Pakistan and the threat of extremism -Turning Point?

Is it really a turning point? Maybe not, as the public is still divided between two distinct camps. PPP, MQM, ANP being on one extreme and PTI, PMLN, JI and JUI on the other side. The solution of the issue could be between the two positions. I don’t think any one has the solution (including the army) to the menace, and it would be a daunting task for any one to accomplish. Its an existential threat for Pakistan and needs to be sorted out asap, a political consensus needs to be developed as a first step as to how we should proceed ahead.

Pakistan and the threat of extremism: Turning point? | The Economist

MANY say they now realise it has taken a 14-year-old schoolgirl to teach Pakistan the meaning of courage. Back in 2009 Malala Yousafzai began chronicling the dark grip of the Pakistani Taliban on her homeland, the pretty Swat valley in the country’s north. She had a clear-eyed conviction that girls had a right to an education, something the Taliban did their best to prevent, even after their local rule was broken in an army offensive. She called the Taliban “barbarians”. On October 9th the barbarians took their revenge, shooting her in the head. She is now in a British hospital, in Birmingham, with a specialist unit for war injuries. Doctors are impressed by her resilience.

**Back home, says Nusrat Javed, host of a popular political show, “Malala has liberated Pakistan.” Pakistanis have voiced unprecedented anger against the Pakistani Taliban, calling for the peaceful majority to reclaim the country’s destiny from gun-toting, head-chopping extremists.

The question is whether political, military and religious leaders have Malala’s gumption. Most condemned the attack without condemning the Pakistani Taliban. A few went further. The army chief, General Ashfaq Kayani, who had already taken a more aggressive stance against extremists in recent months, sounded ready for action. After visiting Malala in hospital in Pakistan, he said: “We refuse to bow before terror. We will fight, regardless of the cost. We will prevail.”**

The obvious military response would be to go after the Pakistani Taliban in their stronghold of North Waziristan, part of the lawless tribal areas that border Afghanistan. The United States has long urged the army to go after extremists there. The government coalition, led by President Asif Ali Zardari’s Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), also proposed a resolution calling for (presumably military) “practical measures” in response to the attack on Malala.

It is all starting to look like the high-water mark of courage. No national consensus exists about whether to fight the home-grown Taliban or, in some unexplained way, to make peace with them. On October 16th the main opposition party, led by a former prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, opposed the government’s resolution, demanding proof that earlier military operations had not weakened the country rather than strengthened it. The PPP balked, and dropped its proposal. With an election due in the next few months, politicians of all stripes are cautious about advocating operations against extremists that could result in a violent blowback across Pakistan.

Besides, the army appears not to have a plan and rationale for going into North Waziristan. Past military operations in the tribal areas, including in Swat, have not cleared them of extremists. The operations were often half-hearted, leaving the tribal people deeply cynical of the army’s intentions. After all, the army has long used jihadists as its proxy warriors. Awkwardly, the leadership of the Swat branch of the Pakistani Taliban is based not in North Waziristan but in Afghanistan.

And now, stung by the opprobrium, the Taliban is lashing out. Pakistani journalists are under serious threat, while international news organisations are lying low or scaling back their operations in Islamabad, the capital. A smear campaign by religious conservatives has begun against Malala, painting her as some kind of “American agent”. And on October 15th over 100 Taliban attacked a police station near the north-western city of Peshawar. After killing the local police chief and five of his men, they sliced off his head and took it away as a trophy.

Re: Pakistan and the threat of extremism -Turning Point?

No way to 'make peace with them'.

How to go about eradicating them is the question.

Re: Pakistan and the threat of extremism -Turning Point?

It is only a matter of time. Let the scum eat away at the govts pocket book, and then see what happens. Kill as many soldiers as you want, kill children, women, elderly who gives a Sh1t.. But as soon as the politicians and generals have to compromise on their budget... Well then!
Lets see how things shape up after the Americans leave and the Pak establishment has to deal with choosing between their Western donors, the Taliban and the Afghan Govt. Cant fool the world forever.

Plus with elections coming up, you cant trust half the garbage that leaves their lips.

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Definitely not a turning point — just a matter of shame and a window to the psyche of the nation which is unprecedentedly divided against itself. We have set no cutoff for aberrance, be it politics or religion.

By the way, the second camp has one more group — the military. But you are right that no one seems to have a clue, including the army.

In my opinion, solution can come from the same place wherefrom the problem has come. Military cannot win you the war, tribals can. We can reinforce them with our military might. But resistance against militants and post-resistance situations must be led by tribals themselves.

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PPP, MQM and ANP is a political alliance, not a camp. ANP and MQM are slitting each others throats in Karachi, and PPP is watching the show, so they are far from a camp. Malala is a convenient point scorer for them, so no surprises there, plus, they need fodder for the upcoming elections.
PTI, PML-N, JI and JUI are not a united camp either. For one, I dont see any of them 'supporting terrorism' or 'supporting Taliban'. The only point being raised against them is the lack of intensity with which they have condemned (or not condemned) Malala's shooting....as 'condemnation' is the in thing these days.

I personally dont think that Malala's incident will bring about any change in the way things are happening. Its not as if she will be making Pakistan's foreign policy and internal security decisions. The only change can be brought about by the government taking a firm line, and following it consistently, rather than having one leg in america's foreign policy, and the other leg in domestic politics.

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Unfortunately, it is not the turning point. The former group lost the battle of public opinion and the latter group won.
After listening to opinions of common people on street, both educated and uneducated, I have come to conclusion that majority of Pakistanis believe in some sort of conspiracy in this story. So Taliban (religious extremists) are still good guys. All media hype about Malala has failed. And Taliban-apologist propaganda from PMLN, PTI, JI, and JUI has won.

It is not the turning point. There will be no turning point. Pakistan's future lies with, what I consider, "extremism". Of course, majority does not consider it extremism at all.


BTW, just to make one thing clear. If anyone thinks that people from Karachi do not belong to this camp of Taliban, JI, JUI, PMLN, and PTI; then they are totally wrong. Remember that Karachi was the only big city in Pakistan which voted for JI before MQM came in.
My guess is that MQM will also fall into the camp of PMLN, PTI, JI, and JUI; after Altaf dies/eliminated.

It is not the turning point. There will be no turning point. Pakistan's future lies with, what I consider, "extremism".

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^ If thats how the people in Karachi think, how come MQM wins in the elections every time?

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It's just my guess. I hope I am wrong. With people like Farooq Sattar, Haider Abbas, Khwaja Izharul Hassan, Mustafa Kamal, MQM might stay the same as it is now.
But I am saying that people from Karachi are as vulnerable as people from other parts of the country when it comes to supporting conspiracy theories and extremism. They are not doing it presently because they mostly follow MQM, which in turn happens to be secular. But if tomorrow MQM changes its stance on secularism, then people won't leave it only because of that.

MQM's original rise was not because people were fed up with extremism of JI or that they loved secularism or liberalism. Rather they originally supported MQM because MQM was the first party to raise voice about the sense of alienation and deprivation which people were feeling in 80s.
I think it is only accidental that Altaf has secular thinking. Otherwise it were the same Karachiites who first started sectarian riots in the country in 1983.

But all these stories are old and not significant or relevant anymore. So no point discussing.