How can any Pakistani Muslim complain about how Muslims are treated elsewhere, when a vast majority of them don’t respect minorities? Right wing Islamist, supported by Moderates, are against a Hindu temple proposed to be built in Islamabad. Some hide behind the pretense that it is all government funding related. Which is either lazy or dishonest. Because the Islamists do not want the temple to be built at any cost. The link below shows how other minorities are treated in Pakistan.
To those Pakistani Muslims who whine about treatment of Muslim elsewhere, here is a simple question, Have you no shame?
“According to the constitution and the penal code, Ahmadis may not call themselves Muslims or assert they are adherents of Islam. The penal code bans them from preaching or propagating their religious beliefs, proselytizing, or “insulting the religious feelings of Muslims.” The punishment for violating these provisions is imprisonment for up to three years and a fine. On February 7, the government of Azad Jammu and Kashmir amended its interim constitution to declare Ahmadis non-Muslim“
This news is enough to refute your claim that Islamists or right wingers are against the construction of the temple since no one is more right winger or Islamist than molvies and clerics. It is as if Hindu pundits come forward to support the construction of a masjid in India (which never happened in past and would never happen in future as well even in southie’s dreams)..
The issue of ahmadies is a complicated one which you with average mindset would never understand. Ahmadies and Muslims both consider each other non-Muslims but since Islam was founded in 7th century way way before ahmadiyat, that’s why some laws are made to protect the copy rights of Muslims. But no ahmadi has ever been punished on the charges of copy rights violations or doing tableegh in Pakistan to date since these laws are superficial in nature and are made just to draw a line. As i said this is a complicated issue which you living in US would never understand, so shut up. The bottonline is, the condition of Minorities in Pakistan is way way better than India, though more work needs to be done in this regard.
1- Let’s assume for a moment that Pakistan treats its minorities horribly. Still Pakistani Muslims have the right to complain about mistreatment of Muslims elsewhere.
2- For years Indian government dragged its feet over the Kartarpur corridor. PML-N officially proposed it in 1999. Pakistan offered many solutions in subsequent years, all were rejected. Finally Pakistan had to waive even the requirement to carry a passport. Then Indian central government made problems for Indian Punjab so the corridor agreement could be scuttled. From terrorism to polio, no stone was left unturned by the Indian government to throw a wrench. All the effort was done by Pakistan to facilitate Indian Sikhs so they can access their holy sites easily. Finally the corridor opened in November 2019. But then Indian security agencies started harassing Indian Sikhs returning back from the visit. And now Indian government is using Corona virus as a lame excuse to keep Indian Sikhs from visiting despite Pakistani offers to re-open it. All that just goes to show how scared Indian government is of its own minorities and how big hearted Pakistan is to non-Muslims despite its very limited resources.
3- There is an old Iraqi saying, “if two fish fight in Tigris, the British are behind it”. The Ahmedis issue is something like that. They were a creation of the British to corrupt Islam during their colonial rule on the subcontinent. Pakistani law prevents them from doing so, otherwise they have all the rights afforded to other non-Muslim citizens.
Sir both countries treat their main population worse than animals also
, general populations are suffering immensely. I was just talking to a friend from India and he described a very bad life for general public there. I assume it is even worse in Pak
You flatter yourself sir, Pakistan’s GDP is lower than Walmart’s yearly revenues, why would anyone conspire to hurt s place which is in the path of civil wars, ethnic cleansing etc?
“very well” in the topic is as vague term here as it can get. Highly unquantifiable. I dont even wana go to compare it with India cuz ofcourse India is in the hands of fanatics. But in so many areas even countries like US dont treat the minorites “very well”.Forget China, Myanmar etc.
Its just ironic how someone from indian orgin sitting many oceans apart from Pak is complaining about minorities treatment in Pak. I suggest take a trip and look for yourself there. A couple of links cannot provide a true insight.
Unless you are saying “very well” means equivalent to the treatment of majority, Pakistan does treat its minorities wayyyyy better than most of countries on world map.
Southie, how dare any Indian point fingers at others when his own government is following Nazi ideology and kills and tortures innocents on a daily basis.
Sharm nahin ati?
The audacity of you to act like this on a Pakistani forum and the fact that you have been giving that space to do so says a lot about our mentality.
Man I wish I logged on earlier. Southie, these conversations will just be more finger-pointing and whataboutism. There is never a time to discuss how the Pakistani government or the Sunni-Muslim majority population treats religious minorities because there will always be "b-b-but what about India? B-b-but what about the US?"
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Southie, how dare any Indian point fingers at others when his own government is following Nazi ideology and kills and tortures innocents on a daily basis.
Sharm nahin ati?
The audacity of you to act like this on a Pakistani forum and the fact that you have been giving that space to do so says a lot about our mentality.
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Southie, how dare any Indian point fingers at others when his own government is following Nazi ideology and kills and tortures innocents on a daily basis.
Sharm nahin ati?
The audacity of you to act like this on a Pakistani forum and the fact that you have been giving that space to do so says a lot about our mentality.
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Funny how the forum is registered in a non Muslim country, you and your loved ones and friends live in a non Muslim country and spew hatred on a society that spends hundreds of millions on welfare of people who think they would be deserving of paradise by hurting people and their society. Sharam
A few bigots are not representative of our society so don’t act like a self appointed spokesperson for Pakistanis. I know hundreds who are standing up for human rights and are of the opinion that both countries need to work on human rights.
Are Balochs considered minority? How about a guy like Rao Anwer who killed 400 people in Karachi
Show me one police officer on planet who murdered 400 people?
