I am sure Pak Army is all too aware of their limitations in a conventional war.
The bottomline is this. There are elements in Pakistan, fed by Pak Army for a long long time, who want a war with India.
They want a war with the west too, but can't do much about it.
India is a 'Soft' target for them.
The whole argument comes down to this.
The Whole World wants Pakistai Army to control these elements.
The question is can they?
If the recent suicide bombing in Karachi is any indication, some people want Pakistan to be another Palestine. Far worse infact.
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...If the recent suicide bombing in Karachi is any indication, some people want Pakistan to be another Palestine...
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hmmm, a Palestine with nuclear weapons?. Are you sure people want that?
hmmm, a Palestine with nuclear weapons?. Are you sure people want that? <<
Well, I don't know why Pakistanis think Indians will feel threatened by the 'N' Word!!!
After all if Paks decide to drop the big one, there is little we can do about it, except drop bigger ones back!!
Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
Also it scares me when Pakis talk about Nuclear weapons in such an 'Esy' way.
Both countries will be ruined, but Pakistan will be wiped off the map.
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*...Also it scares me when Pakis talk about Nuclear weapons in such an 'Esy' way...
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Aik na aik din to marna hai :)
It is laughable that some Indians think there will be a winner in a nuclear war.
On a serious note, even in a conventional war, Pakistan and India will do a lot of damage to each other. Believe me, Pakistan will make sure that its conventional weapons are targetted at places that will put India back many decades. Unfortunately, only a real war can prove that. Do the Indians really want to take a chance to find out?
Unfortunately, only a real war can prove that. Do the Indians really want to take a chance to find out?<<<
Based on the past record YES!!!
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Only time will tell my friend. The stakes have changed.
Psychologically, I think both the Indian and Pakistani public are being mentally prepared for a war. So if it happens, it happens.**
Didnt see seem them mumbling the same thing in 65, LOL
Pakistan has people like Major Aziz Bhatti, Major Shabeer Sharif etc when it comes to fighting strength...
"Pakistan has only 72 hours worth of fighting strenght.
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Sometimes people here reminds me about children telling each other “my father is stronger than your father”.
The reality is that none of us know much about each others military strenght since both army are not in favour of telling any “outsider” such as the public or the media about there capabilities. The usual explaination you recieve from both armys is " we are full capable of given the enemy a lesson", “we can combat and win”, “we are ready” e.t.c.
Both army are telling us that they have a upper hand. The indians are saying that since they have a much larger conventional forces they can wipe out Pakistan easely. The Pakistanis are saying that they are better trained and having better material than the indians and ready to use nukes if nessesary.
Who should we believe ? Naturelly we are in full support of our respective countries.
Another question arrising is would an eventuel war be limited or fullscale?
The scenario of a limited war is not very realistic basically because of 2 points:
A: With such a huge numbers of troops deployed on both sizes it would be very difficult to reign in the conflict to a limited geografical area as the loosing part would try to open up new fronts to balance there loss.
B: India would loose its superiority in a limited war as it is Indian forces at hole wich are larger than the Pakistani forces. A limited attack in some area would mean that the Pakistani side would be able to regroup and use there resources much better and india would loose much of its conventional strenght proportionally. Therefore the indian option would be to open up new fronts to keep the Pakistanies “busy”.
A full scale war would indeed lead to a total destruction of both countries and if they manage to survive they would be at the bottom of the UN development list for at least 50 years to come. Both of the countries would also be seen as rough states no matter who starts the war.
I have tried to be as neutral as possible and would like the replies to be as well. Other types of arguments like “mine is bigger than yours” are not relevant because if we see a full scale war none of us would spend our time chatting here at this board but rather run around to see wether their is a small chance that some of our relatives back home has survived.
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That term is an oxymoron.
specially when enjoying popcorn with coke