Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

Not a good idea…I think.

Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

ISLAMABAD: The year 2011 has been a tumultuous one for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, caught as it was in the stormy waters of Pak-US relations that saw one foreign minister walking out of the government as well as the Pakistan Peoples Party, to be replaced by a new one. Yet the Ministry remains steadfast in its resolve to continue to pursue a foreign policy based on national interests, sovereignty and dignity.

Shah Mehmood Qureshi became the second foreign minister in history after the late Agha Shahi to walk out of his FO job. The United States was the common denominator in both cases.

2011 saw Pak-US relations coming crashing down, beginning with the Raymond Davis episode early this year and ending with the Salala aerial attack at the end of the year. Will 2012 be any different?

“It is necessary to rewrite our bilateral terms of engagement as this will be good for both countries since policies based on realistic and shared objectives would be far more tenable than a relationship facing frequent strains because of opaqueness and unilateral actions,î the spokesman at the Foreign Office told the weekly media briefing while summing up the events of the year. ìWe want our relations with the US to be based on mutual respect, trust and interest. Yes, bilateral relations saw many ‘ups and downs’ but Pakistan is trying to put the relationship back on track and make it transparent and in sync with our aspirations.î

Looking back, Pakistan felt it had reason to be satisfied that its foreign policy continued to be steered by security and development. “We vigorously pursued these objectives concomitantly on bilateral, regional and international planes,” said the spokesman.

Pakistan says its relations with China attained newer heights where the two countries signed a $1.6 billion Currency Swap Agreement, renewed the Five-Year Economic and Trade Cooperation Plan involving projects worth $14 billion and signed four agreements worth US$809 million for infrastructure and energy projects. “China will continue to be a cornerstone of Pakistan’s foreign policy for aeons to come. We take great pride in this unique and time-tested relationship,” the spokesman remarked.

2011 saw rhetoric against India being dialed down to a great extent with Pakistan hoping that the dialogue process was uninterrupted and result-oriented, leading to resolution of all issues, especially the Jammu and Kashmir dispute in accordance with the aspirations of the people of Jammu and Kashmir. “It is essential to keep the Thimphu spirit alive,”, said the spokesman.

When asked to comment on conditions of the people of Jammu and Kashmir, the spokesman said that Pakistan reiterates its position that this dispute should be resolved according to relevant UN resolutions. “Meanwhile, it is important that the overall situation improves for the people of Jammu and Kashmir. We support their legitimate aspirations and there is a debate going on in India as well to this effect. The people of Jammu and Kashmir are against the Public Safety Act, the Disturbed Area Act and the Armed Forces Special Powers Act. One hopes that these black laws will be revoked in order to improve the overall situation,î added the spokesman.

However the spokesman said Pakistan was aware of the two nuclear submarines that India was acquiring. “We are looking at these developments very closely. Rest assured, there will be no compromise in terms of maintaining the credibility of our deterrence,” said the spokesman.

Meanwhile, Pakistan’s embassy in Indonesia is in touch with local authorities in Surabaya and Bali to deal with the deceased Pakistanis. “The Chief of Hazara tribe, Sardar Saadat, would be arriving in Jakarta tomorrow morning. 103 dead bodies have been recovered, mostly decomposed. It is therefore very difficult to establish their identity. Our embassy is working over time to facilitate the identification of the bodies through DNA etc. So far, not a single dead body has been identified as being of Pakistan national. The process of identification may take 2 to 3 weeks. Once identification is established we would start transferring bodies to Pakistan. Our Embassy was in touch with seven survivors. 5 of them are not willing to return to Pakistan. The other two are willing to come back to Pakistan, and the Embassy is in the process of making necessary arrangements,” said the spokesman.

APP adds: Refuting the impression that Pakistan and United States are not on talking terms, the FO spokesman said, “We are on speaking terms with US and trying to put our relations back on track.”

Giving an overview of Pakistan’s foreign policy during 2011, the spokesman said Pakistan had adopted a comprehensive foreign policy that enhanced its image among the international community. He said Pakistan was elected a non-permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, which indicated its importance in the world.

PPI adds: To a question about the Iranian nuclear issue, he said Pakistan always supported Iranís right to peaceful use of nuclear technology. Answering a question, he said Pakistan wanted to complete the Pakistan-Iran gas pipeline as quickly as possible.

He said Pakistan’s relations with EU countries and G-8 countries had also moved forward. He said a five-year Pakistan-EU engagement plan has been finalised and the enhanced Pak-US strategic dialogue was launched during the visit of British Prime Minister to Pakistan.

The spokesman said Pakistanís relations with Russia were fast improving and President Asif Ali Zardari had paid official visit to Russia and talks with Russian leadership covered new plans of bilateral cooperation.

Online adds: To a question regarding the violation of Iranís air space by the US and the formerís reaction as well as Pakistan’s policy in this connection, he said that Pakistan believed in a peaceful solution of the nuclear issue of Iran.

On Pakistanís stance regarding inquiry report pertaining to the NATO attack against Salala, the spokesperson said that Pakistan was assessing the report and would make public its view after fully analysing it.

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

why do u think this is a bad idea ?

if a nation is weak others will abuse it, so why should a nation not become strong?

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

I dont understand whats the noise about Iran's nuclear weapons. If they want to acquire them good on them, who are the Americans to stop them from doing that? In the end every one has the right to defend themselves in case of aggression including iran.

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Looks like you got overrun by emotions. There is absolutely nothing new in this statement. It has been an official and stated policy of the country, acknowledged, accepted and adopted worldwide. Every single country under the sun has the right to “peaceful use of nuclear technology.” It’s just like saying every country has right to have electricity or hospitals :cb:

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^^^ And how do you know Iran's intentions are peaceful? Btw, Iran having nukes means it would be a direct threat to Pakistan's interest b/c Iran is Pakistan's strategic competitor in the region.

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

I know Iran’s intensions are not peaceful. But Pakistan isn’t saying it wants Iran to develop a nuke bomb. Don’t be confused by the headline of The News, it’s wrong. FO only said that Pakistan supports Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear technology. It did not say it supports nuke bomb for Iran :nono:

Strategic competitor in which sense? Fil’hal to Irani gas nahi aai to ghar pe roti pakna band ho jaey gi merey bhai :@:

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

I don't think the statement means much and we should read too much into it.

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Pakistan should not support Iran Nuclear program. Don’t you guys think Pakistan/India are enough for this region?
UAE is already working on there Nuclear power plant, probably Saudi Arabia will join the rush too.

The worst scenario will be all the wahabi’s/shia with nukes :smack:

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

Yeah thats bad... but the worlds gotta end someway...

Ones inclinded to blame those who invented the Nuke in the first place... for the Nuke is the modern Pandoras box.

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

That is very true, and not to mention by supporting Iran (given its stature in international political forum), Pakistan's own credibility would further go down the drain. When are the foreign policy makers of Pakistan going to start thinking from their brains rather than from heart?

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

Pakistan's liking or disliking means absolutely nothing in any decision they make. Pakistan can not even import energy from Iran only because Americans are not giving it the approval. Even though Pakistan is in dire need of energy.
The only country that actually matters in Middle East for decisions such as this is Israel.

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

Remember this is exactly what they said about Pakistan from the 1980s till we tested our nukes. They specifically wanted to keep the nukes out of Muslim hands and they are doing their very best to make sure that happens. Every single NATO country has the ability to develop nukes and considering NATO has attacked 3 different nations in the past 10 years I do question their intent with all these discussions of regime change.

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

^agreed now they r threatening argentina with nuclear submarine in falkland row

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

and how do you know america, britain, france, russia, india etc etc and israels intentions are peaceful?

iran's nukes cannot be threat to pakistan, its just balance of power, which results in stability instead of instability. a state which feels weak is likely to act more aggressively to protect her interests, as compared to a nation which feels at par with other stakeholders, and that is exactly what is keeping pakistan and india out of war.

no nuclear armed state has ever been attacked on mainland with an open declaration of war...

this is good stance on pakistan's part. i'm all for my iranian brothers going nuclear

Re: Pakistan backs Iran’s nuclear bid

You have to give it to the Americans, they create hype (about false threats) and then sell weapons to the neighbors, they have recently signed billions of dollars worth of military hardware to upgrade Saudi arabia's and UAE's defence forces against Iran.

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Pakistan is not helping Iran to get nuclear weapons neither Iran needs Pakistani help at present. According to A Q Khan (in his recent interview on TV), Pakistan only passed Iran addresses of suppliers in west who could provide enrichment technology to Iran and equipments to enrich uranium. Rest was matter between suppliers and Iran. What Iran does with nuclear technology they obtain from those suppliers should be no concern of Pakistan.

Secondly, it seems Iran already got from western suppliers whatever is needed to become nuclear power. Most likely Iran already has nuclear arsenal, and is not declaring themselves nuclear power just like Pakistan was not declaring even though Pakistan had nuclear capability since 1984 and reasonable nuclear arsenal before nuclear test. [Reason for Iran not declaring their nuclear capability could be their being signatory to NPT that restricts them from becoming nuclear power].

Well, even if there is concern for Pakistan than what? Pakistan is no world power defending Pakistani military superiority that Pakistan would get worried if another country becomes nuclear power, be that country neighbour or country far from Pakistan. Actually, Pakistan has 4 neighbours, 2 (China and India) are already nuclear power. Both became nuclear power regardless of Pakistani concern or no concern.

On the other hand, even if Pakistan decided to stop Iran becoming nuclear power, than what Pakistan could do? Simply nothing, just like India, Israel and America wanted to stop Pakistan becoming nuclear power but were incapable of doing anything. Pakistan is not even in position to put sanctions on Iran, rather fact is that, in this respect, Iran can harm Pakistan in many ways but Pakistan cannot. Here is how Iran can harm Pakistan if they want to:

At present, Pakistan depends on Iran for all their electricity requirements in western Baluchistan and that includes Gwader port. Further, Pakistan is also getting huge supply of refined oils (petrol and diesel) from Iran. Part of these oils Iran imports and then subsidise for local consumption, so whatever gets smuggled into Pakistan Iran exchequer loses. These oils help Pakistani economy saving huge amount of foreign exchange.

I think, Pakistan main concern should be not Iranian nuclear programs but how to obtain (import) Iranian energy resources (gas, oil as well as electricity) to meet our need, and land access for Pakistani export to destinations in western world , middle east and central Asia that Iran could provide. Further, Iran is progressing fast in developing new technologies, including defence technologies, and it would be helpful for Pakistan to see what Pakistan can get from Iran in this respect.

In past, Pakistan only received help from Iran and provided nothing in return. For instance: Iran was the first country that recognised Pakistan as independent country in 1947. Further, in both wars between Pakistan and India (1965 and 1971), the country that practically helped Pakistan most was Iran, more than any Muslim country, rather any country.

**1965 War: **During 1965 war America imposed sanction on Pakistan acquiring arms and spare parts what Pakistan needed badly. Most of Pakistani as well as Iranian arms were American made. Even though America put sanctions on Pakistan, Iran helped by supplying required arms to Pakistan from their arsenal not only breaking sanctions but also breaching end-user clause that country agree when purchasing weapons.

India–Pakistan war of 1965 - Wikipedia

[Pakistan and the United States had signed an Agreement of Cooperation in 1959 under which the United States agreed to take “appropriate action, including the use of armed forces” in order to assist the Government of Pakistan at its request. However, following the start of the 1965 war, the United States was of the view that the conflict was largely Pakistan’s fault and therefore, it cut all military supplies to the country. However, Pakistan did receive significant support from Iran, Indonesia and People’s Republic of China.]

**1971 war: **In 1971 war, Karachi (Pak) sea port was under siege. Pakistan Navy was under pressure and needed safe sea port. Iran provided their sea port facilities (especially at Bandar Abbas) to Pakistan. Some of Pakistani aircrafts defending Karachi were also using Iranian air bases. Iran also supplied several aircrafts and other equipments to Pakistan war effort.

Further, in 1966 Iran bought 90 Canadian made F-86 (Sabre) from Germany and transferred them to Pakistan. Those aircrafts became mainstay of Pakistan air force and helped Pakistan dominate air over battle fields in 1971.

http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/assets/pdf/e_CanadairSabre6.pdf

[Check page 6 of the report related to Canadian made Sabre:

The second major conflict that involved Canadian SABREs was the Pakistan-India war in 1971. In January 1966 Germany sold 90 of its Canadian Mk. 6 SABREs to Iran.

**These aircraft were quickly transferred to Pakistan and became the main day of the Pakistan Air Force. **In the ensuing conflict with India, the SABRE quickly established air superiority over the battlefield area. This was accomplished in spite of India’s superior aircraft numbers and the acquisition of the new supersonic MiG-21s by the Indian Air Force]

So what is there to complain?

For future, one should read article below and think:

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