Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
^ the presidents looted money is in Switzerland and not in our banks. Besides Pakistani judiciary is biased, hopefully the Swiss will serve justice.
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
People had lots of differences with Obama's policies. Never ever heard of any American using profanity, third class language against him unlike in this forum too. This reflect on their mentality and the way they have been brought up.
Have you heard of billions of dollars of scams in US when their people are dying of poverty and hunger? And Obama posting incompetent and corrupt people on key posts? People suffering at the hand of worst load shedding, lawlessness, joblessness, hyper inflation but the governments lavish expenditures are still going on?
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
^ the presidents looted money is in Switzerland and not in our banks. Besides Pakistani judiciary is biased, hopefully the Swiss will serve justice.
Why are you so sure? What proof you have regarding this? Present this to CJ and let the case be tried in Pakistan rather than spending billions in this stupidity.
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Who Gives a Damn !
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Why are you so sure? What proof you have regarding this? Present this to CJ and let the case be tried in Pakistan rather than spending billions in this stupidity
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I am as much sure as the president claiming that he didnt own Surrey property.
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What do you know about America? Daily people die because of lack of medical coverage, drugs, shelter and other criminal activities. More than 1 millions children are lost every here. I don’t know what are you talking about?
Read before you write.
20 Facts About Child Hunger And Child Poverty That Will Break Your Heart
**20 Facts About Child Hunger And Child Poverty That Will Break Your Heart**
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/20-Facts-About-Child-Hunger-And-Child-Poverty-That-Will-Break-Your-Heart-250x166.jpgDid you know that nearly half of the 44 million Americans that are on food stamps today are children? Did you know that more than a fifth of all U.S. children are living in poverty and that a fourth of all U.S. children are enrolled in the food stamp program? Did you know that most of the people that starve to death around the globe are children? In 2011, child hunger and child poverty are major problems in the United States and they are at epidemic levels in many areas of the world. The facts that are you are about to read are tough to stomach and they are meant to break your heart. Most of us need to be touched on an emotional level before we will take action. As I have written about previously, the world is on the verge of a horrific global food crisis. Unless a miracle happens, there is not going to be nearly enough food for everyone in the world in the future. We all need to prepare so that we will be able to feed our own families when that time comes and so that we will be able to be generous and share with others in need.
The food stamp program is the modern equivalent of the old-fashioned bread lines. Today, the number of Americans on food stamps is absolutely exploding. Despite claims that the economy is “recovering”, the number of Americans relying on food assistance just continues to increase.
Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
^ ok sorry, I guess Pakistan is a jannat then as compared to the US. Any corruption scandals against Obama?
By Alastair Lawson in SurreyOut of the many allegations of corruption that have emerged from Pakistan over the last few years, perhaps one of the more unusual concerns a mansion in Surrey in south-east England.
Last month, the Pakistani military government asked the British home office for paperwork relating to the purchase.
At the same time, builder Paul Keating has launched court action to recover more than $300,000 for refurbishment work carried out at the house, known as Rockwood Park.
Mr Keating says the work was carried out on behalf of the London agent of Asif Ali Zardari, husband of former Pakistani premier Benazir Bhutto.
Unpaid bills
The front entrance to the house is covered in ivy and holly. There is a large parking area in front.
With a total of about 20 rooms it is set in a substantial estate of 365 acres, including two farm, lodgings and staff accommodation.
Builder Paul Keating has spent seven years refurbishing Rockwood House, now estimated to be worth in the region of $8mn.
The trouble for him is that no-one is prepared to pay the bills for his work on the unoccupied mansion.
Mr Keating believes the responsibility ultimately lies with Asif Zardari, the husband of the former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.
He says Rockwood was bought by Mr Zardari in the early 1990s through an offshore company called Romena Properties.
But the company has no registered shareholders.
So Mr Keating is now suing a business associate of Mr Zardari for the costs of renovation.
Extravagant taste
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Inside the mansion, Mr Keating showed me an an Italian table ordered by Mr Zardari through the interior designers, made in Italy and shipped over to Rockwood House.
He estimates that it costs approximately $120,000.**
He now has no idea of what will happen to the table.
“[In] the master bedroom, the ceiling is created to achieve an evening sky with stars in it. The lights represent the stars,” Mr Keating said.It was designed to reflect Mr Zardari’s taste, he said.
Paul Keating said, as far as he was aware, Mr Zardari visited Rockwood three or four times, staying only for very short periods.
“I would describe him as flamboyant, eccentric,” he said.
**Denial
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**Both Mr Zardari and Benazir Bhutto staunchly deny owning Rockwood.
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**They say that the many allegations of corruption made against them - including the purchase of Rockwood - are politically motivated lies.Both have been found guilty of corruption in their home country, where Mr Zardari is currently in prison.
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His business associate in Britain, Javaid Pasha, denies any responsibility for the refurbishment work and is trying to have Mr Keating’s case against him thrown out.
Meanwhile in Surrey, residents of the village of Brook, near Rockwood, seem unperturbed by the wrangles going on over the property.“There are a lot of famous people who live in this area, so it’s just another neighbour more than any thing else,” said Chris Morris, the landlord of the Dog and Pheasant pub, a few 100 yards down the road from Rockwood.
“When I first arrived here, there were a couple of carpenters came in and actually copied the bar in the cellar up at Rockwood because they couldn’t buy it,” Mr Morris said.
But in Pakistan there is much interest in the mansion and who owns it - a subject of much speculation in the Pakistani press.
“They actually call it Surrey Palace. They don’t know what Rockwood Estate is, maybe for the reason that the former government of Nawaz Sharif presented it as Surrey Palace,” said Aamir Ghauri, a Pakistani journalist working in London.“So Surrey Palace is a household name in Pakistan. People believe that because Asif Zardari was linked to so many other allegations of corruption, they 100% believe that this is their property,” he said.
The Pakistani press may be in no doubt about who owns the property, but back in Britain, the builder Paul Keating is just one of the of the people keen to see the question resolved once and for all.
Inside Benazir Bhutto’s looted palace: The home of the late Pakistani leader is for sale at £7.5m
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
Most Pakistanis: Sky is falling, sky is falling
Western Media: There are now serious concerns in the streets of Pakistan if sky is going to fall.
Most Pakistani: Western media, paid by lobbies, is propogating a negative image of Pakistan.
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
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Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
perception is created by media, poll is taken by media… whats new? 
Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
1999 news. aor kitnay garhay murday ukharho gay. Where is suo mota of CJ on this 13 years old news? 
Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
Check out what government is doing regarding letter to Swiss
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
1999 news. aor kitnay garhay murday ukharho gay. Where is suo mota of CJ on this 13 years old news? :)
So has the news changed after 13 years? the Swiss scandal is also 13-14 years? Should we forget about that and move on carrying out mega corruptions (which the government is doing btw, if SC does something about that start raising hue and cry and playing the Sindh card)?
Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
Meri Nazar mein agar Pakistan na hota to mein bhi na hota 
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
So has the news changed after 13 years? the Swiss scandal is also 13-14 years? Should we forget about that and move on carrying out mega corruptions (which the government is doing btw, if SC does something about that start raising hue and cry and playing the Sindh card)?
Aren't those days were N$ peak time with heavy mendate? He was bound to destroy PPP and its leadership. His NAB head who fabricated these cases were tried for 11 years with no results. I am forgetting his name who was instrumental and right hand of N$. He ran away to Qatar and installed pre fabricated structures factory there, investing looted money from Pakistan. Why I should believe such a criminal person? I don't understand logic behind it.
gin ke haath rishwat aor chori main khod baray howay hain woh doosron par kaisay ilzaam laga saktay hain. You gave the example of Obama, the people who are watching Obama, are not corrupt. Judges are not bikao mall here.
Re: Pakistan among ‘most negatively perceived’ countries: BBC poll
aap zaroor hotay magar Indian kehlatay.
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
Aren't those days were N$ peak time with heavy mendate? He was bound to destroy PPP and its leadership. His NAB head who fabricated these cases were tried for 11 years with no results. I am forgetting his name who was instrumental and right hand of N$. He ran away to Qatar and installed pre fabricated structures factory there, investing looted money from Pakistan. Why I should believe such a criminal person? I don't understand logic behind it.
gin ke haath rishwat aor chori main khod baray howay hain woh doosron par kaisay ilzaam laga saktay hain. You gave the example of Obama, the people who are watching Obama, are not corrupt. Judges are not bikao mall here.
One of those cases was Surrey mansion which has been proved, and the other is the Swiss case which has already seen one PM vanish.
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Hopefully this case is solved asap as Sarkozi’s immunity has ended almost a month ago.
‘Bribes and bombs’ scandal returns to haunt Sarkozy - Europe - World - The Independent]('Bribes and bombs' scandal returns to haunt Sarkozy | The Independent | The Independent)
A political scandal is gathering pace over claims that 11 French submarine engineers were murdered in a bomb attack in Karachi seven years ago to punish France for the non-payment of arms contract “commissions” to senior Pakistani officials.
**Lawyers for the French victims’ families believe the attack, allegedly carried out by Islamist terrorists, was in fact part of a web of financial chicanery and political manoeuvring which may yet severely embarrass senior figures, including the French President Nicolas Sarkozy and his Pakistani counterpart Asif Ali Zardari.
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Two French magistrates investigating the bombing of the engineers’ bus in May 2002 have ruled out the possibility that it was an attack by al-Qa’ida on Western interests. They have told the victims’ families there is “cruel logic” to an alternative explanation. They believe unknown figures in the Pakistani establishment may have fomented the attack in retaliation for the non-payment of part of the €80m (£68m) in sweeteners promised to senior officials when Lahore bought three Agosta 90B submarines from France in 1994.
Documents seized by French police allege that part of these “commissions” – legal under French law at the time – were illegally “kicked back” to help finance the 1995 presidential campaign of the then prime minister, Edouard Balladur. When Jacques Chirac won the election the following spring, it is alleged that he punished his old friend and acolyte for running against him by cancelling the remaining payments to senior Pakistani figures.
M. Chirac’s then defence minister, Charles Millon, confirmed in an interview with Paris Match magazine yesterday that, soon after he took office in 1995, he was ordered to block the Pakistani commissions and all other arms payments on which “retro-commissions”, or kick-backs to France, were suspected. When the €800m submarine sale was negotiated, M. Sarkozy was the budget minister and M. Balladur’s right-hand man. He was also a key figure in the then prime minister’s decision to break with M. Chirac that autumn and run for the presidency the following spring. There is no direct evidence linking him with either the legal commissions or the alleged illegal kick-backs but, as budget minister, he would have had to sign documents authorising large, untaxed payments to foreign officials.
**According to investigation documents leaked to the Agence France Presse news agency, a large part of the €80m was paid out before M. Chirac intervened and had already been “distributed” by the then Pakistani investment minister, Asif Ali Zardari. Mr Zardari, husband of the late prime minister, Benazir Bhutto, is now President.
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The legal implications of the affair are unclear but the political implications could be explosive. If clear evidence emerges to link the submarine commissions to the killing of the 11 French engineers and three Pakistanis, there would at the very least be deep embarrassment for M. Balladur, M. Chirac and for President Sarkozy.
When asked about the suspicions of the two French investigating judges, M. Sarkozy flew into a temper. He said any suggestion that the murders were a Pakistani retaliation for non-payment of French commissions was a “fable”. “This is ridiculous. It is grotesque,” he added. “Let’s have some respect for the grief of the victims. Who could believe a fable like that?”
The answer is that the “fable” is being taken seriously by the victims’ families, lawyers and the investigating judges, Marc Trévidic and Yves Jannier. “The al-Qa’ida line of inquiry has been totally abandoned,” said Maître Olivier Morice, a lawyer for seven of the families, after meeting the judges in Cherbourg, where the engineers were based. “This is all linked to the payment of commissions… they were blocked by Jacques Chirac to prevent kick-backs to the presidential campaign of Edouard Balladur. This is turning into a [state scandal].”
On 8 May 2002 – just after M. Chirac won a second term as president – a bomb exploded in Karachi beside a bus transporting French shipyard workers who were assembling one of the Agosta submarines. Fourteen people were killed, including 11 French workers. Both Pakistani and French authorities blamed Islamists close to al-Qa’ida, but it appears that US intelligence agents told Paris at the time that the attack was linked to blocked payments on the submarine contract. A self-confessed militant, Asif Zaheer, was convicted in 2003 of playing a part but his conviction was quashed on appeal last month.
The investigating judges are said to believe that M. Chirac’s re-election convinced figures in Pakistani they would never receive their missing money – hence the timing of the attack.
In a speech at a remembrance service for the dead shipyard workers in Cherbourg in June 2002, President Chirac said France would not surrender to “blackmail” – a word which caused some puzzlement at the time.
**The key figures: 15 years ago and now
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Edouard Balladur, 80
THEN Centre-right prime minister in cohabitation with the Socialist president, François Mitterrand. Ran for presidency in 1995 but was knocked out by Chirac in first round.
ROLE It is alleged in documents seized by French police that his campaign – quite possibly without his knowledge – benefited from illegal kickbacks.
NOW Retired.
Jacques Chirac, 76
THEN Mayor of Paris and leader of the centre-right RPR party. Ran for the presidency in 1995 for the third time and won.
ROLE As president, he ordered the cancellation of the Pakistani “commissions”, allegedly in pique against M Balladur.
NOW Retired.
Charles Millon, 63
THEN Chirac’s defence minister in 1995.
ROLE Admits he cancelled Pakistani commissions on Chirac’s orders.
NOW Faded from mainstream politics.
**Asif Ali Zardari, 53
**THEN Minister in government of his wife, Benazir Bhutto, who was murdered in 2007 after she returned to Pakistan.
**ROLE Alleged to have “distributed” part of the commissions paid by France, which were legal under French law.
**NOW President of Pakistan.
Re: Pakistan among 'most negatively perceived' countries: BBC poll
The negative impression does not require everyone in the country doing something crazy. Its few crazies mullahs shouting "death to America/Nato....(fill in blank)" while drinking Pepsi are responsible for creating negative image of Pakistan. Of course, it does not help when govt/army/courts are in bed with jihadist...who want global dominance through use of terrorism.
Few mullahs? If recent rallies are any indications, it does not look like so.
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LOL. ‘India’ naam kidhar se aaya 