Pak website publishes ‘secret documents’ on US-Pak meetings

This is reported by Shaheen Sehabi (The News General Editor that was fired under pressure from the Musharaff Government ). It can be embarrassing for King Musharaff and his ‘team’.


http://www.satribune.com/archives/sep02_06_02/P1_Mainleadtext.htm

KARACHI: Angry or frustrated officials in the Administration of Pakistan’s staunchly pro-American military ruler, General Pervez Musharraf, last week decided to strike back. Secretly they leaked highly confidential documents sent by the United States Government to Islamabad, containing all the details of the full range of counter terrorism measures being undertaken by the two governments.

The leak to the media of a five-page Non-Paper was apparently aimed at embarrassing General Musharraf as he prepared for his visit to the US in a week’s time where he will meet President Bush and other senior US leaders during the UN General Assembly sessions. Releasing such sensitive papers to the media, specially involving Pak-US relations, also indicated the extent to which some officials were feeling betrayed by Musharraf’s policies.

The leaks also raised a major security question for the Musharraf Government as well as the US Administration: How secure were their communication channels and what else going on between the two governments could be leaked in a similar manner, causing some serious embarrassment or even damage to their joint war against terror in Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

“A Non-Paper in diplomatic terminology is the text of language agreed between two sides in formal meetings and the informal minutes which are exchanged to firm up positions and keep track of the specific issues to be discussed in specialized group sessions,” a former diplomat explained to SA Tribune.

A copy of the Non-Paper obtained by ‘South Asia Tribune’, in Karachi revealed that Pakistan’s Interior Minister, Moinuddin Haider, was soon to travel to Washington to discuss these detailed counter-terrorism plans under the aegis of the US-Pak Counter Terrorism (CT)-Law Enforcement Joint Working Group (JWP). All government file markings and entries on these papers had apparently been erased to protect the sources.

No date for the meeting of the CT-Law Enforcement JWG has yet been announced but the Non-Paper had a covering letter sent to a Karachi Department seeking comments latest by August 15, 2002.

The Non-Paper deals with the steps which had been agreed to be taken by the two governments in various fields, starting with spending US$ 3 million by the US Government on upgrading and training of Karachi Central Intelligence Department (CID) and providing $47 million for passport reforms including centralization of issuance and providing machine readable passports.

According to the document there are 16 items listed under the head: “Action Item for the USG” and another 14 as “Action Item for the GOP”. It mentions the following broad subjects which will be covered during the visit of Interior Minister Moinddin Haider to Washington.

The main subjects to be covered include the issue of Pakistani nationals in US Custody, exchange of information to investigate and prosecute organizations of smugglers, exploring ways on how US officials could work together with the Pakistanis “more proactively” to deter and detect smuggling through airports, controlling alien smuggling and border security, besides others.

The Non-Paper also refers to deployment of US money laundering experts in Pakistan, if Islamabad so desired and 100 per cent deployment of picture identification systems at Karachi and other Pakistani airports.

“The range of cooperation between the US and Pakistan law enforcement authorities is so wide that almost at every security point, US presence would become inevitable, either in the form of physical troops or machines, cameras or spying equipment relaying images and data to US officials sitting close by somewhere,” a Karachi journalist who read the US Non-Paper commented to SA Tribune. Click here to View Page1 | Page2 | Page3 | Page4 |Page5 | Page6

Other subjects to be covered by the Pak-US JWG will include Pakistan Government’s “need to increase judicial attention paid to internal anti-corruption efforts, lack of efficiency, timeliness and accountability of the judiciary.”

The Non-Paper says the USG will provide an authenticated copy of the US Senate Governmental Affairs Sub-Committee on Investigations Minority Report on Money Laundering, prepared in 1999, in which the Citibank client and husband of Benazir Bhutto, Asif Ali Zardari was presented as a “case history” by the Citibank before the Sub-Committee. http://www.satribune.com/archives/july20_26_02/ussenatereport.htm

The interesting aspect of this report is that while Pakistan’s Finance Minister Shaukat Aziz was also a witness in this Sub-Committee and testified in writing, he never provided or facilitated provision of a certified copy to the Accountability Bureau of the Musharrraf Government, even after three years. That copy has now been requested by the Musharraf Government, the Non-Paper reveals.

One subject mentioned in the Non-Paper relates to training the Karachi intelligence operative to conduct crime investigations on the crime scene professionally. For this the US has proposed giving the investigators small portable brief case sized kits.

The Pakistanis are also seeking US help for broad based police reforms enumerating two main challenges: Investigative techniques (finger print evidence collection and matching capability, ability to intercept communications, and training to fight cyber crime and institutional management.

Improvement of law enforcement help in Pakistan’s federally administered Tribal Areas (FATA) where the main anti-Al Qaeda operation is currently focussed, will also be part of the JWG discussion, according to the Non-Paper.

In the South-western Balochistan Province, the Scouts scouts will set up 30 new border posts to help combat drug smuggling and terrorist activity along the western border. The two governments will consult in the area of alien smuggling and points of contact were named in the Non-Paper. The GOP mentioned the need for building its coast guard capacity.

A key area of cooperation is the exchange of wanted persons by the two governments. GOP will bring to trial four fugitives wanted in US for Panam 73 Jet crash, it says. GOP will look into extradition of 6 persons wanted by the US: Nasir Ali Khan, Mohammed Cheema, Abdus Sattar Khan, Mohammed Ashraf, Syed Ali, Mohammed Rafiq Khan and Omar Malik. It is not mentioned why these six persons are wanted by the US authorities.

GOP will also advise regarding the disposition of 1994 appeal of Tariq Jamil and provide additional information for extradition of Mir Kazim Shah while expediting extradition to US of Mohammed Haris Hasan. In which case he is wanted is not clear.

Pakistan, on the other hand has been promised that the former PPP Chief Minister of Sindh, Syed Abdullah Shah, wanted by the Musharraf Government, will be extradited if he was still found in the US. “Revised requests will be sent for Abdullah Shah and Munawar and US will finalise requests and undertake proceedings if these fugitives are located in US,” the Non-Paper says.

On another issue, the document reveals that the US had rejected a request by Pakistan’s Anti-Narcotics Force (ANF), saying “it cannot provide dedicated helicopter support.” But an agreement for a $73 million Border Security Project is being finalized

South Asia Tribune :hehe:

PT, what is wrong with south asia tribune? Did I miss anything? I really do not know.

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PT, what is wrong with south asia tribune? Did I miss anything? I really do not know.
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If they cannot refute the news, refute the news paper.

Standard tactic.

The documents are authentic, the Pak govt hasn't denied that they are.

It is pretty damning. US pretty much dictates to Mush as to what to do.

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PT, what is wrong with south asia tribune? Did I miss anything? I really do not know.
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Nope, you didn't.

Just look at the name : South Asia Tribune.

Why can't it be Pak Tribune? Website talks about Pak only buddy.

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Nope, you didn't.

Just look at the name : South Asia Tribune.

Why can't it be Pak Tribune? Website talks about Pak only buddy.
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PT, the website is run by Shehaan Sheabi. In the past I thought he was very respectable. I assume he is calling it South Asian because he is really trying to run the website out of USA, because that is where he is located now, and he probably thinks it is a good business decision since he wants to cater to the Indian community market also. However, I don't think that by itself means that his journalism has become suspect or his loyalty to Pakistan has been corrupted. Does it?

Interestingly, the main subjects include US seeking Pakistani assistance in the probe into the hijack of Indian airlines flight IC-814 to Kandahar.

http://www.satribune.com/archives/sep02_06_02/nonpapers-4.jpg

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This is reported by Shaheen Sehabi (The News General Editor that was fired under pressure from the Musharaff Government ). It can be embarrassing for King Musharaff and his 'team'.
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Whats embarassing? The leak of this report? or How the Mush govt. is providing support to the US authorities? Or the fact that this person was fired and now has all the reason to be pissed at Mush :D

Please elaborate.

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Whats embarassing? The leak of this report? or How the Mush govt. is providing support to the US authorities? Or the fact that this person was fired and now has all the reason to be pissed at Mush :D

Please elaborate.
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To an extent all of the above.
I do not know how independent or grudge holding is the editior. This article does not project any opinions however so the grudge against mush is a minor issue.
If the report was leaked, and it does not look as if Mush wants to leak it then someone is not duly impressed and is working at cross purposes with mush and must be someone in or near the army. I guess the attempt is to show how much Mush is kow towing to amreeka.

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Lahori yaara,

Mush doesn’t even comment on Sethi and Ayaz views.

Talk about Shaheen :hehe:

I have read Sehbai’s article and am convinced that he is part of the Zionist and Indian Agenda. Here are my observations:-

  1. He says “Freedom of the Press is Under Siege”. Yes he is right upto this point, but not from ISI as he claims. It is Under Siege by the ‘Media Mafia’. They print only those articles and letters which are in line with their agenda. I have posted more than fifty letters to the editor (Newspost) of The News International, but find they don’t surface. One or two letters have been published probably by an oversight of his ‘Media Managers’. The public is forced to read outrageous articles from a pet crop of journalists and there is no avenue and means to correct or contradict their inaccurate and obnoxious views. So much for his ‘Freedom of Press’.

  2. He talks of Daniel Pearl’s murder and boasts that " I was the first local journalist Danny and his wife Mariane contacted last year". Now, with Daniel Pearl’s suspected links with Mossad, one can ask Mr. Saheen Sehbai, what is his link?

  3. Then he blows his bonafides wide open by trying to link ISI’s involvement with the ‘Faked Parliament Attack’ in New Delhi. This is what exactly the Indians wanted and built it up as an excuse to attack Pakistan. This ‘attack’ followed a series of such dramas. The earlier ‘hijacking’ drama was botched up by the Indians and had to be abandoned as a ‘security exercise’. I shall post details and proof that this parliament attack was a fake, engineered by the Indians. Meanwhile ponder on some facts reported in The Hindustan Times:-

  1. ‘Six men in commando uniforms, each having a backpack (the packs were so bulky and heavy that
    one of the ‘terrorists’ was seen falling over it) full of explosives kept in steel boxes. They had hand
    grenades, AK 47 rifles, rockets, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, binoculars, rope, wire,
    batteries.’ Six men with all this paraphernalia, in one Ambassador car.

  2. ‘Secrecy was the key element’, yet they came with sirens blaring and VIP stickers reading “This is the
    property of ministry of home affairs and nobody can stop this car”. “Atal Behari Vajpayee and L.K
    . Advani are Indians and we are going to kill them. They are friends of George Bush”.

  3. The P M was warned of the attack on Parliament 12 hours before the incident. He did not attend the session and was told to stay away. He earlier came ‘down on the opposition stand’ of “opposing POTO in toto” .

  4. It was a well planned attack, yet the terrorists did not know where to go. The car turned left, then reversed and crashed into another car parked there and abandoned. The terrorists climbed over the wall. The CRPF jawans challenged them at every gate.

  5. The bodies of terrorists ‘were fair and clean shaven’. But they arrived in the Capital only a day before. One gets the impression that they were going to a party and not for some suicide mission.
    (All this information has been taken from The Hindustan Times)

  1. Then he lays himself open to question when he claims " Fearing physical attacks (in Pakistan)----- I chose to join my family in the U.S. to live to fight another day". Well! Well! Well!. Yesterday there was a news coverage on CNN where the US Federal Authorities raided the homes of Muslims. An Asian Muslim woman was narrating her harrowing experience followed by a white Muslim woman who broke down in tears and was scared for the safety of Muslims in the US. Yet Mr. Sehbai feels safe in US. What can one say!

  2. His tirade against ‘Islamists’, ‘Islamic Fundamentalism’ and ‘Radical Islam’ gives us a clear picture of his source of indoctrination. These terminologies have been coined by the west to defame and deride Islam and build up world wide support in their so called “War Against Terrorism”.

I’m sorry to say that our media (with some exceptions) has been sold out. Try to get any pro-Pakistani or Pro-Islamic article published in the media and you will find for your self.
Let me quote excerpts from The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion translated by Victor E. Marsden.

http://www.davidicke.net/tellthetruth/history/protocols.html#protocol_12
"3. We shall deal with the press in the following way: what is the part played by the press to-day? It serves to excite and inflame those passions which are needed for our purpose or else it serves selfish ends of parties. It is often vapid, unjust, mendacious, and the majority of the public have not the slightest idea what ends the press really serves. We shall saddle and bridle it with a tight curb: we shall do the same also with all productions of the printing press, for where would be the sense of getting rid of the attacks of the press if we remain targets for pamphlets and books?

“13. In order to direct our newspaper militia in this sense we must take special and minute
care in organizing this matter. Under the title of central department of the press we shall institute literary gatherings at which our agents will without attracting attention issue the orders and watchwords of the day.”

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tshombe:

:smiley: :hehe: :rotfl: :hehe: :smiley:

What a joke…

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You know better PT. I’ll take your word for it. Nice New Avatar!

So the US is helping Pakistan get technologically advanced in terms of security and police work...how is this a bad thing...?

At least it'll give the govt the opportunity to clean out the smuggling and terrorism in Pakistan. And if you're not doing anything wrong, what do you have to fear of a camera eyeing you at an airport?

Why is it that everything somehow gets turned against Musharraf? If that man came to Pakistan with 1 million dollars for every being, he'd get labelled a chor instead of being thanked.

Sometimes, I dont think Pakistanis deserve a good government.

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You know better PT.

I just proof you. Musharraf doesn't even give his comments whatever Media in Pakistan says about him. Why would he ever care about the people giving comments about him and his Govt. abroad?

*Nice New Avatar! *

Thanks :)

Has anyone even bothered to read the article. Apart from training Pakistani intelligence agencies and provision of sophisticated equipment, there is nothing else really which in anyway undermines Pakistan's sovereignty. What's the big deal if Pakistan is seeking help from the US for modernizing its law enforcement and intelligence agencies..?

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Has anyone even bothered to read the article. Apart from training Pakistani intelligence agencies and provision of sophisticated equipment, there is nothing else really which in anyway undermines Pakistan's sovereignty. What's the big deal if Pakistan is seeking help from the US for modernizing its law enforcement and intelligence agencies..?
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Notta big deal