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So wait the boat was an hour into Indian waters? So that means it was pretty close to India, so how do they know it was a Pakistani boat or that it originated in Pakistan?
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What a pathetic attempt by a so called 'intelligence' agency to spill out everything in communication, lol ???
Le us wait for more details.
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Come on man.. You can't fabricate .. Oops I mean figure out "details" yet..?!
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Come on man.. You can't fabricate .. Oops I mean figure out "details" yet..?!
May be in one or two days.
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Drama by Indians to hide what their cowards did at the border. Pathetic to say the least.
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Way too many india pak clashes these days .. given mistrust on both sides, any of this incidence can turn into a much bigger catastrophic event, i fear.
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Zafra - really man? what part of ‘Karachi’ is difficult for you to understand? just go read what the OP posted that started this thread - you will find what conversation.:smack: after all the mobile phone conversations that Pak terrorists and military people have got caught with, you should know what it means when a report says intercepted conversation.
@SID_NY - is OP clear to you now?
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Drama by Indians to hide what their cowards did at the border. Pathetic to say the least.
drama keema kuchnai...desperation setting in in Pakistan as usual. They are unable to do anything about ttp; unable to translate 20pp to action. so what does Pakistan do when things get too hot inside? they create violence outside ...or at least try to. They tried in the land border to sneak terrorists in and got shot; then I guess they try the sea route
mind you, it could just be smugglers on the sea route side, we have to await investigation. Fishing boats don't blow themselves up when chased - it's gotta be smugglers or terrorists.
Let's hope Pak Navy will cooperate in the investigation
Re: Pak vessel explodes itself after Indian Navy's chase.
drama keema kuchnai...desperation setting in in Pakistan as usual. They are unable to do anything about ttp; unable to translate 20pp to action. so what does Pakistan do when things get too hot inside? they create violence outside ...or at least try to. They tried in the land border to sneak terrorists in and got shot; then I guess they try the sea route
mind you, it could just be smugglers on the sea route side, we have to await investigation. Fishing boats don't blow themselves up when chased - it's gotta be smugglers or terrorists.
Let's hope Pak Navy will cooperate in the investigation
That first bit of "analysis" is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. Clearly you know nothing of Pakistan's internal politics. Fail.
What tells you the fight against the TTP is going poorly? Why would the Pakistani govt need too or want to send militants to India when their attention is entirely internal. Who are they trying to distract by shifting attention to India? All major political parties incuding the Army are on the same page over the issue... So why would they need to distract anyone?
Boats have gas cylinders, they have fuel canisters... The boat was set on fire, or caught fire, and then the explosion occurred. Another words, it could have been a gas cylinder... But your media has already started calling it a "terror boat." Idiots!
I wont deny it. Its possible some militant group is trying to distract the Pakistani govt from the war against the TTP and others, but to believe it definently that is premature, and to claim its Pakistan state sponsored is beyond absurd. Just seems like you Indians dont know who to blame.
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And how do they know it was karachi? GPS on fishing boats now? :hehe:
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Intercepted conversation? I would love to hear some of these. Where can I download one of these intercepts.
They were waving Pak flag and had ISI ID cards with everything investigators will ever need. Stupid agents.
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wait for new stories from both sides , Wait for truth , some later or never
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Both sides..which both sides? There are no two sides, just one-way traffic of bad gas after a lot of constipation.
You read the whole plot and you can easily see the twist how indian naval saw some fishing boat sinking while at the same time, one of their santary who had masala dosa in dinner, farted so they thought its some explosion. And instead of trying to save poor fishermen they gave this whole Ramaen. :cobra:
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Actually we don't have our version yet , There is hunting of fishing boats from the both sides . and there is also some smuggling .
After Bombay attacks we are on weak side so our side is always blamed for terrorism . Cruel international establishments & establishments of India and Pakistan always favor to create tension .
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This is from Indian Express. Sounds like bs story to me. India may have killed people in the international waters and it will have consequences.
Less than 48 hours after the Coast Guard destroyed a boat it suspected was ferrying explosives and terrorists from Pakistan into Indian waters, new evidence has begun to emerge that the victims of the operation might have been small-time liquor and diesel smugglers, ferrying bootleg cargo from the port of Gwadar to other fishing boats which were to have carried it into Karachi’s Keti Bandar harbour.
There is also a suggestion of use of disproportionate force since the fishing boat did not have an engine capable of outrunning Indian interceptors.
In a press release, the Ministry of Defence said that “as per the intelligence inputs received on 31st December, a fishing boat from Keti Bunder near Karachi was planning some illicit transaction in Arabian Sea”.
Highly-placed government sources, however, said the intelligence had no link to terrorism, and made no reference to any threat to India. Instead, the sources said, the National Technical Research Organisation had intercepted mobile phone traffic involving small-time smugglers operating out of the fishing port of Keti Bandar, near Karachi.
The report, the sources said, was issued directly to the Coast Guard and Navy by a mid-level NTRO official in violation of systems which mandate that any possible threat must be shared with all relevant services, including the Intelligence Bureau, the Research and Analysis Wing, and the Border Security Force.
Naval headquarters, the sources said, chose not to deploy ships in response to the intelligence, noting that it did not involve any threat to national security. However, the Coast Guard scrambled at least one interceptor from Porbandar, which was seen leaving dock by local fishermen late on the night of New Year’s Eve.
A senior Gujarat Police official said that the Coast Guard did not share the information with the state police which also has interceptor boats and coastal police stations meant to interdict coastal trafficking. Maharashtra Police officials also said they were given no information on a maritime operation underway on December 31, and expressed surprise since the state has several landing points and jetties that could be used by a boat carrying explosives to India’s western seaboard.
“You don’t need to be a genius to figure out we should have been told,” the official said, “because if the fishing boat was actually carrying explosives and managed to evade patrols on the seas, we should have been in position waiting for it.”
**There is little clarity, so far, on the circumstances under which lethal force was used. In its press release, the Ministry said that a “hot pursuit continued for nearly one hour and the Coast Guard ship managed to stop the fishing boat after firing warning shots”.
“Four persons were seen on the boat who disregarded all warnings by the Coast Guard ship to stop and cooperate with investigation. Soon thereafter, the crew hid themselves in below-deck compartment and set the boat on fire, which resulted in explosion and major fire on the boat,” the release stated.
But three naval officers told The Indian Express it was inconceivable that Pakistani fishing boats — typically four-crew vessels, with an average length of less than 25 metres and equipped with 80-220 horsepower diesel engines, or smaller mechanised sailboats with 30 horsepower engines — could outrun the Coast Guard’s state-of-the-art ships.
Photographs released to media showed only fire damage to the ship’s hull, which would have blown apart had incendiary munitions, such as grenades or ammunition, been on board. Plastic explosive does not ordinarily explode in fires, and only chemical analysis can detect if it was on board. Ministry sources said the Coast Guard has not retrieved debris from the area for forensic analysis.**
The Ministry’s press release also said that “due to darkness, bad weather and strong winds, the boat and persons on board could not be saved or recovered”.
However, open-source meteorological data for the Porbandar coast for the year-end shows conditions were almost ideal right through the second fortnight of December 15, 2014 to January 1, with cloudless skies and, on December 31-January 1. There were no bad-weather warnings for Indian fishermen in the region through this period.
Local fishermen said they had not seen the fire on December 31— raising the prospect that the incident may have occurred in international waters, some distance from the thousands of Indian and Pakistani fishing boats in the area.
“I’ve been talking to our people in the area”, said Narsibhai Jungi Jadeja, the head of the Porbandar fishing boat owners’ association, “and everyone insists they didn’t see a thing. That surprises me, because a fire at night would be visible many nautical miles away”.
“I just hope the government clears up the mystery over this, because if any Pakistani fishermen have been killed, the Pakistan navy will take vengeance on us,” he said.
Saeed Baloch, the head of the Pakistan Fisherfolk Forum, said he was investigating the identity of the destroyed boat, but had no immediate details. “Hundreds of people go out to sea every day, and it is impossible for us to keep track of all of them. I just hope some poor people trying to make a living have not been killed,” he said.
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The boat Indians were chasing belonged to some smugglers which had turn signals.
They showed left turn signal,...... ....but turned to the right, and disappeared.
In shear embarrassment Indians destroyed another little boat... and made up the story.
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You mean something like this - Nothing new, I remember in one of similar dramas they heard the hijackers and they were all Pakis… LOL
BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | India’s hoax hijack drama
India’s hoax hijack drama
Civil aviation ministry officials told reporters that the two hijackers were males “who spoke little English” and “have something in their hands”.
Intelligence officials also told The Associated Press that the pair had asked for flight plans for Karachi and Lahore, in Pakistan. They were also said to have requested two engineers.
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^:hehe: