Pakistan investigates whether women killed for clapping

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With all the controversy about the CJ right now, here is a story which shows that all other issues aside he is still working on ensuring justice gets served

The case so far:

  1. In May it was reported that a jirga in Kohistan sentenced 4 women and 2 men to death for dancing which was recorded in a mobile phone video, and a relative of the women said they had been murdered as a result
  2. The tribe denied it
  3. The Attorney-General sent a team to the area and said that they found that no such incident has taken place, and that the video was faulty (What on earth does that mean???)
  4. The woman’s relative continued to insist that they were murdered by having their throats slit open on May 30th
  5. The local commisioner file charges against the relative for lying!
  6. Chief Justice steps in saying that if the women were not murdered… then they should be presented before the Supreme Court to settle the issue. If the local comissioner cannot produced the women by the end of the day today, he has to quit!

Kohistan case: CJ says women must be produced in court | DAWN.COM

ISLAMABAD: The Supreme Court on Wednesday adjourned the hearing in the suo motu notice in the Kohistan death decree case to 6 pm, DawnNews reported.

The court had taken a suo motu notice on the issue on Monday after reports came up that clerics had allegedly issued orders for the killing of four women and two men after a mobile phone video emerged of the six singing and dancing at a wedding in a remote village in Kohistan.

A three-judge bench of the apex court comprising Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, Justice Jawwad S. Khwaja and Justice Khilji Arif Hussain had taken up the notice in the case.

During the hearing, Attorney General Irfan Qadir informed the court that a fact-finding team was sent to Kohistan and it had determined that no such incident had taken place.

Responding to which, the chief justice inquired why the women in question had not been presented before the court. He reiterated that the women would have to be produced before the bench.

The attorney general reiterated that the video was faulty and no such incident had taken place, upon which the chief justice said that the women should be produced in court if they have not been murdered.

The chief justice also reprimanded the Hazara regional commissioner and said he must produce the women by Wednesday evening and failing to do so would require him to prepare to quit his job.

Chief Justice Iftikhar directed Chief Secretary Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Ghulam Dastgir that the women should be handled with the utmost respect and should be produced before the court.

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Actually, I found another article from Geo which makes this more interesting.

The local police and government is denying the incident took place, but two men have already testified that the killings happened. Their brother says that the police are siding with the jirga to cover up the murder.

All should become clear tomorrow, when it is being claimed that the 4 girls will be produced before the court. Apparently weather is preventing the government helicopter that will take them to the court from landing in their village.

I bet the jirga is busily briefing 4 random girls on what to do to pretend to be the ones that were killed…

Kohistan Case: Girls to be produced before SC on Thursday - geo.tv

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I really hope and pray that the girls are still alive, but unfortunetly what it seems like that these girls might have been murdered, otherwise why would jirga and police try to cover the story and keep delaying things. girls were suppose to be presented in the court today and they didnt show up, SC has extended a deadline to june 7th.

if they were murdered, then the culprits should be given exemplary punishment for this brutal act. so, nobody should have guts to do anything like this in the future.

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^^ Who and what was ever presented in court on time?
Delay tactics...buying time to cook a foolproof story.....yahi nahen hoota haar dafa???

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He always go right in cases where weak are effected by weak .

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Weak? The whole provincial government is trying to portray as if no murder took place?

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It seems the girls are alive.

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It’s still confusing. Farzana Bari, a human rights activist who was part of the team sent by the SC, says that 4 of the 5 women are alive and that she has met 2 of them.

Yet she is also saying that it will not be possible to produce them before the Supreme Court??? What could possibly keep the women away from the Supreme Court when the CJ has decreed that they must be produced?

Four Kohistan women alive, says Farzana Bari | The Nation

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brother says they are dead, everyone else says they are alive. confusing.

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hIf they are alive, then why would their families agree to parade them on national tv when they were ready to kill them for clapping at a family function?
If they are dead, how would anyone know? This is a remote KP village we are talking about.

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activists met two out of five girls today and they said the found no signs of torture on their body. However, the families didnt allow them to take those 2 girls with activists!

I still feel things are fishy and we dont really know what happened to the other 3 girls, why there is no news about them?
did the activists try to meet them??

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so it was just a fake story, a rumor to divert awaam attention?

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There is a statement by someone that the boys were thinking about getting visas of US or Canada but some locals still insisting about some killing .

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The case is very confusing

Kohistan Jirga case: Salekhel tribe asks Azadkhel to own killing of women – The Express Tribune

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The details of the case continue to not be clear.

  1. Although the human rights workers claimed to have met 2 of the girls, they only judged the identity of the girls based on physical similarity to the girls in the video
  2. The human rights workers could not talk directly with the girls as the only language the girls knew is Shina, which none of the activists knew. They had to ask the tribe to provide interpretors… and the tribe gave them two of the men who were on the same jirga accused of laying the death sentences. Did the interpretors actually give the truth or did they just say what was needed to cover their crimes?

Kohistan jirga: Doubts cast on the safety of

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Pakistan investigates whether women killed for clapping

Wth is wrong with our society?

Pakistan investigates whether women killed for clapping | Reuters

Reuters) - Pakistan’s Supreme Court on Wednesday ordered police and government officials to fly to a mountain village to investigate whether four women were killed for clapping and singing as men danced at a wedding.

Footage of the wedding, filmed on a mobile phone, appeared on television stations recently.

A brother of the men who were dancing told journalists that a tribal council ordered the killings because the women violated tribal honor in the remote northern village of Gizar Alitray.

“I say this under oath, I swear it, the girls have been killed under orders from a tribal court. They were killed on May 30. I fear for my life, for my brothers,” Afzal Khan told reporters outside the Supreme Court on Wednesday.

The case has focused attention on honor killings in Pakistan, a largely conservative Muslim country.

Families or tribes often take justice into their own hands. Gatherings of elders hand down punishments that include the rape or killing of women for crimes including falling in love with a man deemed inappropriate, or besmirching family honor. Fraternizing and dancing between men and women is frowned upon.

Almost 1,000 women were killed in the name of honor in the South Asian nation last year, according to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. Activists say the actual number is much higher as a majority of cases go unreported.

Government officials, from Interior Minister Rehman Malik, to regional police officers and administrators, said they had no knowledge of any such killings in the village of Gizar Alitray. But local officials have so far failed to provide proof that the women are still alive.

“So far, according to our information, nothing like this has happened,” Malik told reporters. “The chief justice is right, though, if the women are alive, produce them.”

In the grainy video, two boys dance as four women sing and clap while sitting. No frame shows the men and women together, raising the possibility the video was doctored.

The Supreme Court told officials if they believed the women were alive, they should go to the village, by helicopter if necessary, and find them.

Officials attempted to reach Gizar Alitray but bad weather forced them to land in another village.

“Our helicopter is stuck here. We will try to go there again tomorrow morning,” one of the officials, Khalid Umarzai, told Reuters by telephone.

(Additional reporting by Qasim Nauman in ISLAMABAD; Writing by Michael Georgy; Editing by Rosalind Russell)

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http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/560545-a-story-of-the-chief-justice-doing-his-job-exactly-right.html

being discussed here.

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[note]merged the threads together[/note]

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Now the thread's name telling what to discuss honestly the same one was before to praise CJ oh MY MAN.
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If this case bring a light in the shadow of dark to save innocent lives got be killing by few stupid bunch of peoples named Jirga etc then this the right time to ban all kind of jirgas any single pvt.court with it's black mafia. And I don't think so CJ have balls to do that he is busy in politics.