience elsewhere in the region. However, the relatively open and trusting nature of Pakistanis has made them easy prey for Indian business brokers who have managed to cheat several Pakistani IT firms by offering to provide them with outsourcing contracts in exchange for up-front fees. The Pakistanis assumed that these Indians were open minded and charitable for coming to help less experienced firms in Pakistan gain access to international contracts, until the Indians took their money and disappeared.

  3. Higher labor availability: Fewer holidays in Pakistan means less slippage in staff availability compared to India. IT firms in India are advised to hire a diverse workforce so that members of one community can enjoy important festivals while members of other communities cover the phones and keep production going.

  4. Good accents: Pakistan's official language is English. Only Kolkata (formerly Calcutta) and the Punjabi areas of India can come close to competing with accents in Pakistan, where many families speak English at home and where accent neutralization for non-native speakers of English is substantially easier than in India. Language skills and accents provide Pakistan with a major advantage over all other Asian outsourcing destinations.

  5. Low cost talent pool: India's top-tier labor force for IT work has been stretched thin in many areas, especially Bangalore, where escalating wage rates, turnover and higher outsourcing prices are reaching critical mass at the same time that the urban infrastructure has exceeded its carrying capacity. Annual turnover rates reported to InternationalStaff.net for most merchant call center facilities in India at the beginning of November are approaching 100 percent. High turnover rates are causing a shift to second tier Indian cities and to Kolkata. Escalating turnover rates are one of the Indian outsourcing industry's dirty secrets. In comparison, Pakistan's top-tier talent pool is largely untapped and turnover rates are less than 20 percent.

*Safety and Security *
Pakistan is not without challenges, some of which are real (improving the telecommunications infrastructure) and some are exaggerated, especially in terms of the security situation. Once you have lived through a few riots in India, once you have taught yourself how to quickly turn the lights out and lay down on the floor because you are afraid of what might come through the window, then Pakistan doesn't seem so scary anymore.

The biggest danger that Westerners face in South Asia is from automobile accidents, particularly at night. India has over 8 times the number of highway fatalities per passenger mile than the U.S.

If you go looking for trouble, you will find it, whether in the back alleys of Karachi or the parking lots of many suburban U.S. shopping malls. Americans who have worked in both Karachi and Mumbai report that there is no discernable difference in the safety and security situation in both cities. The lack of reporting in the U.S. media on the occurrence of violent disturbances and general strikes in India, versus the close coverage often afforded to Pakistan, has created the illusion that Pakistani cities are somehow more dangerous than cities elsewhere in the region, especially for Americans.

The U.S. Department of State does not maintain accurate statistics on economically or personally motivated attacks against their own personnel in foreign countries. Nor does it collect accurate information on crimes committed against U.S. nationals in foreign countries. This leads U.S. citizens to avoid safe areas (for example, Islamabad) and to incur excessive risks in areas where Americans are routinely victimized (for example, Mexico City).

The U.S. government is not doing a good job at providing assistance for Americans who have been assaulted, robbed or otherwise victimized in foreign countries. If it did, there would likely be some accounting of those efforts, accounting that would demonstrate that Pakistan's major cities have been and continue to be a generally safe place for U.S. business people and their families.

*Shared Roles *
Pakistan and the U.S. have similar roles when it comes to human rights. Both countries are a beacon of safety and a haven for refugees. The government of Pakistan has not been advertising this fact. The people who have fled to Pakistan from surrounding countries in the region have, on a one-to-one personal basis. They are Pakistan's best ambassadors.

Before making up your mind about Pakistan, talk to people who have left there or have passed through there. Their origins might be different but their stories are often tragically similar. Too often, it seems as if they are all reading from the same script: family members (or themselves) in neighboring countries who have been victimized, jailed, possibly tortured, relatives killed, and all survivors traumatized and dispossessed. Pakistan welcomes them and serves as a place of safety and security.

From Iran, Afghanistan, India and elsewhere they come, seeking the same things that immigrants to the U.S. have always sought: opportunity, liberty, freedom of religion and respect for personal beliefs.

Americans naturally identify with the underdogs, the runners up, the people who are trying harder than anyone else to succeed. This is why many Americans find it easy to identify with Pakistanis.

It is not necessary for Americans to take sides in disputes between India and Pakistan. Taking sides is not required. Long-term peaceful solutions are required.

Increased trade and joint projects between Pakistan and India will pull those two countries together and create incentives for peace. American firms doing business in one or both countries can contribute to peace through responsible business practices and the moderating effects that employment and prosperity provide. This can and should be accomplished when American firms are allowed to operate on an equal footing with local firms, which for now only appears possible in Pakistan.


Anthony Mitchell, an E-Commerce Times columnist, has been involved with the Indian IT industry since 1987, specializing through InternationalStaff.net in offshore process migration, call center program management, turnkey software development and help desk management.

hurray ....good for Pakland

I guess you guys might miss some replies to this article .. Hilarious Indian stuff
Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Timekharab 2004-11-18 07:40:58 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
Mr. Tony “Mustafa” Mitchell!
Bhawaani ka salaam!
How much was “The bang for ur buck”!
India has overtaken Pakistan in every fields Space program, Missiles, Military, Education, Software, Industries, Democracy,…
Pakistan all over the world are not known other than Taxi-drivers, Terrorists, Rapists, Thugs, Anghootha-Chaaps (illiterates)and above all “The Most Authentic Bull-****ters.”
India need not have to worry about Pakistan. It is digging its own grave.

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Topgun 2004-11-16 03:40:54 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
This story is the biggest peice of malicious article ever read about India.Probably the author is out of work because of the Indians or his integrity shall be in question..
The front page of the magazine tells it all..An IT behemoth is hiring in thousands…from where??
INDIA…
Russia, China, Philipines..are just that..Wannabes..Someone hiring from Pakistan??Give me break before you count your dollars..Pakistan is the world leader in IT(International Terrorism) and Pakistani govt. is bombing its own citizens even tonite day in , day out…in search of Al-Qaeda..Every single Al-Qaeda operative has been captured in Pakistan..The authors description of some story of Indians cheating a Pakistani for some offshore work is a clear give away…
Let me quote another propaganda king Hitler “By the constant application of propaganda even men of wisdom can be made to see heaven as hell and vice-versa..” Now everyone knows what happened to hitler..Truth stays..propganda and “Pakistani HOT SPOT” Won’t.

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: MartinYourdon 2004-11-11 18:15:58 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
Geeeeeeeezzzzzzz! looks like India-Pakistan fight has been going on here! That is not healthy. I am American and honestly I am not biased towards any country. Having said that let me share my experience with you.
I have worked with both Indian and Pakistani consultants and I work for a fortune 500 company in Washington DC. As far as technical skills go, I found people from both countries at the same level; author of the article is right about the accent because not only me but other Americans coworkers found it easier to understand Pakistani accent than Indian accent. Another difference is in outer appearance and personal hygiene and I think Indians again need to work on it.
I have no clue about the IT industries in those countries and how they work but last year I heard that Dell outsourced some of its call centers to Islamabad Pakistan, which shows that Pakistan does have capabilities and resources available for such things!
Guys, relax, don’t fight. We all know India is the leader and have taken a very big share of outsourcing (which ofcourse they deserved); now looks like Pakistan is also getting involved in the scene! Good for Pakistan, afterall something is better than nothing! Good luck guys.
Chao,
Martin

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Desi_Munda 2004-11-15 17:36:01 In reply to: MartinYourdon
Mr. Martin’s comments on Indian accent and personal hygiene is very amusing. More and more companies are moving their backoffice to India I guess they seem to be impressed by ‘difficult’ Indian accent.

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Neuron 2004-11-09 21:45:59 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
I am small business owner here in Pakistan. I started myself providing development services to small business foreign clients. After a year,Now, I have a proper office, having two highly qualified software developers and two newly appointed trainees. My business is growing day by day. Who says that Pakistan is not providing favourable outsourcing facilities.Have doubt ? Then, talk to me man .
My clients are repeating business with me and since my start, I have not lost a single client.
None of my clients are local, all from America, and Europe.

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Wasif Zaidi 2004-11-08 23:18:16 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
As an experienced IT Professional, I do agree with Mr.Mitchell . I am myself astonished to see that now Pakistan is not what it was 5 or 6 years back. Pakistan is the real challenger to Indian IT outsourcing fairy tale. The 2 odd guys in this discussion board described a febricated & baseless story about overall situation in pakistan. Ask those who have done business within or with Pakistani companies. The IT environment is ideal in pakistan for foreign investment backed by aggressive and ambitious Govt. Policies that looks determined to make pakistan a regional economical power and Global IT hub. Hats off to Mr.Anthony Mitchell for his sharp observations over pakistani people and their abilities especially Honesty and Comfort level in English accent. In the last 6 years, there has been a revolution in the business sector in pakistan . The major developments in this period are listed below which can be verified by any independent indicators

  1. The sharp increase in Foreign Exchange Reserves from US $900m to 12.5 billion dollors
  2. A wild upsurge in Stock market that rose from 1300 points to 5600 points as of oct/nov 2004
  3. A reasonable fall in the foreign Debts from 39 billion dollors to 34 billion dollors
  4. Increase in overall Exports from 7.5 billion dollors to more than 12 billion dollors
  5. Sharp increase in foreign investments in almost all sectors especially IT and Telecom sector.
    For those readers who have a false perception about pakistan for any reason should know that many global business giants are operating smoothly in Pakistan and that includes:
    Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Halliburton, Land Mark Graphics, LMK Resources, Pi Sigma, Fusion, Orasscom telecom, Telenor, Al-warid, Cable & wireless Instaphone and many international Petroleum companies .
    The bottom line is that there is already a huge investement worth billions of dollors in pakistan and the IT environment is getting better and better day by day as compared to the overloaded IT industry of India.

Re: Circumstances Make Pakistan Hot IT Outsourcing Location
Posted by: Lisak 2004-11-08 17:04:56 In reply to: Anthony Mitchell
Given the wonderful cooperation to United States from Pakistan’s President and Pakistani people it is prudent that we support their economy. I am impressed by the detailed research done by Anthony. Good article! Will someone distribute this article to CEOs of Fortune 1000 companies?
Lisa

^ and i agree partially.

i doesnot know pakistan is better of india is better .
i just knows i love MY PAKISTAN MORE THEN MY LIFE…

AND I WISH GOD MAKE IT BETTER FROM THE WHOLE WORLD:insha:

Poverty in India is amazing, Check the book “India Untouched” by George Abraham.

http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/braun/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1101707415206980.xml

His book – “India Untouched” – an indictment of corruption and neglect in India and the global economic forces that make a few, here and there, rich, and condemn far more to a poverty so grinding that it bears little resemblance to life as we know it.

^ Despite all this, I bet many Pakistanis wish Pakistan had the same political stability and economic growth rate as India.

Let's embrace all the good things about India. One day we too will have sustained economic growth and political stability.

:clap:

Pakistan has outsourced services???

Glad to see Pakistan getting into the game. But such boisterous tones..make me snicker. :hehe: Why the need to say idiotic things like “we blow India away…” $50 Million in IT exports… That is a tier III IT services company in India. I think Pakistan should flex some muscles towards Ghana..because more work will there than Pakistan. :slight_smile:

Another point to note is that..when any geopolitical disturbance occurs, Pakistan would feel the pressure. Probably more from within.

U.S. Firms Pick Up Pakistan’s Call for Outsource Work

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By Evelyn Iritani Times Staff Writer

LAHORE, Pakistan — Pakistan would be hard-pressed to make anyone’s list of best places to do business.

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It’s poor and saddled with a history of political instability and corruption. The U.S. government has warned Americans to stay away because of possible terrorist attacks. Blackouts are common in big cities.

But John Armbruster is betting that Pakistan’s attributes — including a large, low-cost pool of English speakers — point to a brighter future.

He’s aiming to help the country carve out a piece of the lucrative outsourcing business dominated by its neighbor and longtime rival, India.

So far, the bet by Armbruster’s company, TRG Pakistan Ltd., is paying off. It recently branched beyond its main office in Lahore and opened a second office in Karachi, the nation’s commercial center. By year-end, TRG hopes to expand to 500 employees from 300 now.

“We blow India away as far as quality is concerned,” said Armbruster, the company’s director of operations. “The problem India has gotten into is that it has grown too fast.”

Throughout the developing world, call centers are old news. But Pakistan is just getting into the game after years of economic stagnation fed by political and religious strife, as well as a dispute with India that occasionally has erupted into war.

Pakistan’s border with Afghanistan (news - web sites) became a battle zone in the U.S.-led war against terrorism. Buyers panicked and apparel exports plummeted. Investors went elsewhere.

But the Pakistani government, aided by the Bush administration, has launched an aggressive effort to get its economic house in order by reducing debts and privatizing state-owned utilities. Interest rates have fallen, along with electrical and telephone rates. The economy grew an impressive 6.4% last year.

Pakistan now hopes to capitalize on some of the qualities that propelled its much larger neighbor to the top of the outsourcing class.

Like India, Pakistan has a large number of educated English speakers willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages. Operating costs are low, in line with other parts of South Asia.

To boost its appeal as a high-tech hub, the Pakistani government has provided a 15-year tax exemption on software exports, eliminated duties on technology imports and streamlined the investment process.

Last year, investors sank $1.5 billion into the information technology sector, boosting software exports to $50 million, said Tariq Ikram, chairman of Pakistan’s Export Promotion Bureau. “Pakistan,” he boasted, “has some of the cheapest IT costs in the region.”

For all that, though, muscling into the outsourcing business won’t be easy for Pakistan.

Rival nations are also eager to grab a piece of the multibillion-dollar sector. Dubai has set its sights on becoming a financial center. Mauritius, an island nation in the Indian Ocean, is hoping to become a disaster- recovery center for corporations. China is targeting software development.

“This is such a competitive market with countries aggressively positioning themselves,” said Paul Laudicina, an outsourcing expert at consulting company A.T. Kearney Inc. “Because of the digitization of data, low-cost telephone services can be provided virtually anywhere. You can shop around, going from Chile to Finland just on your computer screen.”

Despite recent improvements, Laudicina added, Pakistan still lags far behind many other countries on global rankings of three significant criteria: math and science skills, business environment and costs. In addition, he said, the country’s continuing political instability creates a “do not pass go” image for many investors.

Indeed, Pakistan’s outsourcing efforts were nearly derailed by the 2001 terrorist attacks.

When planes hit the World Trade Center, Armbruster was in Pakistan to set up a back- office operation for Align Technology Inc., a Silicon Valley producer of plastic braces.

Within days, Align’s share price plummeted because investors were worried that the company’s Pakistan branch would get caught up in the escalating battle against terrorism, according to company representatives.

When Align announced it was closing its Lahore office, Armbruster and other company executives decided to take over the operation. It eventually became TRG.

Armbruster, who had set up call centers for several large U.S. firms, was convinced he could make a go of it in Pakistan. Rather than persuade U.S. companies to shift their work to Pakistan, TRG decided to invest in or buy small North American call centers and help them outsource their business overseas.

The firm began by buying a minority interest in Alert Communications, a South Pasadena company that had been in the telephone-answering business for 50 years. Alert President Gary Blasiar said the arrangement had allowed him to enjoy the cost savings of an offshore location without the headaches of managing a foreign operation himself.

Blasiar acknowledged having some initial qualms about outsourcing his business to Pakistan, and his family and friends “certainly thought I’d taken leave of my senses.” But after making sure his life insurance was in order, he visited Pakistan and has returned half a dozen times since.

“I have never felt threatened,” he said.

For Blasiar, a big payoff is the skill level that he gets in Pakistan, where TRG hires college graduates to handle the telephones for about $6,000 a year. At least 40% of the firm’s employees have lived abroad, making it easier for them to pick up accents and vernacular speech.

While most of Pakistan sleeps, TRG’s spacious office in downtown Lahore is abuzz with telephone operators working for Blasiar’s clients. Their work includes taking messages for Glendale physicians, filling catalog orders for Lego toys and launching subscription drives for the Los Angeles Times.

Another benefit for call- center operators in Pakistan is the large group of young, educated women eager for employment. Although women have made great strides in this populous Muslim country, there are still many restrictions on female participation in the workforce, particularly in rural areas.

Hina Rizvi, a 28-year-old Pakistani woman who oversees Alert’s business in Pakistan, has been promoted three times and now oversees a department of 130 telephone operators, one-third of whom are female.

She didn’t plan on being a pioneer. But in big and small ways, she is challenging some deeply rooted beliefs. It’s not just that she is a manager, an unusual accomplishment for a woman. It’s also that she is a single woman working at night in an office filled mostly with men, a practice that many here consider dangerous, if not heretical.

Armbruster would like more women on his call-center staff, in part because he believes they are “better communicators.” But breaking new ground hasn’t been easy. TRG offers tours of the company’s modern offices for skeptical parents and spouses and provides bus service for female employees so they won’t be traveling alone at night.

“We’re challenging a lot of norms here,” Rizvi said.

Although Pakistan’s economy took a big hit after the 2001 terrorist attacks, there was an unexpected silver lining. As part of a global effort to undermine terrorist financing, the Pakistani government clamped down on the unregulated money-transfer businesses that were the primary funnel for money sent from abroad by emigres. That prompted a large flow of funds into the nation’s banks — $4 billion last year and billions more expected this year.

Although much of that money flowed into the stock market and real estate, some also went into start-up companies, particularly in the technology sector.

Pakistani expatriates also began tapping into the improving economy back home. Two years ago, Bob Din, chief executive of En Pointe Technologies, wanted to cut costs at his struggling El Segundo computer firm. He initially considered India for outsourcing back-office functions, such as sales and service.

But Din, who immigrated to the United States in 1970, decided that Pakistan offered lower costs and a workforce that had better English skills and a more confident phone manner.

“In software programming, India is way ahead of Pakistan,” he said. “But in general business back-office work, people in Pakistan spoke well and understood the processes.”

Din established a relationship with an outsourcing company in Islamabad, Ovex Technologies, that now handles back-office operations for his company and a handful of other U.S. and European customers.

Shifting part of his business to Pakistan reduced costs enough that En Pointe Technologies is profitable again, Din said. He also believes that he is contributing “in a very small way” to strengthening Pakistan’s struggling economy.

“If you get the right education to people, that cures a lot of the problem,” he said. “But once people get educated, you have to have someplace where they can go to work. The U.S. really has to help them.”

Re: Pakistan has outsourced services??????

"We blow India away as far as quality is concerned," said Armbruster, the company's director of operations. "The problem India has gotten into is that it has grown too fast."

  • lolz. Matsui bhai thanks for posting. First i read this statement and then read the 50m figure, i literally started laughing out loud in my office.I just found this very funny and decided not to respond seriously. BTW its a good problem to have.

Re: Pakistan has outsourced services??????

I am all for Pakistan to exploit the global resourcing model. Smart people in large numbers like Pakistan has can certainly make a difference. Unfortunately, no matter "how great the quality" is or "what great accents people have"..., Pakistan is a high risk country. That is why I mentioned the issues, "within".

Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

This is an interesting article. I am only reproducing some excerpts. For full story, click on the link. Whats evident to those who have lived there or visited in recent times, is that Pakistan offers a lot of pros (and cons are largely over-stated). It will take a few people to take the initiative and get Pakistan on the map as a great choice for outsource work. Its a win-win for all.

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Pakistan would be hard-pressed to make anyone’s list of best places to do business.

It’s poor and saddled with a history of political instability and corruption. The U.S. government has warned Americans to stay away because of possible terrorist attacks. Blackouts are common in big cities.

But John Armbruster is betting that Pakistan’s attributes — including a large, low-cost pool of English speakers — point to a brighter future.

He’s aiming to help the country carve out a piece of the lucrative outsourcing business dominated by its neighbor and longtime rival, India.

So far, the bet by Armbruster’s company, TRG Pakistan Ltd., is paying off. It recently branched beyond its main office in Lahore and opened a second office in Karachi, the nation’s commercial center. By year-end, TRG hopes to expand to 500 employees from 300 now.

We blow India away as far as quality is concerned,” said Armbruster, the company’s director of operations. “The problem India has gotten into is that it has grown too fast.”

But the Pakistani government, aided by the Bush administration, has launched an aggressive effort to get its economic house in order by reducing debts and privatizing state-owned utilities. Interest rates have fallen, along with electrical and telephone rates. The economy grew an impressive 6.4% last year.

Like India, Pakistan has a large number of educated English speakers willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages. Operating costs are low, in line with other parts of South Asia.

To boost its appeal as a high-tech hub, the Pakistani government has provided a 15-year tax exemption on software exports, eliminated duties on technology imports and streamlined the investment process.

Last year, investors sank $1.5 billion into the information technology sector, boosting software exports to $50 million, said Tariq Ikram, chairman of Pakistan’s Export Promotion Bureau. “Pakistan,” he boasted, “has some of the cheapest IT costs in the region.”

For Blasiar, a big payoff is the skill level that he gets in Pakistan, where TRG hires college graduates to handle the telephones for about $6,000 a year. At least 40% of the firm’s employees have lived abroad, making it easier for them to pick up accents and vernacular speech.

While most of Pakistan sleeps, TRG’s spacious office in downtown Lahore is abuzz with telephone operators working for Blasiar’s clients. Their work includes taking messages for Glendale physicians, filling catalog orders for Lego toys and launching subscription drives for the Los Angeles Times.

Another benefit for call- center operators in Pakistan is the large group of young, educated women eager for employment.

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

Faisal dude - I’m so tempted to do what you do so well :smiley: … so here goes:

This topic (and similar ones) are already being discussed:

Here:
http://www.gupistan.com/gs/showthread.php?t=173150

Here:
http://www.gupistan.com/gs/showthread.php?t=165431

and Here:
http://www.gupistan.com/gs/showthread.php?t=165203

:slight_smile: hehe… although your context is better cuz at least you started with a comment on the issue unlike a lot of ctrl_c + ctrl_v type threads.

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

Pls merge them, and remove duplicate articles. Thanks.

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

yesh boss :Salute:

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

Faisal, I would rather invest in Bangladesh than Pakistan, more politically stable and better attitudes and productivity than Pakistan. I know Indian companies are trying to establish centers in Pakistan, "better accents, :hehe: " but you guys are almost arabs adn near afghanistan. Not gonna happen.

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

Yup, I think its a great idea if you can invest in disposable roads in Bangladesh. You can rebuild them every year, after the floods are gone. Endless life-cycle! :k:

Re: Is Pakistan on her way to get Outsource Work?

Faisal, you know what cracks me up is the bluster…“Better accents”…this coming from a country that is going to compete with the market leader in the industry. Reminds me of 10 hindus for every Paki jawan. DO you not think, these guys should shut the fk up before opening their mouths? I mean…haven’t done siht but talk as if they are IBM. :hehe:

Having run an ITO and BPO company, let me lay it on ya brah…Pakistan will not be there any time soon, unless INdian companies decide to invest. Adn they will invest if the Pakistani gov’t plays ball, i.e. further concessions politically (we know what that means). So all this bluster needs some gounded reality…I am being real here.

Pakistan is like Switzerland but the people are becoming more and more like Saudis. Which, n the end will be the wrong model. Saudi per capitla GDP went from $20000 to $4000 in 20 years. You now the reasons why.