Read these stats Since 2001, 425 Suicide attacks by Taliban in Pakistani Territory 10,464 **Civilians including children & women
**3638 Security officers (Police,Army,Navy & Air force) 15000 More than killed in drone attacks 43 mosques destroyed in suicide attacks
Total more than 29102 people are killed in Pakistan after talibanization.
(These stats are taken from a valid source)
What kind of Islam they are spreading,When Mosques and innocent citizens are not safe and drugs business is improving in all over the country, and specially in those areas where Taliban have huge presence like KPK.
Where in west is some thing like this is happening and Is that whole blood game is equal to De-Westernization????????
this is another myth that it is american war not pakistani-it only started after 9/11-fact is its way back since 80s talibans were trained in 90s in hundreds of camps in pakistan so as kashmiri terriorist-indians knows it very well becos we r the one suffering from these groups-its high time for Pakistanis to wake up and get rid of all these conspiracy theories-
Do not try to mix freedom war in Kashmir with Anti-terrorism war against Taliban. Freedom war in Kashmir is true freedom fight, as accepted by United Nations. Your army is doing same kind of bloodshed as the the Talibans are doing in the world. We do not differentiate b/w both.Both are ruthless killers.
First suicide attack in Pakistani territory was made when Pakistan announced it's support with USA in war against terrorism. You better read the history first and then comment in this thread. Yes we have trained Taliban but who was are ally in this project do u know.Answer is America --you need to read this again my friend----
At that time's dictator Gen Zia took the decision to activate Jihadis against Russia. Americans completely support those Jehadis and financed them. They brought Osama to this region and organised an army against Russians. Russians intentions were also very ugly at that time. America provided the best training through ISI to Talibans and provided them latest weapons. Now read carefully these three important ugly mistakes done by Americans and then assume some thing about Pakistan.
1.Americans were supporting an idiot dictator Gen Zia and discouraging the democracy.
2.They were financing the Talibans and providing them weapons.Talibans since then are using those Us-provided weapons and those which were left by Russians.Those weapons are in huge quantity.
3. When Talibans with the help of US and Pak defeated Russia, Americans went back without making any proper Govt in Afg and then those trained Jehadis groups started fighting against each other to become the Afg rulers.
you may read the history from some other sources too. Americans made mistakes at that time and still they are doing the same thing they are trying to destabilize Pakistan.But this time American's sufferings will increase much more times, and in the end they will go back with empty hands
see its useless talking about kashmir issue-its difficult to alter ur views and remember we indians havent migrated from gulf to india its own land from centuries-we had a history of more than 5000 years in india and we r secular-our former president is an hindu vice president a muslim primeminister a sikh defence minister a christian-there r equal opportunities for all the people regardless of there faith-unlike pakistan were minorities r treated like slaves-christians r killed evry other days forget abot hindus and sikhs-we r over a billion strong will be difficult to break us-time for pakistanis to sort out there home and than care abot others
see its useless talking about kashmir issue-its difficult to alter ur views and remember we indians havent migrated from gulf to india its own land from centuries-we had a history of more than 5000 years in india and we r secular-our former president is an hindu vice president a muslim primeminister a sikh defence minister a christian-there r equal opportunities for all the people regardless of there faith-unlike pakistan were minorities r treated like slaves-christians r killed evry other days forget abot hindus and sikhs-we r over a billion strong will be difficult to break us-time for pakistanis to sort out there home and than care abot others
Its about time you stop poking your nose in every issue of ours, let us handle our issues and we will fix it. We do have issues and its not like you are issue-free, I don't want to turn every thread into Pak-Ind war, just stay in your borders and we will solve our own problems.
see its useless talking about kashmir issue-its difficult to alter ur views and remember we indians havent migrated from gulf to india its own land from centuries-we had a history of more than 5000 years in india and we r secular-our former president is an hindu vice president a muslim primeminister a sikh defence minister a christian-there r equal opportunities for all the people regardless of there faith-unlike pakistan were minorities r treated like slaves-christians r killed evry other days forget abot hindus and sikhs-we r over a billion strong will be difficult to break us-time for pakistanis to sort out there home and than care abot others
Hi bharti this is your baap from Pakistan speaking.
You are secular? Is that why innocent Christians are burned and raped to death every other day? Is that why Muslims are not allowed to live in several apartments around the Navi Mumbai and Main Mumbai area? The President's post in India is a useless post. I doubt any non Indian even knows who India's current president is. Can you tell me why majority of the neighborhoods in India are religiously segregated? I very well know how Muslim's and Christians are considered filthy in the eyes of you pure Hindus. Explains why Hindus in India refuse to sit in the same chair a Muslim or Christian has used previously. Christian and Muslim bathrooms or Kitchens are considered pigsty in your eyes.
Now you talk about every other day a Christian getting killed in Pakistan. Wtf are you high on? It is India where thousands of Christians are burned and raped to death on a daily basis. Remember Orissa? We already broke your billion strong country in 1947. Honestly cow urine is not good for you, stop drinking it.
Btw yes I'm a Pakistani Christian and proud to be one.
Mr Secular you really need to know about your country's ruthless attitude about minorities, then peek into the neighbors affairs. when the campaign of violence began against the Christians, thousands of Christians have been killed; 178 churches have been destroyed or damaged; 4,600 homes belonging to Christians have been burned; 13 schools or social centers have been destroyed; more than 50,000 people have been forced to flee; more than 18,000 have been wounded.
The report released in June found Thackeray responsible for inciting attacks on Muslims which resulted in the butchering of between 800 and 1700 Muslims in Bombay during 1992-93, in the wake of the Babri Masjid destruction The momentum gained by the Hindutva movement with the destruction of the Babri Masjid on December 2, 1992 has emboldened the movement to reach greater heights. But the suffering of Muslims did not start with the destruction of the mosque built in 1528. They have been suffering since 1947. Since then, the community has had to witness the destruction, occupation or conversion of more than 7,000 mosques. To date, they have also been victims of more than 16,000 "communal riots", a euphemism for anti-Muslim pogroms since partition.
see its useless talking about kashmir issue-its difficult to alter ur views and remember we indians havent migrated from gulf to india its own land from centuries-we had a history of more than 5000 years in india and we r secular-our former president is an hindu vice president a muslim primeminister a sikh defence minister a christian-there r equal opportunities for all the people regardless of there faith-unlike pakistan were minorities r treated like slaves-christians r killed evry other days forget abot hindus and sikhs-we r over a billion strong will be difficult to break us-time for pakistanis to sort out there home and than care abot others
In my next article i will tell you what you people did with the Muslims of Gujrat. And i will also tell you how hindus are treating with the muslims of India.
see its useless talking about kashmir issue-its difficult to alter ur views and remember we indians havent migrated from gulf to india its own land from centuries-we had a history of more than 5000 years in india and we r secular-our former president is an hindu vice president a muslim primeminister a sikh defence minister a christian-there r equal opportunities for all the people regardless of there faith-unlike pakistan were minorities r treated like slaves-christians r killed evry other days forget abot hindus and sikhs-we r over a billion strong will be difficult to break us-time for pakistanis to sort out there home and than care abot others
Were you in a hurry at your call center to write this jibberish?
Kashmir is a UN recognized disputed issue so quit your bs when India has interfered in internal matters of other countries be it Tibet, LTTE (Sri Lanka) and in E. Pakistan. Please put some UN dispute resolutions for these matters that tell us that these areas were disputed?
evr one calm done dont want to ignite any fire ovr here-its true there r some differences in societies but still we believe in the institution of secularism-wat the world wants is some sort of liberal environment in pakistan-if u guys keep on denying than bad for ur country-high time to see some light-if want to challange than challage us in economy we make 10% growth per annuam-our educational institutions r now best in the world-people from all ovr the world comes to india for treatment-tourism is growing on a massive way-who comes to pakistan apart from jihadis
evr one calm done dont want to ignite any fire ovr here-its true there r some differences in societies but still we believe in the institution of secularism-wat the world wants is some sort of liberal environment in pakistan-if u guys keep on denying than bad for ur country-high time to see some light-if want to challange than challage us in economy we make 10% growth per annuam-our educational institutions r now best in the world-people from all ovr the world comes to india for treatment-tourism is growing on a massive way-who comes to pakistan apart from jihadis
LMAO so called 10% gdp growth yet majority of bhartis live in poverty and poverty is just increasing. Man honestly what kind of cow urine are you drinking these days? Bhartis are known as slumdogs. Majority of you people live in slums.
Before 2008 Pakistan was growing at 8% above in GDP, a couple of bad years and now you have these bhartis getting their panties up in a bunch. Lol lol best educational institutions yet you bhartis are begging to go to Australia for education even though the Aussies are whipping your @sses.
evr one calm done dont want to ignite any fire ovr here-its true there r some differences in societies but still we believe in the institution of secularism-wat the world wants is some sort of liberal environment in pakistan-if u guys keep on denying than bad for ur country-high time to see some light-if want to challange than challage us in economy we make 10% growth per annuam-our educational institutions r now best in the world-people from all ovr the world comes to india for treatment-tourism is growing on a massive way-who comes to pakistan apart from jihadis
if you know decent language than this is last one: open "marketing India" thread somewhere else, this is Pakistan Affairs and let it be.
looks you got hurt somewhere below the belt .but facts are facts. he provided you correct data showed your real face , dont like your face in the mirror?
apni asaliyat batana jaroori tha? why use shaitan,mardood ………..? do you use this language in your home?
well all we know is that a muslim killing another muslim without the reason of Shirk, exploiting or updating Islam for his her own sake and interest is not the preaching of Islam.
So it is ok to kill a Muslim if YOU think he committed shirk?
Since 2001, 425 Suicide attacks by Taliban in Pakistani Territory10,464 **Civilians including children & women
**3638 Security officers (Police,Army,Navy & Air force)
15000 More than killed in drone attacks
43 mosques destroyed in suicide attacks
Total more than 29102 people are killed in Pakistan after talibanization.
(These stats are taken from a valid source)
What kind of Islam they are spreading,When Mosques and innocent citizens are not safe and drugs business is improving in all over the country, and specially in those areas where Taliban have huge presence like KPK.
who investigated these crimes?
I accuse America for planting bombs and dividing the muslims
you can't pin blame entire bombing and chaos on one party without proof so my claim is valid if not more valid than yours.
how comes all these problem started with the arrival of CIA and mercenaries into pakistan did you bother to investigate this also?
Suicide bombings and killings are not an indication of talibanization of the Pakistani society. Though Taliban are a bunch of animals, but when they ruled Afghanistan, there were no suicide bombings there and there was relative peace in areas under their control.
The real talibanization of Pakistan started a long time ago, and now Taliban rule Pakistan not in the shape of bearded armed men but in the shape of educated religious bigots who have equally high level of intolerance for other religions/sects and who justify all kind of violence as long as it is against the people that they think are not Muslim enough.
A wise man once said that the Taliban do not need to physically take over Pakistan, instead they will take over by winning the hearts and minds of Pakistani people with their rotten religious ideology.
Do not try to mix freedom war in Kashmir with Anti-terrorism war against Taliban. Freedom war in Kashmir is true freedom fight, as accepted by United Nations. Your army is doing same kind of bloodshed as the the Talibans are doing in the world. We do not differentiate b/w both.Both are ruthless killers.
First suicide attack in Pakistani territory was made when Pakistan announced it's support with USA in war against terrorism. You better read the history first and then comment in this thread. Yes we have trained Taliban but who was are ally in this project do u know.Answer is America --you need to read this again my friend----
At that time's dictator Gen Zia took the decision to activate Jihadis against Russia. Americans completely support those Jehadis and financed them. They brought Osama to this region and organised an army against Russians. Russians intentions were also very ugly at that time. America provided the best training through ISI to Talibans and provided them latest weapons. Now read carefully these three important ugly mistakes done by Americans and then assume some thing about Pakistan.
1.Americans were supporting an idiot dictator Gen Zia and discouraging the democracy.
2.They were financing the Talibans and providing them weapons.Talibans since then are using those Us-provided weapons and those which were left by Russians.Those weapons are in huge quantity.
3. When Talibans with the help of US and Pak defeated Russia, Americans went back without making any proper Govt in Afg and then those trained Jehadis groups started fighting against each other to become the Afg rulers.
you may read the history from some other sources too. Americans made mistakes at that time and still they are doing the same thing they are trying to destabilize Pakistan.But this time American's sufferings will increase much more times, and in the end they will go back with empty hands
It's unbelieveable that there are pakistanis like you, who keep talking about good terrorist and bad terrorists. It's your obsession to Kashmir that got you here. You wanted to needle India, encouraged terrorism and when Soviet got involved in Afghan you used religious terrorism to oppose them not because you are champion on democracy (far from it) crusaders against communism. Because you saw India in Soviet and assumed India is going to control Afghanistan. You created Taliban without thinking for once the consequences of it, for you as a nation do not live for any priciples and only thing you stand for is destruction of India. As long as you continue this path there is no hope!!!! sorry!! I have to say this, I hope good sense will brevail and I am proved wrong.
So Pakistan shouldn't have had fought the Soviets, who had friendship treaties with the Indians? Indians should go and fix their own country where there is still hunger and infrastructure is still $hit compared to china.
I accuse America for planting bombs and dividing the muslims
you can't pin blame entire bombing and chaos on one party without proof so my claim is valid if not more valid than yours.
how comes all these problem started with the arrival of CIA and mercenaries into pakistan did you bother to investigate this also?
what kind of democracy hypocrisy is this?
Brother i have wrote an complete article about the history of this war in response of an Indian ( named Fulcrum) reply to my thread. That how USA imported war in this region.That article is in complete detail.I m pasting that article again for your assistance.I hope it contain the answers of your all questions. "Talibans are just products their makers are Americans"
Do not try to mix freedom war in Kashmir with Anti-terrorism war against Taliban. Freedom war in Kashmir is true freedom fight, as accepted by United Nations. Your army is doing same kind of bloodshed as the the Talibans are doing in the world. We do not differentiate b/w both.Both are ruthless killers.
First suicide attack in Pakistani territory was made when Pakistan announced it's support with USA in war against terrorism. You better read the history first and then comment in this thread. Yes we have trained Taliban but who was are ally in this project do u know.Answer is America --you need to read this again my friend----
At that time's dictator Gen Zia took the decision to activate Jihadis against Russia. Americans completely support those Jehadis and financed them. They brought Osama to this region and organised an army against Russians. Russians intentions were also very ugly at that time. America provided the best training through ISI to Talibans and provided them latest weapons. Now read carefully these three important ugly mistakes done by Americans and then assume some thing about Pakistan.
1.Americans were supporting an idiot dictator Gen Zia and discouraging the democracy in Pakistan.
2.Americans were financing the Talibans and providing them weapons against Russians.
3.Talibans since then are using those Us-provided weapons & training and also those weapos which were left by Russians.Those weapons are in huge quantity.
4. When Talibans with the help of US and Pak defeated Russia, Americans went back without making any proper Govt in Afg and then those trained Jehadis groups started fighting against each other to become the Afg rulers.
you may read the history from some other sources too. Americans made mistakes at that time and still they are doing the same thing, they are trying to destabilize Pakistan.But this time American's sufferings will increase much more times, and in the end they will go back with empty hands