Pakistan arrests CIA informants

Good. Only if we can find out how many more people are on CIA payroll we might have peace in the country. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/15/pakistan-cia-informants-idUSN1425374320110615

Pakistan arrests CIA’s bin Laden informants-report

WASHINGTON, June 14

WASHINGTON, June 14 (Reuters) - Pakistan’s top military spy agency has arrested five CIA informants who fed information to the U.S. spy agency before the raid last month which killed Osama bin Laden, The New York Times reported on Wednesday.
One of the detainees was reported to be a Pakistani Army major whom officials said copied license plates of cars visiting the al Qaeda leader’s compound 30 miles northwest of Islamabad.
The fate of the CIA informants arrested in Pakistan is unclear, the newspaper reported, citing American officials.
Outgoing CIA Director Leon Panetta raised the issue of the informants’ detention during a trip to Islamabad last week where he met with with Pakistani military and intelligence officers, the newspaper said.
Some in Washington see the arrest as another sign of the deep disconnect between U.S. and Pakistani priorities in the fight against extremists, the Times reported.
The United States kept Islamabad in the dark about the May 2 raid by Navy SEALs until after it was completed, humiliating Pakistan’s armed forces and putting U.S. military and intelligence ties under serious strain.
Last week, at a closed Senate Intelligence Committee briefing, Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell rated Pakistan’s cooperation with the United States on counterterrorism operations a “three” on a scale of 1 to 10, the Times reported, citing officials familiar with the exchange.
Other officials cautioned that his comments did not represent the administration’s overall assessment, the newspaper said. “We have a strong relationship with our Pakistani counterparts and work through issues when they arise,” CIA spokesman Marie Harf told the newspaper.
“Director Panetta had productive meetings last week in Islamabad. It’s a crucial partnership, and we will continue to work together in the fight against Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups who threaten our country and theirs.”
Asked about the Times report, a CIA spokeswoman neither confirmed nor denied it and said she had no further comment.
Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States, Husain Haqqani, was quoted as saying that the CIA. and the Pakistani spy agency “are working out mutually agreeable terms for their cooperation in fighting the menace of terrorism. It is not appropriate for us to get into the details at this stage.” (Reporting by JoAnne Allen; editing by Todd Eastham)

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So it was inside job as usual, a serving army major was copying license plates.. voila. How low it can be? But indeed on the other hand at least something is working in Intelligence Agencies which came to arrest of these traitors, hang them. Going with the trend, hopefully in near future we will hear about busting of CIA informants at all scales to be curtailed.

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^^

These traitors should be killed. no mercy for them...

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Does it mean that army knew about OBL?

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Nope sir it means trying to get your house in order.

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nah, I think the informants were arrested to get a piece of bounty money.

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Yes, allow terrorists to operate in your country, continue to try and play both sides, see what kind of peace that brings the country. Those billions of dollars given to Pakistan was not a handout.

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Interesting. i just realized that osama had 25 million bounty on him. someone got very rich.

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Will the same taleban become innocent after doing a peace deal with Americans?

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:snooty: about time … about time…

Now I want to see arrest warrant for M— C------ husain haqqani…

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I am cent percent sure that keeping up with the shameless and spineless behavior of our security establishment, one phone call from US will result in the release of these informants along with the pakistani officers personally offering apology for disturbing america's agents.

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Leahy blasts Pakistan for bin Laden operation arrests

By Tom Vanden Brook, USA TODAY[/h] Updated 53m ago |

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WASHINGTON — A top Senate Democrat branded Pakistan as a “putative ally” after officials there arrested Pakistanis who helped the U.S. operation to kill Osama bin Laden.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., made the comment during a sharp exhange with Defense Secretary Robert Gates who was appearing before the Senate Appropriations defense subcommittee.
“How do we support governments that lie to us?” Leahy asked Gates.
Most governments do lie to us, even friendly ones, Gates replied

Do they arrest those who helped us? Leahy countered.
“Sometimes,” Gates answered.
“Not often,” Leahy snapped.

Gates was making his final appearance on Capitol Hill as the nation’s top military office before retiring at the end of the month. His comments were the first public acknowledgement by U.S. officials of the Pakistan arrests.
The Pakistani army denied Wednesday that one of its majors was among a group of Pakistanis who Western officials say were arrested for feeding the CIA information before the raid that killed bin Laden.
The New York Times, which first reported the arrests of five Pakistani informants Tuesday, said an army major was detained who copied license plates of cars visiting the al-Qaeda chief’s compound in Pakistan in the weeks before the raid.
A Western official in Pakistan confirmed that five Pakistanis who fed information to the CIA before the May 2 operation were arrested by Pakistan’s top intelligence service.
But Pakistani army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas denied an army major was arrested, saying the report was “false and totally baseless.” Neither the army nor Pakistan’s spy agency would confirm or deny the overall report about the detentions.
Gates, while not directly confirming the reports, said the arrests are a reflection of the harsh realities of today’s world. “Sometimes they send people to spy on us, and they’re our close allies,” he said. "That’s the real world that we deal with. "
Gates and Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, both said the cost of abandoning or ostracizing Pakistan would be high.
Pakistan’s nuclear capability and instability in the region raise the risks further, Mullen said.
If we walk away from Pakistan, as happened in the late 1980s and early '90s, Mullen said, the U.S. will be forced to return in a decade “in a much more difficult situation.”
Also on Wednesday three American missile attacks killed 15 suspected militants on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border.
The U.S. does not publicly discuss drone strikes in Pakistan, but officials have said privately that they have killed several senior al-Qaeda and Taliban commanders. More than 200 attacks have taken place since 2009.
The raid that killed bin Laden on May 2 angered the Pakistani army and parliament, which demanded an end to the strikes.
Contributing: Associated Press

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A very good analysis and I’m sure will make some of the army-lovers happy :slight_smile:

Why Has Pakistan Targeted Informants Who Helped Track Bin Laden?
By OMAR WARAICH / ISLAMABAD – Wed Jun 15, 11:50 am ET

                            In the days following the raid that discovered and  killed Osama bin Laden, Pakistan's top spymaster recalled that he had  long made his feelings plain to his American allies. Where the two  countries' interests meet, Lieut. Gen. Ahmed Shuja Pasha told a select  group of journalists, there would be co-operation. But where the U.S.'s  interests were deemed to be acting against Pakistan's own, it would be a  very different matter. "We'll not help you," the head of Pakistan's  Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) 

[quoted himself]
(http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/time/wl_time/storytext/08599207783800/41869699/SIG=11v6kjvtb/*http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2069920,00.html) as telling his American counterparts. “We’ll resist you.”

             Now, Pasha seems to be making good on that promise.  Stung by the embarrassment of bin Laden's discovery in a garrison town  just two hours away from the Pakistani capital, and the humiliation of  the U.S. carrying out a unilateral raid, the ISI has apparently gone  after the Pakistanis who helped them pull it off. Five Pakistani  informants, including an Army major, who furnished the CIA with crucial  leads about bin Laden's compound have been taken into custody by the  ISI, the *New York Times* reported.


             The Pakistani military angrily denies that a major -  reported to have tracked the license plates of cars visiting bin Laden's  compound - has been taken into custody. But a Pakistan army officer  says that some 30-to-40 civilians in total were being interrogated, some  of whom were released on Tuesday. And there is speculation that the  detained major, thought to be an army medic, may have been the occupant  of a house near bin Laden's compound, where a nameplate said that the  property belonged to a Major Amir Aziz. The nameplate was later taken  down.

             The move against the informants appears to be an  attempt to stand up to what the ISI sees as American unilateralism and,  in particular, an unauthorized expansion of the CIA's footprint in  Pakistan. The ISI, says a senior Pakistani official, is "trying to lay  down the rule that the CIA does not operate independently in Pakistan."  Beyond the humiliation of bin Laden being discovered a mere kilometer  away from Pakistan's equivalent of West Point Academy, the Pakistani  security establishment has been angered by widely-voiced but unproven  suspicions of complicity.  Bhttp://cp.timeinc.net:8080/content_tool/images/minimize.gifut what  appears to have angered the powerful generals most is the lack of trust  displayed by the unilateral raid - and the strategic vulnerability that  it exposed.
             At the time of the raid, senior Western diplomats in  Islamabad predicted that the Pakistani security establishment would  react in two ways. To efface the shame of the bin Laden raid, it would  try and demonstrate its commitment to fighting al-Qaeda and other  Islamist militants on its soil. Yet, aggrieved for the same reasons, the  generals were seen just as likely to react aggressively in less helpful  ways. The roundup of the informants and others suggests that more  emphasis is being laid on being seen to stand up to the U.S. 


             Since the Raymond Davis affair, when a CIA contractor  unknown to the ISI killed two Pakistani men in the city of Lahore in  January, Pasha and his boss, Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani  have been keen to minimize the CIA and US military's presence in  Pakistan. Last week, they expelled a group of U.S. military trainers who  had been invited to the country to help enhance the counterinsurgency  capabilities of Pakistani troops fighting militants in the tribal areas  along the Afghan border.

             Pasha has long been angered by what he sees as an  uncontrollably expanding and independent CIA footprint in Pakistan. At  the same May briefing with journalists, the embattled spy chief  complained indignantly that his spies were on the verge of being  "outnumbered" by foreign agents. It's a scenario that spookily echoes  the theme of David Ignatius' latest spy thriller, *Bloodmoney*. In  the novel, the fictionalized ISI chief learns of a new capability being  run by the CIA beyond his knowledge. "It was an insult," Ignatius  writes. "The ISI chief had considered whether he should do something to  hurt the Americans back."
             Reality is now rivaling fiction as relations between  the two spy agencies plunge to fresh depths. The informants' arrests  come on the heels of the CIA's allegation that the ISI may have  tipped-off militants based at bomb factories in Waziristan. [As first reported on TIME.com](http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/time/wl_time/storytext/08599207783800/41869699/SIG=11ubga80k/*http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2077103,00.htm),  CIA chief Leon Panetta (and the likely successor to Defense Secretary  Robert Gates) traveled to Pakistan last Friday to confront Pasha with  satellite images showing the militants flee the two sites within 24  hours of the CIA passing on their location to the Pakistanis. When  Pakistani troops later arrived at the facilities used for the  manufacture of improvised explosive devices, the pro-Afghan Taliban  militants were long gone. The *Times* reported that it was at the same meeting with Pasha that Panetta raised the arrests of the informants. 



             Such alleged failures at intelligence sharing and  action against militants who attack U.S. forces in Afghanistan are what  led President Barack Obama to clear the intensification of CIA  operations in Pakistan. Shedding the reliance on the ISI, Obama charged  the CIA to proceed independently. One manifestation of that change of  policy was an intensification of drone strikes, which almost daily  continue to target suspected militants in the tribal areas along the  Afghan border. Despite the Pakistan Army and government's loud  denunciations of the covert program, they have not tried to put a halt  to them.
             By striking a defiant nationalist pose, Pasha may be  hoping to stanch the wave of pressure that has been piling on his  institution, and his own position, over the past month. The ISI chief  had offered to resign on three occasions. The Pakistani military as a  whole has been made the focus of unprecedented criticism from civil  society campaigners, journalists and opposition politicians. There is  also tremendous pressure from below, with the military's lower ranks  registering anger at the U.S. in the wake of the bin Laden raid.
             And yet, for others, there was always an element of  inevitability about the ISI's relations with the CIA. "They have been  deteriorating for a long time," says retired Lieut. Gen. Asad Durrani, a  former ISI chief. "With every such event, they take a nosedive. It's  not surprising. We did not have the same objectives, and we didn't have  the same strategies."

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Ok, the ISI goons did not know that OBL was hiding in Abottabad since 2005 but they can figure out in 1 month who helped to get OBL!
Just amazing!
I like to repeat what Jon Stewart said: " If Kakul were Dominos Pizza, they would have delivered to OBL on foot!" . How true!
The only thing all those people caught should be charged with is derailment, derailing the khakis gravy train, the train that has been chhooing since 9/11 .

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It's good they were captured. People working for foreign secret agencies are nothing more than the traitors of Pakistan. They should be punished as traitors.

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and whn are they releasing them?? :(

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How is it true? Because Jon Stewart said that? A comedian whose job is to make people laugh by hook or by crook?

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khoji,
I am just pointing out how ridiculous this whole drama-bazzi put on by the khakis is. I also "some what" agree that it is good that the people who helped CIA with OBL raid should be at least removed from service.
However, how can the khakis NOT investigate why the world's number one wanted man was found in abottabad? Dont u think it was the most embarrassing for the pakistan as a nation? Or taking revenge for khakis humiliation due to OBL raid is all that matters?
Khakis are servants of the people first, not the other way around.

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May be such an investigation is in process. I don't know.
Everyone here knows how much I am against extremism in Pak, and how much I criticize ISI and army for their distinction of good and bad Taliban. You should see my comments against ISI in the thread about Shahzad Saleem.
Also I am very happy that OBL is dead one way or another.

But after everything is said, we still can not support people who work for foreign agencies for money. This time around their help to CIA was for our good as well, but who knows what other secrets they might provide to CIA which will hurt Pak?!

So what I said was as a matter of principle only.

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Why does it sound familiar to not so long ago history of our military men saying “we surrounded militants and then we were encircled by militants” :smiley:

So when CIA informed ISI of the whereabouts of the factory, did their intelligence go to sleep after that? Why could they not track the movement after that? or may be that was false information to begin with, now that reminds me of bombing of a pharmaceutical unit in Kenya.

Dude, when you shove a “war” down someone’s throat there will always be “give and take”, now take that.