Pakistan: Gunmen kill 11 minority Hazara coal miners in Baluchistan

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Do anyone remember, we have broken down the back of terrorism…
In recent updates, PM Imran Khan said, he will not blackmailed by the protestors. it is bizarre how protestor can blackmail him, while Hazara is the victim community who regularly attacked by terrorists. Apathetic Imran Khan, you should be grounded before you used the blackmail.

The victims were from the minority Shiite Hazara community. Pakistan’s prime minister, Imran Khan, condemned the attack as a “cowardly inhumane act of terrorism.”

Attackers in southwestern Pakistan have killed at least 11 workers at a remote coal mine, officials said Sunday.

The victims were from the minority Shiite Hazara community, Khalid Durrani, a government official, told French news agency AFP.

The Islamic State extremist group later claimed responsibility for the attack, which took place in the mountainous Machh area of Baluchistan province.

Ethnic Hazara make up most of the Shiite population in Quetta, the capital of Baluchistan.

It is the country’s largest and poorest region, rife with ethnic, sectarian and separatist insurgencies.

Hazara are often targeted by Sunni militants, who consider them heretics.

What do we know about the attack?

The attack took place before dawn on Sunday near the Machh coal field, about 60 kilometers (37 miles) southeast of Quetta.

Moazzam Ali Jatoi, an official with the Levies Force, a paramilitary gendarmerie, said armed men took the coal miners to nearby mountains before shooting them. He said six of the miners died at the scene, while another five died of critical injuries on the way to hospital.
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Hazara are often targeted by Sunni militants, who consider them heretics

The assailants fled after the attack. Officials said police and members of the local paramilitary force were on the scene, where a search operation had been launched to trace the attackers.

It remains unclear why the mine was targeted. Though Pakistan’s mines are notorious for poor safety standards, such attacks against miners are rare.

In a tweet, Prime Minister Imran Khan condemned “the killing of 11 innocent coal miners in Machh” as a “cowardly inhumane act of terrorism.”

“The families of the victims will not be left abandoned by the government,” he added.

News of the killings prompted members of the Hazara community to take the streets of Quetta in protest. Shiite cleric Nasir Abbas said demonstrations against the incident would be organized across the country.

kmm/nm (AP, AFP)

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Don’t want to spread rumors but what I’m hearing is that IK did not attend funerals of his close relatives and friends either. Some people believe that unsettled souls can be used to do black magic on them so they do not attend funerals nor stay around those who are about to die.

PS: I don’t believe all that but thought to share.

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@redvelvet Our resident expert on the super natural can shed some light. IK married a Jin Handler so quite possible,

Funny how many immigrants here are going hoarse yelling for BLM and Palestine and are strangely mum over Shia slaughter

Silence is complicity

Many on this forum made hateful posts against Shias

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Few years ago - one poster even supported this genocide here blaming the hazaras!

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Funny when the same people go to no Muslim countries they vehemently cite human rights and want to be treated even better than the nationals

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There are nationwide protests and strikes against this heinous crime.

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This is indeed a unique way of not spreading unsubstantiated rumors.

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It is funny how you are unable to comprehend the difference. One was considered an act of racism committed by LEA and then endorsed by the government. The other is an act of terrorism committed by rogue actors, bent on inciting further sectarian violence and to destabilize the region.

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This is a baseless conjecture. Please provide a link to a study that proves your claim.

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No one supported that person. I will try to pull the thread so that others will be able to judge themselves.

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Thanks for sharing the video and censoring my posts. Without even wanting to see such ideas, I made myself watch this video completely. At no point in the video, your claim got answered. While you have provided a link to another serious matter, the video is not related to the claim you posed in the first place.

Kindly note my query again:

Originally posted by Bobby1 View Post

Funny when the same people go to no Muslim countries they vehemently cite human rights and want to be treated even better than the nationals

This is a baseless conjecture. Please provide a link to a study that proves your claim.

Let’s look back at history to find the root of this problem. Unfortunately, the rise of Wahabism, which most of the Muslims outside of Saudi Arabia do not subscribe to, is directly attributed to the deal between the Saud family and the British Empire of the time. The reasons sited were to instill permanent divide in the Muslim empire of the time by creating a violent force that fought against the tribes that were supporting unity with the Ottoman empire. Before that time, Wahabism was only confined to a few Arabian tribes.

So the important question is why this ideology is still supported. Why current powers have not restricted such violent ideology and banned it from their countries. The answer is that such violent forces have been useful in destabilizing whole regions in the middle east. Such forces have regularly been utilized in Libya, Iraq, Syria and other places to create scenarios for regime changes. So minor inconveniences can be ignored for greater cause.

Majority of the Muslims do not believe in these ideologies.

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To understand this, you have to go a bit deep into religious philosophy. While Qadri was given capital punishment (that he deserved) for a crime that he committed, masses believed he committed his wrong act because of his love for prophet. Gatherings against his capital punishment were much smaller. So the important take away is that the public supported the law on this important and sensitive issue.

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The video I posted about the undercover mosque is many ordinary muslims, they do not object, protest or stop attending the hateful sermons. They vote by repeatedly attending the sermons. That extremist ideology exists because members of the society consume it. Frankly the ideology of that preacher is way worse than even Nazis.

If you feel that there are many moderates than they need to take their mosques back from extremists and should make their voices heard.

What are your views on integration and making friends with people outside the faith?

PS. I am not a moderator, never havebeen, never will be.

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I believe we need to get a consensus on what you quoted earlier. There will be no closure if you keep on adding more irrelevant material without clarifying your previous claims. I respect that it is your choice not to answer to anything but then what really is your reason to be here. Your comment was:

“Funny when the same people go to no Muslim countries they vehemently cite human rights and want to be treated even better than the nationals” and I humbly requested to provide a proof. Your video link did not provide any proof and then instead of providing a proof, you jumped on another band wagon.

There are a lot of extremists in the world and not only Muslims. For me, it is getting apparent that you also have extremist views. Your comment about “…way worse than even Nazis” shows your lack of understanding of Nazis’ philosophies and your tendency to push false narratives. If you look around yourself, living in Canada, you can get your answer right away but only if you are willing to see the truth. Hundred and thousands of Muslims live around you who do not have such views. I have lived most of my life working and traveling to different countries, Muslim and otherwise, and I can count the number of Muslims who I have met with extremist views on the fingers of my one hand. Off course, there are extremists whom I haven’t come in contact with and they exist. But so do other extremist organizations. There are still members of KKK, Neo-Nazis, and other fascistic and extremist organizations in the world. Certain countries regularly commit acts of wire crime and have apartheid policies. So yes, there are problems that need to be solved but the governments, including Canadian, are not trying to solve them as it is not in their broader interest to solve them.

Your question about my views on religious integration reeks of deeply rooted bias. Some of my best friends are from India, and although they are followers of Hindu religion, it has never been an issue. On the night of 26/11, I came to sit with my Indian friends while the events were unfolding on the street. I have actual friends from many different nationalities and regardless of their nationalities and religious beliefs, the common beliefs based on humanity were our binding force.

Your mindset is part of the problem, where you believe in false narratives and then without any investigation propagate it. Your comment on IK reflect the same, because you don’t have any idea why he did not visit the affected and instead of finding the reasons, you preferred to malign him.

Unfortunately, holding vigils to support the berieved means little, when the elected commit and support committing the most heinous of crimes.

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Firstly when they continue going to mosque without confronting the hateful Imam shows complicity. Nazis think whites are superior, Imam says that the worst terrorist Muslim is better than any non Muslim, isn’t that a claim to superiority? The genocide of Shias, the fatwas to slaughter Shias. Rape their women and enslave their women is worse than any Nazi slogan

If you have non Muslim friends than according to the Imam you are not following
his religious sermons

yes these people in the video seem entitled to better treatment than locals, as locals would pay a heavy price for bigotry yet these people can show extreme hatred for non Muslims, call for killings of gays. Claim terrorists are better than locals and still enjoy in many cases welfare cheque, free housing, millions in health care, parks, gardens.

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Unfortunately, our security establishment has been using these sectarian terrorists for their regional strategic purposes and has been turning a blind eye to the violence they inflict on the innocent.

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The problem is pure sectarian not a political at all, despite it being planted for a political reason.

The solution is not that difficult. the establishment must stop nurturing the snakes. They'll only bite you whether by attacking APC or hazaras or someone else.

But no that wont happen i guess ever. Wait for the next event

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It is India that is behind the killings. It was one of several attempts to create sectarian tensions. But the opposite happened, because sunni and shia leaders in Pakistan know better and understand the nuances. CPEC is a thorn in the eye of regional and international adversaries of China and they keep trying to throw a wrench into the progress being made. If the goal was to kill Shias only, then that is far easier to do in Karachi where 10-15 people are shot daily anyway. Looking at the timeline of attacks on Shias in Quetta and nearby areas, it becomes clear that it started after India got foothold in Afghanistan. Once the fencing of the border completes later this year, I’m quite hopeful such attacks will stop.

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Those 2020 protests in Karachi were not against Shias, but against speeches that were also condemned by Shia leaders. The reporting was intentionally aimed at spreading disinformation to create sectarian tensions. Existence of such disinformation campaigns twisting the truth to serve an agenda, is well established.

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I’m not in favor of pinning everything on India and slide it under the rug. Not owning a problem is the peek level of incompetence.

Lets say it is India. Then how is it freely happening in our country? Again and again and again…

Just to get the facts straight, Hazaras killing is not a new thing. It has happened very regularly in atleast 3 past governments which makes it more than a decade. And that too very mercilessly. Like stopping the bus, taking them out and just shoot right there. Pretty sure if this time if they had not turned into protest, this would have been a forgotten case as well