Re: Pakistan ‘backed Haqqani attack on Kabul’ - Mike Mullen
Here is a little more about ISI’s semi-criminal enterprise the notorious ‘S’ Wing.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
A US official said blah blah blah
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
The Haqqani gang and LeT, both are official mercenary Divisions in the Pak Army, each about 15000 soldiers dressed in civilian clothes. They get their wages from ISI and their families get pension from ISI, if they get killed in operations. Both the Divisions are under tight control of ISI, and they can not carry out any operation unless ISI orders them to do so. The ISI 'S' Division recruits, trains and funds these two terror groups, and provides them logistical support and strategic advice. Depending upon the geopolitical situation, the ISI deactivates and reactivates the trainng camps for these jihadis. Out of about hundred odd terror training camps, 43 terror training camps adjoining Abbotabad region have recently been reactivated by ISI. Apart from the trainings imparted in these camps, on specialized need basis, training is also provided in regular Military Training centres. For example the 26/11 attackers of the LeT were provided Marine Commando Training in Pakistan Navy Training Centres by a Pakistan Navy Frogman. The 26/11 Mumbai attacks, Parliament attacks, numerous attacks in J&K and Indian Embassies in Afghnistan, etc were all carried out after the ISI ordered those attacks. These two groups are nothing but a mercenary force of the Pak Army for asymmetric and proxy warfare against the neighbors of Pakistan.
Seems like ISI shared this highly sensitive information with you.
Re: Pakistan ‘backed Haqqani attack on Kabul’ - Mike Mullen
The same American officials a few years ago had irrefutable proof that Iraq had WMD, and we know if an American official says it has to be true just like they were about the WMD.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
what did kiyani have in lunch today?
Don't know about Kiyani but I know this yamahahaha guy has been eating lot of fruitcake lately
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
The Haqqani gang and LeT, both are official mercenary Divisions in the Pak Army, each about 15000 soldiers dressed in civilian clothes. They get their wages from ISI and their families get pension from ISI, if they get killed in operations. Both the Divisions are under tight control of ISI, and they can not carry out any operation unless ISI orders them to do so. The ISI 'S' Division recruits, trains and funds these two terror groups, and provides them logistical support and strategic advice. Depending upon the geopolitical situation, the ISI deactivates and reactivates the trainng camps for these jihadis. Out of about hundred odd terror training camps, 43 terror training camps adjoining Abbotabad region have recently been reactivated by ISI. Apart from the trainings imparted in these camps, on specialized need basis, training is also provided in regular Military Training centres. For example the 26/11 attackers of the LeT were provided Marine Commando Training in Pakistan Navy Training Centres by a Pakistan Navy Frogman. The 26/11 Mumbai attacks, Parliament attacks, numerous attacks in J&K and Indian Embassies in Afghnistan, etc were all carried out after the ISI ordered those attacks. These two groups are nothing but a mercenary force of the Pak Army for asymmetric and proxy warfare against the neighbors of Pakistan.
Whats the lotto number for tonight?
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
some radicalized segment supporting 26/11 terroists, I can understand. But what would Pak military as an institution want to have kasab come and shoot up Mumbai? It will be a net strategic loss because it will make Indiana security stronger due to response action, and it will simply make Pakistan look bad, as it did.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
If Pakistan military have any links with Haqqani network then they'll be fool not to use them against TTP , MQM & in Balochistan .
Re: Pakistan ‘backed Haqqani attack on Kabul’ - Mike Mullen
For all the fruitcakes who believe Pak Fauj is not supporting Afghan Taliban..
Zafar Hilali a Pakistani diplomat for 30 plus years, tells on Dunya TV (Crossfire with Meher bukhari), that its beneficial for Pak Fauj to have links with Afghan Taliban and Pak Fauj should openly accept that Haqqanis are our Assets…He insists that Pakistan should stop double games and being a hypocrite. And should openly own its assets.
listen from 7:30 to 10:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WhSIzFXxW0&feature=related
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
^Thats not a proof of ISI orchestrating attack on Kabul. Try again and go back to searchign google.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
Just for a minute, suppose ISI is secretly backing Haqqani and with this backing US is facing huge problems in Afghanistan what would be the scenario if US gets into full war with Pakistan.. then ISI won't need to hide its operations, NATO won't be getting supplies, Pakistan with the help of allies would be providing whatever support they can to Talibans and resistance fighters and i seriously doubt then any DRONE would be able to fly and there would be very few NATO-US soldiers would see their country again...
And if India Jumps to help US in that war, then one thing is certain, the whole world can forget about the South Asia.....
So to US and its supporters, cut the crap, get to work, you cannot win this war, the more you stay the more they'll attack you, you were not invited in these lands, you have to leave, if you decide to leave now, you will be able to walk later you stay longer, your economy will suffer more and more...
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
^Thats not a proof of ISI orchestrating attack on Kabul. Try again and go back to searchign google.
No no no any bideo accusing big bad evil ISI is proof, concrete proof, solid proof, proof without a shadow of a doubt only it is NOT proof if the bideo is bout India, than it is a lie, even wikileak becomes wikilie. See how easy it is to solve a case by Indian fruitcake detective.... :)
Re: Pakistan ‘backed Haqqani attack on Kabul’ - Mike Mullen
Keep on googling and you will eventually find something. better still trawl through the Indian sites and you will find a lot of crap there.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
And get our own soldiers killed in the process, bit difficult to digest. Conspiracy theories galore.
You should take the time out to visit those areas. The people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa have a very low opinion of the Pakistan Army because of the games they have played. Many people have lost their lives not because of America's incompetence but because of elements within the ISI/Pak Army play double games.
There are many Swatis in the UK most will even give you many saimilar stories.
Since when did the greedy Army Top Brass care for the ordinary soldier? These poor low level brave jawans are just cannon fodder for them. Thye are replaceable. It has alays been the case.
If those greedy Amy Top Brass cared for the jawans or the awams in general they would give up their vast retirement perks for them.
That will never be the case.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
I have heard the American military being called many things, but incompetent is not one of them.
I am sure they are too busy fighting the Taliban that attack them personally, than to go after some apparent Taliban who attack Pak Army - who help 'different' Taliban attack the US.
Let's not put our head in the sand about the role of the ISI in helping some Taliban attack the US, and the consequences that can have for the whole country.
There are many things I disagree with you on but I agree with what you said about that. The rumours even within Pakistan about Quetta being a base for Taliban has been going on for a long time. Many locals have even claimed it.
Whatever is going on the last 12 months have been a PR disaster fro Pakistan. The Americans are very likely to take physical action against Pakistan in the next 12 months. Pakistan will suffer badly as our Army leaders are cowards - they have a comfortable life at the expense of the poor - such people cannot do any barve deeds.
I fear that Pakistan as a country could be split. The Americans are seeing Pakistan as a trouble maker. Ethnic strife in Pakistan is increasing. Nationalism is on the rise. I wish our greedy inteligence and military leaders stop eating the country up.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
Just for a minute, suppose ISI is secretly backing Haqqani and with this backing US is facing huge problems in Afghanistan what would be the scenario if US gets into full war with Pakistan.. then ISI won't need to hide its operations, NATO won't be getting supplies, Pakistan with the help of allies would be providing whatever support they can to Talibans and resistance fighters and i seriously doubt then any DRONE would be able to fly and there would be very few NATO-US soldiers would see their country again...
And if India Jumps to help US in that war, then one thing is certain, the whole world can forget about the South Asia.....
So to US and its supporters, cut the crap, get to work, you cannot win this war, the more you stay the more they'll attack you, you were not invited in these lands, you have to leave, if you decide to leave now, you will be able to walk later you stay longer, your economy will suffer more and more...
You are forgetting the Taliban were also not invited to these lands. The Taliban were never voted into power. They came in power through force.
You are forgetting that at least half of Afghanistan must support the USA and its war against the Taliban. The Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras who might constitute somewhere from 30-50% of Afghanistans population have openly supported the USA against the Taliban.
Even a significant proportion of Afghan Pashtuns support the USA against the Taliban. It is hard to say how much support the Taliban have in Afghanistan but it is probably going to be less than half population wise.
The Taliban can fight back well because they are armed and organised well. Without ISI support the Taliban would no longer be here.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
^Now suddenly ISI has achieved such supernatural powers that it can defeat combined NATO forces through a proxy. BTW all the bull**** you have written above is without any proof.
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
Which bits are not without proof?
Were the Taliban voted into power?
The fact that less than half of Afghanistan might support the Taliban when you look at the breakdown on basis of sect and ethnicity?
Re: Pakistan 'backed Haqqani attack on Kabul' - Mike Mullen
What sects in Afghanistan are you talking about?
Re: Pakistan ‘backed Haqqani attack on Kabul’ - Mike Mullen
Do the Haqqani’s even need Pakistani support, to do what they do?