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There is nothing like cast racism in hinduism itself............I challange if anyone can prove that quoting Bhagvadh Geeta which is only authentic religious book for hindus. The books often quoted by learned islamic scholers are not hindu religious books but ancient literature by some idiot scholers who must be burning in hell right now.
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I admit that part of learning about Hinduism came from "Muslim" sources, but a lot also came from my family who used to live amongst Hindus pre-partition in India. Then again, followers of all religion astray away from their religion with every generation and 'Hinduism' must be suffering the same decay/betrayal-by-followers.
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Seconly religion reflects on behaviour of the society at large........when majority of muslims will start practicing Islam and will form a good society based on love and justice, than no one will dare say that Islam has something wrong with it, I hope U understand.........all the allegations Islam is facing now a days are due to muslims who have responsibility to show to the world what islam is all about........I hope u understand what I mean.
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If you are mature enough to understand that its not the religon to blame rather its followers then you should spread that understading rather than indulging in the wrong.
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A tree can only be judged by its fruits. Again my humble views only, U are free to differ, ALLAH knows best.
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Thats what we are all are suffering from, judging by looks which is wrong.
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Well I agree with U, but when some laws are flouted in such drastic manners, like Islamic laws are being, than questions are bound to raise. I m an admirer of holy quran, and I honestly term it as the best book available in world today......but I dont believe that its book from ALLAH, coz it has been proven that its laws are not meant for humankind. I just wonder when I apparantly see an average muslim's commitment towards holy quran as a book, I further wonder when I see same average muslim disobeying its laws in a most shameless way. So I reach to conclusion that despite quranic laws being best bet for a good society, these are unpractical laws and ALLAH
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Perhaps you didn't learn the religion completely, Allah tells us in Quran that Satan will try his best to lead us astray and its OUR responsibility to fight him/ill-temptations.... so we are the ones responsible for the bads since we have already been warned against it but we still ignore it.
If someone crosses red-light in traffic and some accident happens, it doesn't mean that the law was wrong, but it only means someone didn't follow it. Fortunately for such traffic/worldly laws that their results/punishments are observable by our eyes, unfortunately same is not true for 'religious laws' as we cannot see the outcome of ignoring/following its rules within our worldly lives.
It has become a crime due to 'laws' or due to form of government nowadays, abolishment of casts is not because 'religion' has evolved rather the society has evolved-out/grown-out/exited the religion of Hinduism.... so the religion is same, just the society has changed.
Read the bold part again, there is difference between a law and its followers/believers. Law itself doesn't have flaw but if a follower/citizen is not willing to follow then law just stays in books, similarly religion is now restricted to books you won't find it in acts of its followers, so the blame is not on religion/law rather its followers/citizens, I hope you know the difference.
Someone is getting served by short-memory-syndrome. You should read history to get some idea of killings caused by followers of religions other than Islam.
I agree, you should follow the same principle.
See, now you are getting towards right approach, the flaw is in followers.
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Even God has told us to not disrepect other religions, but many Muslims do, what does that mean? Does it mean that Islam allows people to disrespect other religions or is it that people are stupid and don't follow their religion correctly?
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brother I have nothing against Islam, as I said that its religion just like other religions worth respecting, and I owe a lot to Islam coz my own concept of GOD is inspired by its monothism. But only I dont believe in any divine book or any messenger, be it from my own religion. And when I said ur religion allows it I dont say these words to a muslim, but to someone I feel is a hypocrite, a munafiq. My views only, may be wrong too, ALLAH knows best.
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It has become a crime due to 'laws' or due to form of government nowadays, abolishment of casts is not because 'religion' has evolved rather the society has evolved-out/grown-out/exited the religion of Hinduism.... so the religion is same, just the society has changed.
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Brother I have heard many muslims complaining to non muslims that they dont understand Islam and jump to conclusions ignorantly.......same applies with muslims when they speak about hinduism. There is nothing like cast racism in hinduism itself............I challange if anyone can prove that quoting Bhagvadh Geeta which is only authentic religious book for hindus. The books often quoted by learned islamic scholers are not hindu religious books but ancient literature by some idiot scholers who must be burning in hell right now. Seconly religion reflects on behaviour of the society at large........when majority of muslims will start practicing Islam and will form a good society based on love and justice, than no one will dare say that Islam has something wrong with it, I hope U understand.........all the allegations Islam is facing now a days are due to muslims who have responsibility to show to the world what islam is all about........I hope u understand what I mean. A tree can only be judged by its fruits. Again my humble views only, U are free to differ, ALLAH knows best.
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Read the bold part again, there is difference between a law and its followers/believers. Law itself doesn't have flaw but if a follower/citizen is not willing to follow then law just stays in books, similarly religion is now restricted to books you won't find it in acts of its followers, so the blame is not on religion/law rather its followers/citizens, I hope you know the difference
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Well I agree with U, but when some laws are flouted in such drastic manners, like Islamic laws are being, than questions are bound to raise. I m an admirer of holy quran, and I honestly term it as the best book available in world today......but I dont believe that its book from ALLAH, coz it has been proven that its laws are not meant for humankind. I just wonder when I apparantly see an average muslim's commitment towards holy quran as a book, I further wonder when I see same average muslim disobeying its laws in a most shameless way. So I reach to conclusion that despite quranic laws being best bet for a good society, these are unpractical laws and ALLAH cant prescribe unpractical laws for its creations which cant be followed by majority of ppls for whom it has been written. BTW I m in no way blaming any religion/laws/book for anything, I m just expressing my views on this forum which is for healthy debate..........I again say that I may be wrong, ALLAH knows best.
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Someone is getting served by short-memory-syndrome. You should read history to get some idea of killings caused by followers of religions other than Islam.
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Brother one advice I often give to my muslim friends is to live in present and not past and future as muslims like to live...........when their attention is drawn towards any bad practice among muslims than they cite history and say how great our ancestors were....and later on they jump ahead to future telling us how they will enjoy paradise while we will burn in hell till eternity. In the meantime they forget their present which is not examplery by any means. I request U too to forget the past.........history is always written by winners, sometimes by brutal winners in their favour and with hell of bias. Though I dont deny killing by followers of any other religion but thats history...........we cant change it but can only take lessons from it. What muslims need is to see what is happening today.........I challange anyone to deny that in recent times muslims were massacred more by muslims themselves rather than any other community. Should this hard fact not be told to muslims? Isnt it time for muslims to check whats wrong with them??? why they are full of hatred to the extent that they dont spare their own muslim bretherns even in presence of commands from ALLAH not to kill any muslims in any circumstance??? Isnt anything wrong with muslims only??? What is the problem with muslims that they cant hold on to the rope of ALLAH? Time for some introspection brother rather than being indulged in blame game and peeping in other houses. Again my humble views only, have all the chances of being wrong, ALLAH knows best.
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Brother show me any single word which suggests that I have anything against Islam? so ur above quote is irrelevent here. Ya I m a big critic of muslims in terms of their unislamic behaviour, and I have my valid reasons for thinking in this way too.
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Brother what U mean by now??? I have catagorically stated while speaking about islam that its a religion of peace and love, but its balant misinterpretation leads to blunders. So plz delete now from Ur post, in this regard, I have been towards right approach since the very begening.
yea, liek not allowing lower catses to schools and denying them oppurtuntiy is soooo peacefull. and islam has broguth nothing other then destruction? get off your charas.
Ill list few achievemtns by Islam a top of my head. Algebra, which is vital intodays world(for computer programming etc), was disocevred by a muslim named Al-jabr. The distillation process(the first still), which has enabled peopel to make concentrated medicines and other uses, was inevented by a muslim. Muslim chemists disoovered many chemicals, for example, hydrocholoric acid,(which is stomach acid which digests your food, i know you didnt know that, but now you do) was identified by a muslim etc etc. Muslims made great strides in astronomy, ship buldings and architecture(the taj mahal in your country is based on Muslim architecture, the type of architecture which is found all over the muslim world)
now please enlighten me with a few of your hindu acomplishments please
okay…caste discrimination was there. now,you dont know about rajputana architecture. you should go to rajasthan for that. taj mahal is supposed to have a portion of rajputana architecture and mughal architecture. not to mention the architecture of vijayanagara empire or deccan architecture.
check this website out, an article by J J connor and robertson
“Al-Karkhi was primarily responsible for popularising Hindu numerals before the advent of Arabic ones. His book 'Al-kafi fil Hissab was translated into German by Hochhevin and published at Halle in 1878–80.”
"Abu Abdulla Muhammad Ibrahim-al-Fazari in 772-773 A.D. translated Sidhanta from Sanskrit into Arabic, which, according to G. Sarton provided “possibly the vehicle by means of which the Hindu numerals were transmitted from India to Islam”.
And if you have studied Islam or the Holy Quran, and it seems that you have, then you surley know by now that Whom so ever Allah guides no one can lead him astray. Also the bueaty of it all is, us lowly humans can try all we want to convince you to believe in Allah, the choice is yours by virtue of Free Will,
And even after one claims to be a firm believer, our Imaan can be shaken, just like one of the most prominant Sahabi and second Khalifa used to say: some days in the mornings I am a firm beleiver, but in the evening full of despair and doubt my faith. If Omar Radi Allah hu Unhu would say that, who are we compared to him?
The other questions you asked were answered by Captain 1, I was not trying to ignore those.
Brother cast discrimnation was there as I have already admitted, but its declared a punishable crime long ago by Hindu India. So if U want us to hold responsible for cast discrimination, than its okay, and if u are ready to forget the past, than U are welcome. :) So no lower cast can be denied entry in Hindu India, and we provide reservation to those who have been deprived of opportunities.
While brother singh has given U a fitting response, but I will like to draw ur attention towards the fact that more hindus than muslims, have won noble prizes inspite of the fact that hindus strength is narly half of 1400 million strong muslim population. If u go out and check how many hindus are contributing towards science and medicine, U can find some amazing results. But that was not my point...............All I meant to say that Islam has done nothing which can be termed good for humankind, not even for muslims. Plight of muslims around the world can strengthen my view.
And if you have studied Islam or the Holy Quran, and it seems that you have, then you surley know by now that Whom so ever Allah guides no one can lead him astray.Also the bueaty of it all is, us lowly humans can try all we want to convince you to believe in Allah, the choice is yours by virtue of Free Will,
And even after one claims to be a firm believer, our Imaan can be shaken, just like one of the most prominant Sahabi and second Khalifa used to say: some days in the mornings I am a firm beleiver, but in the evening full of despair and doubt my faith. If Omar Radi Allah hu Unhu would say that, who are we compared to him?
The other questions you asked were answered by Captain 1, I was not trying to ignore those.
Well brother, faith is something which shouldnt and cant be argued. I have all regards for ur faith, but I m all for my own faith which tells me that GOD is one, and his only religion is humanity. All other religions are man made thats why all religion except religion of humanity have produced only anger and hatred as its products. ALLAH knows best.
Brother I m unable to make u understand my views about Islam. I have good views about it ofcourse. Plz dont doubt about that. All I say that Islam is not from ALLAH as its sources suggests.
Now plz try to understand me why I feel so.
There are neumerous verses in Holy Quran which exorts muslims to kill Kafirs/Mushriks. Now I know wisdome behiind those verses, that these were revealed when the Holy Prophet was at war with those ppls. But is it strange if some muslim jump to the conclusion that ALLAH really wants us to kill all kafirs/mushriks??? What when some firebrand mullah who is blind with hatred refer to those verses and delievers a fiery speech that all kafirs and mushriks should be killed to bring rule of ALLAH over the world????
ALLAH says in holy quran that he wont forgive shirk but can forgive any other sin.
This very verse gives us a reflection that ALLAH is more concerned about himself rather than his beloved creations. Now in the light of above mentioned verse we can draw the conclusion that Mother Teresa, who had devoted her life for the service of humankind will be burning in hell, while those muslims who are responsible of killing thousands of innocent ppls will enjoy paradise. Its something unbelievable for me at least.
Brother, all I want to say that ALLAH cant give us the book which is so easy to misinterpretate and whose misinterpretaion can bring havoc to humankind. In brief all I can say that holy quran is like a sopisticated weapon, if given in responsible hands it can ensure peace, protection, and justice to whole village, but if given into hands of all village ppls, can bring destruction without any doubt.
And it goes on, an average muslim doesnt know what is there in holy quran, Wicked mullahs often teach holy quran with their own misinterpretation and to suit their greed and lust for power. We all can see the result in islamic world today.
Response to ur another post is due, later on Inshallah.
Plz try to undertand that above views are of a kafir who gives all the respect to every religion but doesnt subscribe to their views.
First your foundation about Islam should be right then things will fall into place, its the belief there is one God, the creator. Then once your foundation is strong then let other factors come into picture. The early converts to Islam, was only because of the concept of Tauhid and that was all because of our beloved Prophets sala Allaah wali u was SAlam, and the first years of Prophethood was for the call of Islamic Monotheism and not Jihad.
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There are neumerous verses in Holy Quran which exorts muslims to kill Kafirs/Mushriks. Now I know wisdome behiind those verses, that these were revealed when the Holy Prophet was at war with those ppls. But is it strange if some muslim jump to the conclusion that ALLAH really wants us to kill all kafirs/mushriks??? What when some firebrand mullah who is blind with hatred refer to those verses and delievers a fiery speech that all kafirs and mushriks should be killed to bring rule of ALLAH over the world????
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Look at the biography of Prophet if it was the case, that Allaah is ordained to kill all the disbelievers then how come the Jews and polythiests existed, in Medina were given all the rights(in the early days before the Jews broke treaties). They should have been massacred also.
Tell me will you follow Islam and become a Muslims because of this hate filled speeches by Mullahs or the Quran and Prophetic tradition. The best eg. is our Prophet Sala Allaahu waliu wa salam.
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ALLAH says in holy quran that he wont forgive shirk but can forgive any other sin.
This very verse gives us a reflection that ALLAH is more concerned about himself rather than his beloved creations. Now in the light of above mentioned verse we can draw the conclusion that Mother Teresa, who had devoted her life for the service of humankind will be burning in hell, while those muslims who are responsible of killing thousands of innocent ppls will enjoy paradise. Its something unbelievable for me at least.
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Now let me give you an analogy a hypothetical situation,
Today if your Wife comes over and declares YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND, you will wonder what you mean by this, but a perfect way would by YOU ARE ONLY MY HUSBAND. Makes a world of difference.
The concept to the above eg. is your wife cud be an alcoholic your ready to still accept her, even though she has umpteen no. of bad deeds but not after she has a statement YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND. You will never forgive her, same goes with Allaah swt.
Tell me dont you think your are slaves to your parents in that way, thats how Muslims and the whole of creation is towards Allaah. Your ready to accept the words of a human but not the speech of Allaah who created the human.
If we can be dutiful to our Parents then what about Allaah or God.
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Brother, all I want to say that ALLAH cant give us the book which is so easy to misinterpretate and whose misinterpretaion can bring havoc to humankind. In brief all I can say that holy quran is like a sopisticated weapon, if given in responsible hands it can ensure peace, protection, and justice to whole village, but if given into hands of all village ppls, can bring destruction without any doubt.
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We believe Islam is a perfect religion and the religion of truth. I again question your aql or intellectual capacity to ponder, would you become a Muslim because of these Humans or because of Quran the word of Allaah, well they are authentic supported statements to Prove the Quran is from Allaah or God.
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And it goes on, an average muslim doesnt know what is there in holy quran, Wicked mullahs often teach holy quran with their own misinterpretation and to suit their greed and lust for power. We all can see the result in islamic world today.
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Is it the problem with the Holy Quran or the Muslim, i am in accord to your above statements and I have the same statements as above.
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Plz try to undertand that above views are of a kafir who gives all the respect to every religion but doesnt subscribe to their views.
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I respect you coz you heartily say your a Kafir, and i like your attitude.
Understand you can argue about innumerable reasons in the Quran, but these are something which are not newly invented its been since 1400 years by the Mushriks.
But the ones who revert to Islam is only because of Tauheed or Islamic Monothiesm of God.
Get me the proof buddy, I will agree with you then, I am reading the biography of Prophet and just finished with 3rd year in Medina and till now I havent got any.
All these are lies and fabricated stories, which has been since 1400 years, and nothinng new. Invent something new to challenge Quran, I am waiting.
Hopefully, I might find it in anti-islamic, websites coz I cant find it in the one I am reading.
Get me the reference, I did not reject your comments either. I asked you for the proof if I am wrong then, they are always chances to correct myself.
Give me which Volume no., Book no. and the hadith no.:)
Look at the biography of Prophet if it was the case, that Allaah is ordained to kill all the disbelievers then how come the Jews and polythiests existed, in Medina were given all the rights(in the early days before the Jews broke treaties). They should have been massacred also.
Tell me will you follow Islam and become a Muslims because of this hate filled speeches by Mullahs or the Quran and Prophetic tradition. The best eg. is our Prophet Sala Allaahu waliu wa salam.
Now let me give you an analogy a hypothetical situation,
Today if your Wife comes over and declares YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND, you will wonder what you mean by this, but a perfect way would by YOU ARE ONLY MY HUSBAND. Makes a world of difference.
The concept to the above eg. is your wife cud be an alcoholic your ready to still accept her, even though she has umpteen no. of bad deeds but not after she has a statement YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND. You will never forgive her, same goes with Allaah swt.
Tell me dont you think your are slaves to your parents in that way, thats how Muslims and the whole of creation is towards Allaah. Your ready to accept the words of a human but not the speech of Allaah who created the human.
If we can be dutiful to our Parents then what about Allaah or God.
We believe Islam is a perfect religion and the religion of truth. I again question your aql or intellectual capacity to ponder, would you become a Muslim because of these Humans or because of Quran the word of Allaah, well they are authentic supported statements to Prove the Quran is from Allaah or God.
Is it the problem with the Holy Quran or the Muslim, i am in accord to your above statements and I have the same statements as above.
I respect you coz you heartily say your a Kafir, and i like your attitude.
Understand you can argue about innumerable reasons in the Quran, but these are something which are not newly invented its been since 1400 years by the Mushriks.
But the ones who revert to Islam is only because of Tauheed or Islamic Monothiesm of God.
Thanks for ur response.
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**Well let me make one thing clear, I m a firm believer of Tauheed, but i dont believe in Risalat. ALLAH is one and only, yes, but I simply dont believe in that he sent any messenger to humankind. So in this process I dont even believe what I have been taught since my childhood being from typical hindu family. I have all the regards for the holy prophet.
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Look at the biography of Prophet if it was the case, that Allaah is ordained to kill all the disbelievers then how come the Jews and polythiests existed, in Medina were given all the rights(in the early days before the Jews broke treaties). They should have been massacred also.
Tell me will you follow Islam and become a Muslims because of this hate filled speeches by Mullahs or the Quran and Prophetic tradition. The best eg. is our Prophet Sala Allaahu waliu wa salam.
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Brother U couldnt understand what I meant. I never said that the holy prophet killed anyone without a valid reason. I can understand that what could be the situation when muslims were facing persecution by the hands of mushriks and kafirs, but thats another part of story. What I want to darw ur attention towards is the fact that those verse of killing kafireen/mushrikeen can and are misinterpretated in most drastic manners by hardline muslims. just because of belief that holy quran is guidence for mankind till quamayah makes those verse still relevent. Now what is someone take guidence from those verse and slaughter mushriks and kafirs? Dont u think that some muslims are doing that? and with the belief that ALLAH wants them to do so and they will be rewarded jannah for their act of violence??? So my point is whether ALLAH can give such commands with instructions that these commands are for humankind for all times? Doesnt ALLAH knows that what disaster his verses can bring to his beloved and innocent creations???
Brother with all due regards to the holy prophet, permit me to tell that belief relates to heart. my heart doesnt accept that inspite of being such a noble man, the holy prophet or any other prophet was messenger of ALLAH. So I m not going to embrass any religion except the religion of humanity which according to my firm belief is the only religion of ALMIGHTY ALLAH.
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Today if your Wife comes over and declares YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND, you will wonder what you mean by this, but a perfect way would by YOU ARE ONLY MY HUSBAND. Makes a world of difference.
The concept to the above eg. is your wife cud be an alcoholic your ready to still accept her, even though she has umpteen no. of bad deeds but not after she has a statement YOU ARE ALSO MY HUSBAND. You will never forgive her, same goes with Allaah swt.
Tell me dont you think your are slaves to your parents in that way, thats how Muslims and the whole of creation is towards Allaah. Your ready to accept the words of a human but not the speech of Allaah who created the human.
If we can be dutiful to our Parents then what about Allaah or God.
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Well brother, the hypothetical analogy u mentioned above has been presented to me by a book from some Maulvi Kaleem Sahib of Muzaffrar Nag ar, I hope u too took it f rom him. I found it a crime not less than sh irk by comparing false ego of us h umans to the ego of ALMIGHTY ALL MERCIFUL ALLAH. I will never forgive her that may be true, but i may forgive her for another crimes she has commited against humanity if she is dedicated to me shows only h ow bad a human being I m. In the same way th inking that ALLAH can forgive me if I commit some crime against humanity but he wont forgive me if I associate partners with him, is nothing less than shirk in my views itself. ALLAH knows the best.
BTW muslims themselves dont find holy quran fit enough to follow, they only follow it selectively. sometimes to appease the human inside them, and sometimes to appease the Satan inside them too.
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We believe Islam is a perfect religion and the religion of truth. I again question your aql or intellectual capacity to ponder, would you become a Muslim because of these Humans or because of Quran the word of Allaah, well they are authentic supported statements to Prove the Quran is from Allaah or God.
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I respect ur beliefs brother, and my own aql or intellectual capacity doesnt allows me to subscribe to views of any religion in the world apart f rom the religion of h umanity. coz there is no religion which is perfect. No religion has yet passed the practical test in its orig inal form, all are proven failure. So neither I m going to be a Muslim, Christian, or any other religion.
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respect you coz you heartily say your a Kafir, and i like your attitude.
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Understand you can argue about innumerable reasons in the Quran, but these are something which are not newly invented its been since 1400 years by the Mushriks.
But the ones who revert to Islam is only because of Tauheed or Islamic Monothiesm of God.
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Thanks for ur kind words.
I too believe in Islamic monothism...if that makes me a muslim, than I m happy, b ut as I have told U earlier too that i dont believe in any messenger of ALLAH or any command of ALLAH.
Tahts a good and sound information, well i dont know the Maulvi, I pondered over these things well after that I heard in a lecture regarding the wife so I thought that was right. Thats when I put it across. Well, with the scriptures Quran its not corrupted.
I hope Allaah guide you towards the right path.Islamic Monothiesm the broad definition also goes believeing in Allaah and his messenger. I thought that wud be enough. But atleast you believe in the first part of Shahadaa.
La Ilaha Ilallaah - There is no diety except Allaah, so its only Mohamedur Rasoolullaah you have believe.
I know there will be a lot of negatives, and I can think of a lot of those.
However just for this thread in virtual reality: Can we think of the positives that can be developed from a Union of India, Pakistan, Bangaldesh & Kashmir.
1) No more Kashmir Issue, it will be an Independant State.
2) No need to spend all the resources on defence and destruction.
3) When Kashmir becomes an Independant State, all the extremists will no longer have any rallying cry, so we get rid of terrorrism as we know it in the sub-continent.**Can you think of other good reasons?, and let us keep the negativity underwraps for now. **
Thanks!
First of all your history facts are wrong...
Second this is a waste of bandwidth...
Third Hell No...
.All I meant to say that Islam has done nothing which can be termed good for humankind, not even for muslims. Plight of muslims around the world can strengthen my view.
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Are you kidding me? Islam hasnt done anything for humankind? I already explained just a few of islamic contributions? why dont you go read a history book? If you still dont get it i would recommend you fire a shotgun in your face and do they world a favor by getting rid of yourself.....
Well its a myth that Hinduism never spread beyond India and Nepal.
It is the dominant religion in the Bali island of Indonesia and has significant presence in Malaysia. Lord Ganesha is also printed on Indonesian currency.
In Indonesia even today many names are in Sanskrit. For exampl, Sukarnoputri means Daughter of Sukarno, and Suvarna means gold.