Pakistan Filed Official Complain with ICC

Pakistan filed the official complain against the umpiring decision made against Inzimam and Youhana (GEO News). This is quite interesting to see as Youhana and Inzimam (2 TOP Pakistani batsmen) are the victim of bad umpiring throughout the tour till now.

What can ICC do? What are the possibilities? Lets say ICC finds that both decisions were wrong, can they call Youhana and Inzi to bat again or this will end with just a lame warning to Umpire(s)?

This also reminds me of “Steve Buckner”, who was the CENTER of the STAGE about a month ago with every Average Joe in Indian media was talking about “how in-competent Buckner is” and that “How India LOST to BAD umpiring”. I re-visited the same media and not a SINGLE sentence about the decision of ODIS and Yesterday’s game. Only thing I was able to find was “Youhana and Inzimam were UNHAPPY… “

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Pakistan filed the official complain against the umpiring decision made against Inzimam and Youhana (GEO News).

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perfect. finally they've figured out the right way to fight this problem. well done Pak team management.

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Good that they filed complaint. I don’t think that any of the batsmen can be reinstated after they have left the field. I remember once an umpire gave Saeed Anwar wrong LBW, he realized it later and mentioned in an interview later but there was no way for him to reverse his decision.

PS: Stop looking at other nation’s website/media to support our complain of “bad umpiring”, why would or should they cry for our pain? Its our job, and let us do it the way we want :snooty:

I think this is best way to go about it. There is a system in place and it should be used.
Simon Toufel has very good reputation. He is considered best these days ...better than Shephard and Billy bowden. This is first time he has been in controversy.

Having said that I think Inzi's decision was a bad one but Youhana's was ok.

Talking of Medi. I think rediff,TOI,BBC have reported it in thier match report.

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Good that they filed complaint. I don't think that any of the batsmen can be reinstated after they have left the field. I remember once an umpire gave Saeed Anwar wrong LBW, he realized it later and mentioned in an interview later but there was no way for him to reverse his decision.

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But i remember Attapattu calling AUS batsmen (i dont rem the name) back after Umpire tell him that he think the decision was wrong and its was in very recent series.

Just curious. If the umpires know that Pakistan has filed a complaint against them, while a test match is in progress.. will they be more careful in making borderline decisions against Pakistan, or they will think "screw you!".

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Just curious. If the umpires know that Pakistan has filed a complaint against them, while a test match is in progress.. will they be more careful in making borderline decisions against Pakistan, or they will think "screw you!".
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They better don't tilt to "screw you", otherwise they'll be screwed even though it could mean a game to us but their career will be in jeopardy.

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Just curious. If the umpires know that Pakistan has filed a complaint against them, while a test match is in progress.. will they be more careful in making borderline decisions against Pakistan, or they will think "screw you!".
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Well.. When Steve Bucknor knew that Ganguly is pissed he chose 2nd option in Sydney test. But then everyone is different. I dont think Simon Toufel will like to tarnish his image even more.

On the flipside.. I think Pakistani supporter shouldnot feel bad.Steve bucknor is coming in next test match ..he will compensate. ;)

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On the flipside.. I think Pakistani supporter shouldnot feel bad.Steve bucknor is coming in next test match ..he will compensate. ;)
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itni jaldi kia hai bahanay bananay ki? :p

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Well.. When Steve Bucknor knew that Ganguly is pissed he chose 2nd option in Sydney test. But then everyone is different. I dont think Simon Toufel will like to tarnish his image even more.

On the flipside.. I think Pakistani supporter shouldnot feel bad.Steve bucknor is coming in next test match ..he will compensate. ;)
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There we go :)

Teh batsmen cannot be called back. Teh decision is final and history now. However now that the complaint has been filed ICC will look into it and it will go against Taufel. Each umpire's performance is reviewed now and if this sort of decisions continue than eventually he will lose his status as an international umpire.

The decision against Inzi was awful.

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Talking of Medi. I think rediff,TOI,BBC have reported it in thier match report.
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Rediff said Yoyo was out with a faint edge and Inzamam's dismissal was "inconclusive on tv replays".

This is hardly fair reporting.

Hey… Give them some credit. Atleast they didnt say " it was good decision"..come on it is Indian site. They are catering to their customers. :p:

confirmed.

I’m disappointed that a legal complaint wasn’t lodged and this was only an informal report. But Inzi still has the opportunity to smoke Taufel when he does the post match review which I hope he will avail (fingers crossed).


**Poor umpiring reported to ICC referee **

From our correspondent

MULTAN: The Pakistan team management have drawn the attention of match-referee Ranjan Madugalle to the contentious decisions given by Australian umpire Simon Taufel against Inzamam-ul-Haq and Yousuf Youhana on the third day of the first Test against India.

Sources close to the team management confirmed that the attention of the match referee had been drawn to the two decisions and the effect they could have on Pakistan’s chances of saving the match.

“Manager Haroon Rasheed and coach Javed Miandad told Madugalle they were not happy with the two decisions given by Taufel which came at crucial times,” the source said.

Taufel gave Inzamam out caught bat and pad off Anil Kumble when he was batting superbly on 77 runs and it ended a 160 runs stand with Yasir Hameed.

Then, as Youhana had set up another good stand with Abdul Razzaq he was given out caught behind off Zaheer Khan when the ball appeared to have brushed his thigh pad going down the leg side.

“The Pakistan management reminded Madugalle that Inzamam and Youhana were the team’s most experienced batsmen and their dismissals at crucial stages badly affected the team and brought the other players under pressure,” the source said.

Under the International Cricket Council (ICC) Code of Conduct players and team officials cannot comment on any decision of the umpires or match-referee.

But privately they are allowed to discuss any contentious decisions with the referee to submit their complaints. The source said the team management had not made any official complaint but had alerted Madugalle.

“My wicket was crucial and it upset our balance,” Inzamam said when asked about his dismissal at the post-day conference. Inzamam refused to comment when asked if he had anything to say on the contentious decisions given against him and Yousuf Youhana by Taufel, but added: “I can’t say anything under the code of conduct. But you all have seen it on television, judge for yourselves,” he added.

Meanwhile Inzamam still believes his team is capable of salvaging a draw against India in the first Test match dominated so far by the visitors. “It is not going to be easy. But I think we have batted well and positively in the match and we can save the follow-on and the match on the next two days,” he said.

Pakistan are still trailing by 311 runs to India’s first innings total of 675 for 5 at close on the third day of the Test. Pakistan lost their sixth wicket of Moin Khan on the last ball of the day requiring another 112 runs to save the follow-on. “It is not that we have batted badly today. Everyone tried hard and made an effort. But when you are facing a total of 675 runs, even 364 appears small. But we have not adopted a negative approach and will remain positive,” he said.

The Pakistan captain admitted he was disappointed with the flat pitch prepared for the match and believed the curators were not able to prepare what they had wanted.

“But for the second Test we will have a livelier wicket because we need a hard and bouncy pitch to support our bowlers. There is still a long way to go in this series.”

He didn’t believe that India held a psychological edge over his team after winning the one-day series and notching up a massive total in the Test.

"No. There is no edge. We have the capability of coming back in this series. I just think it is a matter of time before our bowlers regain their form and bowl to a proper line and length.

So far the batsmen have supported them well."

Inzamam, who is also a member of the triple hundred club after his 329 against New Zealand in April 2002 at Lahore, paid rich tributes to Virender Sehwag’s effort of 309 runs on the second day.

“Anyone who scores 300 runs is doing something unusual and magnificent. He played really well although I think our bowlers didn’t bowl well on the first day.”

Referring to Sachin Tendulkar remaining undefeated on 194 after Indian skipper Rahul Dravid closed the innings on Monday evening, Inzamam said if it had been his player he would have allowed him to score a double hundred.

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which makes it even more crucial that india tries and wins this test.

talking of umpiring errors, i feel we should all have the intellectual honesty to go after umpires no matter who is playing, not just when it's our team at the recieving end. it's hypocracy to say 'players must respect umpires' then moan when you see your key player getting out. i bet a lot of people here had fun seeing pak take 4 wkts off 4 no balls when they played england in england, but now that the shoe is on the other foot they can't stand it. similarly we indians should not rejoice that we got inzi out cheap because tomorrow it can be sachin or shewag who get's the stick. IMO apart from 2-3 umpires they all suck.

Pak team mang should go after this aggressively so it does not happen again!!!

btw why dont they use 3rd umpire in these types of decisions where they feel its 50/50 chance???

3rd umpire is only for chillin in the executive box
not to mention puff /\/\/\/

one would assume with all tb replays etc he would be used for such close calls ..../

  • According to Cricinfo it’s official protest. Dont know what that really means. Is an offical complaint different then offical protest ? Does anyone know *

Pakistan lodge umpiring complaint

**Pakistan have registered an official protest with Ranjan Madugalle, the match referee, after two key umpiring decisions went against them on the third day of the first Test at Multan. **

The Pakistanis were incensed by the dismissal of Inzamam-ul-Haq, who was well set on 77 when Simon Taufel gave him out, caught at forward short leg by Aakash Chopra off the bowling of Anil Kumble. And Taufel again raised the ire of the Pakistan camp when Yousuf Youhana was given out caught behind while attempting to flick a delivery that slid down the leg side.

Slow-motion replays suggested that Inzamam had not touched the ball, although in the case of Youhana it was difficult to ascertain whether or not he had got a touch - even after several replays it was not possible to say with any certainty that he had in fact hit the ball. With this being the case the Pakistan team believe that the benefit of doubt should have been given to the batsman.

The Pakistanis contend that these two decisions had a significant effect on the course of play. Inzamam and Youhana – captain and vice-captain – are the most prolific batsmen in the team, and both were well set on a flat track when they were given out.

Emotions are running high after India’s narrow 3-2 victory in the one-day series, and these two crucial decisions have stoked the fires of discontent within the team and its officials.