This world cup has shown some of the most amazing amazing melt-downs. A highly rated New Zealand team folded meekly first to Australia in the Super-8 and then to Sri Lanka in the semis. A glorified South African batting was brutally dismantled by Aussies in the Semi Final today after being shocked by Bangladesh in the Super-8s. Previously Sri Lanka suffered a crashing defeat when their awesome batting failed miserably while facing the Aussies in the Super-8’s.
My commiserations to the supporters of all these teams. Pakistani fans are no stranger to this feeling. Your team is performing so well. Its all hyped up. And then a crunch match comes and they lose. Not only do they lose, they just fold meekly as if they have forgotten how to put up a fight at all. We all shake our heads and wonder what ever happened.
When Pakistan loses like this, immediately fingers are point. Charsi Sarfaraz Nawaz comes out of his hole and alleges match fixing. Our yellow journalists immediately bring out stories of fights in the dressing room. The whole nation absolutely refuses to accept defeat. If Pakistan loses something gotta be fishy.
Anyway, this is just to say, everyone’s the same, folks. Every team goes through a melt down here and there. Yeah, so we (Pak) do it a bit more frequently than some others, but hey, we have also beaten the crap out of the rest too on some memorable occasions.
All the best to Lankans. They’ll need it.
ps. I write this before the Aus-SA semi is over. Anything can happen. Even Aussies can face a batting meltdown. But the signs are ominous for our green-shirted Afrikaans!
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When Pakistan loses like this, immediately fingers are point. Charsi Sarfaraz Nawaz comes out of his hole and alleges match fixing. Our yellow journalists immediately bring out stories of fights in the dressing room. The whole nation absolutely refuses to accept defeat. If Pakistan loses something gotta be fishy.
Says it all. We invariably don't accept defeat, it's always match fixing.
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I think it was INZI in the exclusive he gave to Fakhr Alam in which he said..
" Humain har man-nee naheen aatee" In reality we don't know how to accept losses or something close to that...
When I heard that, I completely agreed with the thought. We asians, can't digest a bad performance as merely that.
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I don't have a problem with losing as long as our team shows some fight and goes down fighting. And while I do appreciate that on some days things can go horribly wrong for any team (cf. SA today) spineless and pathetic batting displays/surrenders are not very easy to digest.
This is more of a problem in the sub-continent because cricket is the only sport our nations excel in at the moment. In Australia (even though they have been ruling world cricket for almost a decade) cricketers are n't worshipped like they are in the sub-continent because they are good in so many other sports incl. rugby, soccer, hockey, golf, tennis, motor sport and ofcourse the olympics
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Says it all. We invariably don't accept defeat, it's always match fixing.
yeah, cuz in the past it's been proven. They threw matches cuz of the money they were getting. Still believe Akram that Pak lost to Bangladesh in '99 WC cuz of the muslim brotherhood bond? The match was fixed and he got tons of money for loosing.
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This is more of a problem in the sub-continent because cricket is the only sport our nations excel in at the moment. In Australia (even though they have been ruling world cricket for almost a decade) cricketers are n't worshipped like they are in the sub-continent because they are good in so many other sports incl. rugby, soccer, hockey, golf, tennis, motor sport and ofcourse the olympics
Bhai, ab is mein cricketers ki kiya ghalti hai, that fans don't have a life other than cricket?
I don't disagree with you, though. I think thats absolutely true. In India-Pakistan cricketers are put on a very high padestal and thus the crash causes even more hurt and this frustration is taken out on the poor chaps that are in the firing line. Point is that in cricket any great team can have a miserable outing every now and then (current Aussie team is excepted from this rule). Pak fans shouldn't be too hard on themselves. Other fans are also in the same boat. :)
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New Zealand rarely collapse at the rate and consistency that Pakistan keep collapsing...also remember NZ is a very small country yet they always punch above their weight. South Africans, on the other hand, are world-renowed chokers and they proved that yet again. If you think the South African press wont go after the Proteas, you should think again. Fine, no one will burn effigies etc but the players will definately cop a lot of stick. Every team has a decent record against South Africa, because they have a one dimensional attack - except Pakistan. Pakistan's record against SA is appaling...because our batsman lose the game mentally before they even step foot on the field against SA.
So..to say 'Pakistan aint bad or alone in all this' is a little over the top. Sure, other teams collapse..but not as regularly or as efficiently as the Pakistanis seem to keep doing...and in a country where cricket is the only game we're remotely good at...theres bound to be over-reaction by the fans.
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Sure, other teams collapse..but not as regularly or efficiently as the Pakistanis seem to keep doing
Hahaha... I like the way you put it. Pakistan keeps collapsing very "efficiently" ... LOL!!!
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New Zealand rarely collapse at the rate and consistency that Pakistan keep collapsing...also remember NZ is a very small country yet they always punch above their weight. South Africans, on the other hand, are world-renowed chokers and they proved that yet again. If you think the South African press wont go after the Proteas, you should think again. Fine, no one will burn effigies etc but the players will definately cop a lot of stick. Every team has a decent record against South Africa, because they have a one dimensional attack - except Pakistan. Pakistan's record against SA is appaling...because our batsman lose the game mentally before they even step foot on the field against SA.
** So..to say 'Pakistan aint bad or alone in all this' is a little over the top. Sure, other teams collapse..but not as regularly or as efficiently as the Pakistanis seem to keep doing..**.and in a country where cricket is the only game we're remotely good at...theres bound to be over-reaction by the fans.
So how come Pakistan is still in the top 4 in the world rankings???
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How many coaches are killed imediately after a major worldcup diseaster?
If match fixing charges will not be levelled then what else wud u expect?
What bothers u more: (1) Pakistan losing to teams like Ireland, (2) Pakistan being kicked out of the first round once again, (3) Pakistani cricket coach (bob woolmer) getting killed (4) Lack of cricket preparation by the Tablighee Jamaat, (5) Pakistani players lack of regret post WC diseaster or (6) Some disgruntled fans expressing their disappointment.
Worldcup comes every four years, we are not getting any younger and as ardent fans deserve better in terms of performance, dedication, committment and passion to play for Pakistan.
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The title and the mindset of the thread initiator is nothing but inferiority ridden. Why measure oneself against the worst? Why not raise the pedestal to the level of the Aussies?
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this world cup was a disaster
Australia totally dominated every game. Not a single game was close.
Ireland and Bangladesh snuck into Super 8 which meant that any game that these teams played resulted in their massive defeats, removing any semblance of suspense.
None of the Semi-Finals had any suspense as both South Africa and New Zealand crashed out in dismal fashion.
I just hope that the final is not a romp.
Australia should easily win.
Personally I think Sri Lanka's bowling is overrated.
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^ At least SL-NZ game was alive till lunch time. Aus-SA game was pretty much over in the first hour. Kinda reminded me of '99 final. I can kinda imagine how South African supporters must be looking for a good showing from their team, and after 26-5 must be pulling their hair out. And looking at how Smith, Kallis and Prince got out, I am sure more than a few are thinking foul play. Such a familiar feeling.
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Totally agree! :k: This is the most shameful time for Pakistan Cricket and after such a disaster, and considering the match fixing history that Pakistan Cricket has had, I don’t blame anyone who mentions that match fixing was involved in this tournament.