Pak Teams Captaincy issue--Osman Samiuudin

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I think its a very well written article and best read on this topic.

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Should you shoot the sheriff and promote the deputy? That’s the question Pakistan cricket is facing © Getty Images
Activism, dissent, protest, resistance, stirrings of the status quo; they’ve all been in Pakistan’s air recently, from the mass urban youth mobilization after the earthquake of October through to the Danish cartoon riots and finally, the visiting World Social Forum in Karachi this week. So too it is with the captaincy of the cricket team.
The day after Pakistan lost to India in his hometown Multan, one paper alleged that Inzamam-ul-Haq’s ODI leadership was the subject of serious debate by the PCB’s ad-hoc committee. Khalid Hussain, a senior sports journalist, asked last week in an article whether Inzamam’s time as captain had come. His answer wasn’t forthcoming, but ex-players on TV haven’t been as coy.
They shot the sheriff and they promoted the deputy - Younis Khan. Imran Khan, it feels, has championed Younis from the day he retired himself. Some have said Younis should replace Inzamam as ODI captain, a few have said he should be Test captain too and some still have said Inzamam should be dropped from the ODI team altogether. The PCB might have retained him till the end of the year (hardly a guarantee) but debate, basically, has begun and this is a contribution to it.
Aside from having, in common with Sourav Ganguly, the ability to rile la famille Chappell (at least judging from Ian’s recent, sustained TV savaging of Inzamam while commentating), what’s the beef with Inzamam? His back is a serious one and unlikely, in his 36th year, to get better. It has prompted him to consider picking his matches, a scenario ideal for no one.
It is argued he’s not proactive, no great strategist, sets a poor example in the field and has worse body language. Even if he is (and it’s hardly as simple as that) he’s been the same all along. And although in Tests, his form brooks no argument, his batting in ODIs hasn’t been special; while not as out of sync as at the 2003 World Cup, he has faded since the series in India last year, only two fifties in 14 matches.
But anyway his strength has been elsewhere; in somehow bringing calm into the dressing room, in gelling with Bob Woolmer, in forging a formidable spirit, in the galvanizing effect of his batting. If you’re the type to look to numbers, then seven wins, seven draws and six losses is an even spread as captain. And as yesterday’s Numbers Game pointed out, he stands behind only The Don and the new Don (Ricky Ponting) as the most successful Test batsmen as captain ever (averaging over 61). The series loss to India only came at the end of a rare and wildly successful home season and Sri Lanka were beaten straight after.

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Younis Khan: ‘he’s fresh, he is the future, ostensibly popular, at a good moment in his career and on little evidence, an apt candidate’ © Getty Images

What about Younis? Everything seems opportune about him right now. He is just at that age (28), with enough international experience (six years, 43 Tests, 100-plus ODIs and over a year as vice-captain) and in good enough batting form to be an ideal successor. Additionally, the times he has led - sessions or matches - he has imparted energy and hustle on the field, in stark contrast to Inzamam. He captained Pakistan to the Karachi win against India and did well by most accounts.
But he also presided over a catastrophic loss to the West Indies last year, during which he had a serious bust-up with Shahid Afridi. And if you take away India, people will always ask questions about his batting (his average falls from 47 to 37 without). So make him an ODI captain?
ODIs offer no clarity either, they really don’t. For one, does he even warrant an automatic place in the ODI side? The career average isn’t too clever and coincidentally, his recent record is identical to Inzamam’s. And just where should he bat? Given he averages 22 at one down, those who push for it say it from theory (the best batsman should be there) and little else.
And there is also the matter of timing. If any such change is to happen, it is only a year before the World Cup and so, ideally, should happen soon. On paper Inzamam is safe till the year’s end, but if Pakistan lose in England and a few ODIs here and there, what odds on sacking a captain and a cantankerous build-up to the World Cup? In Pakistan, not long ones. Add to it the alleged threat Inzamam made to the ad-hoc committee that he would not play unless it was as captain. Can Pakistan afford to lose Inzamam altogether?
Actually, forget all this because, ultimately, my personal feeling is it boils down to a question that has flummoxed the best of us for centuries. Does the heart decide or the head? The former says Inzamam; he’s done much as captain, maybe he could have done more but in two years, he’s done plenty. The World Cup offers a natural end to his cycle, possibly a memorable one. Loyalty doesn’t always need justification. The latter says Younis; he’s fresh, he is the future, ostensibly popular, at a good moment in his career and on little evidence, an apt candidate. Change is generally with good reason and often necessary. Heart or head: answers on email please.

Re: Pak Teams Captaincy issue--Osman Samiuudin

personally i dont see the captaincy as an issue. the pcb has said they're going to keep him captain til the wc- so why are the media and fans drawing up possible scenario's for a successor?

the problem lies in the odi loss to india. us paki's dont take losses to india too easily. if you look at the broader picture though, inzamam as captain has accomplished a lot of positive things.

maybe not during games, but his united-team-attitude will serve well in the long-run.

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In my mind, its not a Younis issue at all. As the article states Younis is 28. He still has plenty of cricket left in him. One year here or there doesn't really matter. The real issue is whether having Inzi as captain bodes well for Pak's world cup chances or not. This is a tricky question. While without doubt Inzi brings the team together and unified behind him (not to say that Younis can't do that as well, given appropriate authority), his on-field captaincy is probably the worse I have seen in recent memory.

Is it fair to attribute Pak's fabulous last year to Inzi's captaincy? Probably not. It may just be "despite his captaincy", rather than "due to his captaincy".

However, in the larger scheme of things, no one really expects Pak to win the World Cup anyway, so lets not get too hung up on it. Inzi shall play it out till WC '07 and then retire. Younis becomes captain, and then we restart the runup to WC '11.

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I do not believe that is right.
I consider Pak to be a very strong one day side (strong bowling and batting all the way to number 9) and therefore a reasonable contender to WC'07.

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We are not talking about "talent/potentials" of players, talent/potential alone can't win you games all the time, even if they can for "more number of times than not" still doesn't make it "strong contender". How Inzi utilizes his resources is the real issue, we have seen already umpteenth number of times letting go of opposition.

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Some1, I don't seriously expect Pak to win the World Cup. Yeah, we should go to the Super Six stage, andhopefully even to the semis. Getting to the final will be pushing it, and winning the cup will be a minor miracle. Its not that we are not talented enough (most teams are); or we are not motivated enough (many teams are). Its just that the delta between the best team out there, and our team is quite wide. Yeah, so on our day we can win against anyone (just as Bangladesh did beat Aus once upon a time), but I, for one, don't want to pin all our hopes on winning the cup. A good showing with solid fighting qualities is all we want to see.

So, any argument that says Inzi should stay on as captain so Pak can win the World Cup, or that Inzi should leave captaincy so Pak should win, is just rhetorical and inane, in my mind. In any case, there is more to cricket than World Cup.

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I agree with Faisal. I think with more and more critisism being surfaced over Inzimam's slow thinking and not so proactive captaincy, PCB can put some pressure on him to learn from his mistake and act according to the situation in ODIs instead of his usual lazy 18th century cricketing mindset. One thing PCB can do is to make him take advise (or listen to) YK, when YK thinks there needs to change a bowler or field. Because before Inzi realizes, its too late for the team. Acting upon the advice given to him is totally upto him and he will be responsible for whatever happens afterwards. I think this will well re-define the role of both captain and his deputy. And if Inzi can't take advice of his junior or have problem consulting YK etc then its simply EGO issue and it will show that he is not puting team's betterment before himself. Its a Akhtar type situation in a new form.

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Inzi is a great batsman...but definetly not a leader. Yes, he brought the team together and got rid of all the rifts and ego problems in the team. But its just not these things which make a good team. Time and time again we have seen Inzi doing unbelievably stupid things on the field. Bowling changes, to field placements...its just there. Captaincy is not everyone's cup of tea....and it certainly it Inzi's. Just like a good player isnt always a good coach..a great player isnt always a good captain.

For the sake of the team...I would like to retain Inzi as a batsman...and make YK the captain. In the games which I have seen YK captain...he raises his game to the next level. Especially his fielding is amazing when he is in the field. One reason I believe why Pakistan's fielding standards dont improve is because of the example set by Inzamam in the field due to his own poor fielding standards. Yes he is a safe slip catcher but there is more to fielding than jus standing in the slips.

Even though I know its not gonna happen...but I would love to see YK captain the side while Inzamam can play as a captain. And im not saying this because we lost the ODI series to India. Even when the Pakistani team was winning...I was never happy with Inzi's captaincy. His approach is too laid back to be a captain. Yes, the team is producing good results...but its because of the players performing up to their potential...but I have hardly seen any game where we would be able to point out Inzi's captaincy to winning a match...except for maybe a couple sparks he showed here and there. Its a tough situation...but under Inzi...I dont see Pakistan achieving more than what it is right now...under him it will always be a medicore team...due to his medicore captaincy.

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Bang on target the entire post! Very good points noted, with precisely the one above.

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Guys do not forget that Younus Khan is a mediocre batsman, exclude his record against India and he is even less than mediocre.

And we do not know how well a captain he can be.

I say lets groom Shoaib Malik for captaincy, he is KOOOOOOOOL

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To remove Inzi from captaincy or even worse from the ODI team would be a "recipe" to disaster. I am not sure why these news are so much around at the wrong time. Younis Khan is surely a good contender. But it's the time that matters the most. Inzi has united the team and is well respected by each member of the team. True, that Pak has never won due to Inzi's captaincy except a few times, but rather through Inzi doing the build up job in the batting line up and our teams' fighting spirit.

Younis Khan is definitely a strong contender but his record in ODIs doesn't really make him strong enough to be a captain just yet. It would be much better if we can just get over the captaincy issue right now and let's see how the team fares in Eng. Even then, grass is always greener on the other side and let's just be optimistic about the team.

Pak team, as of now, is well built up and any "irrational" changes can tear up the team and that is something to be avoided. It took 3 long years to build a team as strong as now. If you don't remember, WC 2003 was the epitome of Pak team tearing down. On the paper, we had the best ballers and batsmen, but we were as foolproof as much we could have been, so let's think on team making rather than team breaking.

Umer