Pakistan disabled girl arrested for blasphemy

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if they hadn't arrested/ taken in custody......she would've been killed.......good thing done by the police....they could've easily be byestanders and let her be killed.

Oh ffs!

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I hope she reunites with her family soon!

this law has been long misused, mostly just to settle personal scores or family fueds. ideally this man-made law should have been scrapped, but given the atmoshphere in Pakistan, atleast the govt can make some changes into this?

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There is a Qazaf provision....according to which the person who accuses falsely is liable to punished...if a couple of such punishments are carried out by the govt. i think those who misuse it will think twice before doing anything like this.

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This sort of thing really makes Islam, and Pakistan look like an out of date culture, only Muslims and Pakistanis can do something to change its image. Its good to see the posters on this thread find this whole episode abhorrent but sadly there are plenty of people who support these laws.

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You have to be mental retarded yourself to accuse a mentally disabled girl of ANY crime let alone blasphemy, as it can be seen from the article looks like someone was trying to find an excuse to kick them out, very sad.

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The Quranic pages somehow got in to garbage, then these were collected by an unfortunate 11 year old Down Syndrome girl, and then she ( the 11 year old with Down syndrome) used those pages to cook something at her house, and then someone entered her house and accused her for desecrating the Quranic pages.

So far this has been the essence of situation of this sad story reading this thread.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/21/world/asia/christian-girls-blasphemy-arrest-incites-a-furor-in-pakistan.html?_r=1&smid=tw-share

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The arrest and imprisonment of a Christian girl accused of violating Pakistan’s blasphemy laws stoked a public furor on Monday, renewing international scrutiny of growing intolerance toward minorities in the country.

The police jailed the girl, Rimsha Masih, and her mother on Friday after hundreds of Muslim protesters surrounded the police station here where they were being held, demanding that Ms. Masih face charges under Pakistan’s blasphemy laws. A local cleric had said Ms. Masih had burned pages of the Noorani Qaida, a religious textbook used to teach the Koran to children.

By Monday night, as Pakistani Muslims celebrated the feast of Id al-Fitr, Ms. Masih and her mother were being held in Adiala jail, a grim facility in nearby Rawalpindi, awaiting their fate. Meanwhile, a number of the girl’s Christian neighbors had fled their homes, fearing for their lives, human rights workers said.

Senior government and police officials agreed with Christian leaders that the accusations against Ms. Masih were baseless and predicted that the case would ultimately be dropped.

Still, the case has already grabbed global headlines and inspired a hail of Twitter posts, even though several details are in dispute.

Christian, and some Muslim, neighbors said Ms. Masih was 11 years old and had Down syndrome. Senior police officers dismissed those claims; one described her as 16 and “100 percent mentally fit.”

Whatever the truth, experts said Ms. Masih’s plight highlighted a wider problem. “This case exemplifies the absurdity and tragedy of the blasphemy law, which is an instrument of abuse against the most vulnerable in society,” said Ali Dayan Hasan of Human Rights Watch.

While non-Muslims have long been vulnerable to persecution in Pakistan, the state’s ability to protect them is diminishing. Last week, gunmen executed 25 Shiites after taking them off a bus near Mansehra, in northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa Province. On Saturday, Hindu leaders in Sindh called on the government to protect their community from forced conversions by Muslim extremists.

But it is the emotionally charged blasphemy issue that has most polarized society. Ever since the governor of Punjab Province, Salmaan Taseer, was gunned down by his own bodyguard in January 2011 for his support of blasphemy reforms, the space for public debate has narrowed in Pakistan.
Violent mobs led by clerics have framed the argument, as appears to have happened in Ms. Masih’s case.

Neighbors said the girl’s family were sweepers — work shunned by Muslims but common among poor Christians — and lived in a slum area in Islamabad.
Malik Amjad, landlord of the family’s rented house, said the controversy started early last week after his nephew saw Ms. Masih holding a burned copy of the Noorani Qaida. The nephew informed a local cleric, Khalid Jadoon, Mr. Amjad said.

Desecration of Muslim holy texts is illegal in Pakistan and punishable by death. But Mr. Amjad said the incident bothered few local residents initially and caught fire only at the instigation of the cleric and two conservative shopkeepers.

“He tried to shame people by saying, ‘What good are your prayers if the Koran is being burnt?’ ” Mr. Amjad said.

Mr. Amjad said he handed the girl over to the police for her own protection and criticized the cleric’s role. “He exaggerated the incident and provoked people,” he said.

It was not clear how, or even if, Ms. Masih had come across the burned religious book. One neighbor, Malik Shahid, said it might have simply become accidentally swept up in a trash pile she was collecting.

The Pakistani police often are forced to register blasphemy cases against their wishes, human rights campaigners say, either to save the accused blasphemer or their own officers from attack.

In July, a large crowd, prompted by inflammatory statements from local mosques,swarmed a police station in Bahawalpur district in southern Punjab, searching for a blasphemy suspect who was being interrogated by police. The mob seized the man, beat him to death and burned his body outside the station.

A similar mob attack occurred in June in Karachi, Pakistan’s most populous city, although in that case the police beat back the protesters.

The turmoil comes just days after Pakistanis marked the country’s 65th independence anniversary amid muted ceremonies and considerable soul-searching across the political spectrum.

“Desecrating graves, arresting 11 year old with Down syndrome, targeting of Shias — the list goes on. This is not what r religion is about,” Shireen Mazari, a staunch nationalist commentator, said on Twitter.

The adviser to the prime minister on national harmony, Dr. Paul Bhatti, said he hoped to defuse Ms. Masih’s situation through talks with moderate Muslim leaders. Dr. Bhatti is the brother of Shahbaz Bhatti, a minister for minorities who was gunned down outside his Islamabad home in early 2011, weeks after Mr. Taseer’s death.

Even if Ms. Masih avoids blasphemy charges, her family is unlikely to ever return home. Although nobody has been executed under Pakistan’s blasphemy laws, even suspected blasphemers are in danger for the rest of their lives.

Several have been killed by vigilantes; others have been forced to flee Pakistan.

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This is insane ....

so now Noorani Qaida has become Quran...?? ...

Noorani qaida is just a tutor type of thing ,basically used to teach Arabic , keeping the context of Quran in view , nothing more then that...

I Agree with Pakistanimard , that there is a Qazf provision for the punishment of false accusations I think , ..that should be enforced with full force , 20-30 false accusers should be punished , also provision should be added that any one who accuses should aromatically be booked under the false Accusation law too , ... if he can prove , fine Ok , but if he cannot prove then he should be punished and more severely . for misusing is a bigger crime

and punishing false accusers will be the real deterrent in the misuse of the LAWS

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Exactly, I just read the article above and now we are putting "noorani qaida" next to Quran wow... next time a Chrisitian burns ANYTHING with Urdu/Arabic alphabets these ch--- ke bachay will say "blasphemy, he/she is burning basic alphabets of Quran".

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bas aik baat samajh nahin aayi!! 11 year old disabled larki ke hath main Quran aaya kahan se??

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^ Quran nahin tha, noorani qaida tha...some people claim that maybe she had got it from the trash or something, she was a christian I am not sure if she even knew what it was. She tried to use it to light the stove and was caught for blasphemy.

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The law itself should be taken away? who are we to judge? its a shame what country has gotten to?

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sad....very sad situation.
I hope that this is straightened out in favour of the poor girl and her family.
People that provoke this sort of reaction should be punished severely for their role in the whole thing.

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even if it was a Noorani Qaeda, it values..because it helps us learning Quran!! Secondly TRASH?? I dont get it!! :disgust: this should be cleared where she got it from!!

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Value it Please!! It helps us learning Quran..

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The people dont have any sense, they dispose of Quran in rivers and drains which ends up in sewerage in some cases, but if someone by mistake burns it he is booked for blasphemy.

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^a wrong action (or actions) doesn't allow other wrong actions to happen!!
things that can be stopped/ avoid, should be stopped/avoided!!
Not specifically talking about this girl because until now, haven't read about the issue in detail but here I am talking general!

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The mobs need to be handled on two levels:

1) They need their religious ring leaders to be replaced with proper ulema - media can help with this
2) They need the full force of riot police and mob investigations - CCTV investment

The reason why this behaviour is getting out of hand is because the Pakistani authorities do not know how to handle "mobs" - the way to handle them is to pick them out one by one - they need cameras first ...

It needs to be made clear that "law" is not in the hands of "mobs" - rather to form and create a mob is itself a criminal act ... "law" and "governance" needs to remain in the hands of the "government" ... Ring leaders and psuedo-religious hatred mongers need to be picked out and dealt with - if not during the event of the riot - then after ... when all people return to their houses and resume a normal life again ... the problem is I get the horrible feeling that the authorities are scared of the mobs ... that is pathetic !!!

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Unfortunately, matters of religion have become tools in the hands of apparently religious yet godless people. Authorities even at very high level dread taking actions against these criminals. They fear being branded as enemies of Islam and thus fear even losing their lives or at least peace of mind.

In the subject case, it seems that all this was done on purpose for not so religious motive may be for getting hold of the land being occupied by those christians.