Dil to chahraha hain ke bollon aap ne mere dil kee baat cheen lee, me to very bad comp exam
congratz Pak
waccha gonna do
tell me
waccha gonna do when … runs wild on you?
Now I have more respect towards Indian cricket fans. Each and everyone so far congratulated and praised Pakistan to an extent that came as a surprise to me!
Check out the sports section of Times of india and read ppl's reply. We should learn something from them and also hope Indians revive their level of cricket surely they have tremendous talent but unfortunately its not yet being exposed!
I read those replies and most of them talk about how bad Aus played, those jealous feaks!
I can careless, as long as Pakistan continue to dominate one day cricket, and improve on test matches, nobody can beat the big green machine, with the bowling lineup of the top 3 fast bowlers in the world today and soon to join the squad, the 2nd best spinner in the world and the best allrounder in the world.
We won without Saqlain and Razzaq, that should be shame for the Kookoburras.
I think the 2 man to go will be Afridi and Azhar when saqi and razzler comes back.
No chance in the world for any team to beat us now.
Who's next?
Congratulations guys for beating the aussies in their own backyard.
Well said Umair, but I won’t agree on the last part. I think Azhar and Younus Khan should DEPART and Afridi should stay. Razzaq should replace Azhar and Saqlain should replace Younus Khan.
I know Younus khan saved the 2nd match but you got Razzaq to do the same thing. So he covers Younus khan. And Afridi should stay cuz you need someone like him who could come in the last 10 overs or the first 10 overs to do the damage. Plus you get one extra bowler and that is something not a part time bowler a full time bowler. As far as the batting goes for Younus Khan and Afridi I think Afridi has better chance. I know I know you guys are going to say that is stupid. But believe me that would be the best lineup.
Man you should have seen Afridi last night the way he was charged up. He got run out NOT because of his own fault it was Youhana. I can guaranty if Afridi had stayed for few more overs PAK would have crossed 300 runs.
**Heres my favorite GREEN MACHINE LINE UP. Ofcourse the order don’t matter apart from the openers you can shuffle to suite as required.
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- Saeed Anwar
- Imran Nazir
- Yousaf Youhana
- Inzimam ul Haq
- Abdul Razzaq
- Shahid Afridi
- Rashid Latif
- Waseem Akram
- Saqlain Mushtaq
- Waqar Younus
- Shoaib Akhtar**
I see your point Q, Afridi has simply amazed me with his bowling, and he is an ideal one day spinner, he is the guy you count on to bowl all 10 overs.
His batting has dissapponted me very much though, Younis Khan who has scored 50+ in 4 of his last 7 innings is a really solid one day batsman, its still tough on who will go out.
Its time like this where you can wish that cricket should have 12 players.
My team for the World Cup and matches before.
1.) Saeed Anwar
2.) Imran Nazir
3.) Yousuf Youhana
4.) Inzimam-ul-Haq
5.) Younis Khan
6.) Abdul Razzaq
7.) Rashid Latif
8.) Wasim Akram
9.) Waqar Younis
10.) Shoaib Akhtar
11.) Saqlain Mushtaq
extras
12.) Shahid Afridi
13.) Shoaib Malik
14.) Muhammad Sami
The biggest upset of the tournament was Azhar Mahmood as I expected him to be more of economical bowler and good batsman after coming back from county cricket.
This should send a message to PCB about sending players to county cricket because its no use.
But I have to feel sorry for Azhar because poor kid bowled his heart out but what can you do when your'e bowling along the 3 best bowlers in the world.
I did expected from Azhar what he did. No doubt I feel sorry for the poor guy but something which is called talent he doesn’thave that. He is given so many chances but I don’t think he has the talent to perform even if we did not had the world class bowlers. On the other hand look at Abdul Razzaq, as far I remember they both joined the GREEN MACHINE CLUB same time and look at Abdul Razzaq. I think PCB gave a lot of chances to Azhar but he simply could not perform thats because I don’t see him as an attacking player he simply do not have the talent.
Again this my opinion so don’t burst on me
Thats the dream team for the world cup… But for some reason, I dont trust the batting even though it has depth, even in that match it was Akram who hammered hard in the end!! But then again, this is the best batting line up we can have… Azhar, well I dont know but he was a great player(cuz hes from my pindi) but dont know whats gone wrong with him…
Spock PA no doubt this is the dream team and the batting line with depth. But what you are saying that at the end Waseem had to do the hammer is because
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Saeed was NOT out when he was looking dangrous.
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Rashid Latif was NOT out
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Inzi was struggling with his knee injury
Take that into considration and then tell me if you still don’t trust the batting line. Given if the umpires were nutral PAK would have gone for 300+ easily I am sure it would have been easy to pass 300. I tape the match you can see yourself if those OUT’s were really out or NOT.
can i somehow ?
puhleeezzzzz ?
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
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** can i somehow ?
puhleeezzzzz ?
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Well I can certainly send it to you guys but HOW?
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** Well I can certainly send it to you guys but HOW?**
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which format do you have ? digital or vhs ?
If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame.
BAYWAQOOF its in VHS
Did anyone notice that WASEEM has equal the record of most ODI playing player with Azhar-u-Deen. That is 334
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** I agree McGrath is over-rated. He is a 'mechanical bowler'. All six balls are in the same spot...good line and length and thats about it. He should play for Sri Lanka or India.
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The Game Responds:
*The People's ARTIST has been stating that for the past two years; but what do you shmucks do? You only flame me for stating that *fact*. Learn to appreciate some knowledgable comments on cricket, you ignorant shmucks. People, That Is All.*
Do you see what The People's ARTIST is painting here?
McGrath has the ability to deliver very tight deliveries not giving the batsman any room and some times batsman get tempted to hit him for fours and get out.
Good economic bowler but no where close to being good as Pakistani bowlers.
http://www.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2002/JUN/019381_CI_19JUN2002.html
Pakistan were not at their best or their sharpest. There was a batting collapse in all three matches of the Super Challenge Series. Their fielding was at best patchy, and so was the bowling, more so in the first game. With Abdul Razzaq and Saqlain Mushtaq adding weight to their bank accounts by preferring to feature in county cricket than play for their country, it was not a full strength team either.
Furthermore, they had an elite and an Australian umpire to contend with too. At least three decisions went against them in the second game. The situation was even worse in the third, as the vast majority of verdicts quite inexplicably went against the visitors. So repetitive were the mistakes, regarding them all as cases of human error would require lots of imagination.
Yet the Pakistanis emerged victorious, beating the best team in the world quite convincingly in the third game to make it 2-1. So convincing was the win that with 31 overs still to go, the Aussies were down and out. Reduced to eight for 83, they didn’t have a ghost of a chance. Before the last rites, they reached 165 but not without their highest scorer, all-rounder Shane Watson, benefiting from the umpires’ largesse and two dropped chances. Ironically it was substitute Shoaib Malik and Younis Khan - otherwise the best of Pakistani fielders from the quartet that includes Imran Nazir and Shahid Afridi - who spilled the catches.
But it didn’t matter. With the run rate spiralling up quickly, the Pakistanis were under no threat of losing the match and with it the series. Their grit had got them through in the second game, and in the series decider, despite some moments of madness especially while batting, they were all over Australia.
**This series win is significant, in more ways than one. Pakistan have beaten indisputably the best team in the world, in an away series. They have done it in a manner, despite so many chinks in every department, that was quite impressive. Secondly, since the '99 World Cup final, the green shirts had lost all crunch games to Australia. Indeed, they had not just been defeated in those games - the 2000 World Series Cup finals and last year in the NatWest Trophy at Lord’s - they were humbled and humiliated. It was not their skills that were in question, but their mental strength.
In the third, decisive match of the Challenge Series they handed the Aussies a dose of their own medicine. Needless to say, it wasn’t very palatable for the hosts, but it should bury the bogey of Pakistanis lacking mental strength for quite some time to come. Especially if the doses are repeated in the three-nation one-day tournament and the Test series that Pakistan has to play against the Aussies later this year, though where these would be played, if at all, is a point of conjecture at the moment.
The best thing about the win, however, was the teamwork and the never-say-die spirit. They came from one match down, a bruising defeat that hurts the ego. In both the matches they won, Pakistan’s wickets fell in a cluster. Yet Pakistan went on to win the second tie, though it went down to the wire, and post a highly competitive total in the third, and then bowled the Aussies out of the match well before the midway stage in the second innings.
While Younis Khan proved his tenacity and class once again at Melbourne, only one innings of substance was delivered by three of Pakistan’s leading maestros - Inzamam-ul-Haq, Yousuf Youhana and Saeed Anwar. That said, in the context of the result of the series, Youhana’s 65 off 85 deliveries was quite important, and he atoned for the two run outs he engineered to nearly complete Pakistan’s collapse by doing a neat job on running out Adam Gilchrist.
Akram played a superb cameo, a 32-ball 49 which included two sixes off Glenn McGrath on successive deliveries in the penultimate over to take Pakistan soaring to 256. It was one of Akram’s most memorable innings, and it reminded all of the 19-ball 33 which had decimated England in the '92 World Cup final as much as his two wickets in the middle of the innings then. And Akram’s bowling too must have silenced quite a few doubters. He literally made the ball talk to set Pakistan on course to leveling the series in the second game, and got the first breakthrough in the third.
In both of Pakistan’s victories, Shoaib Akhtar started skimming through the Aussie order once Akram and Younis were pulled out of the attack. Unarguably the best first change bowler in the world now, Shoaib’s pace and accuracy was too hot to handle. Other than Jason Gillespie, four out of his five victims were top batsmen; three were either bowled or leg before. A testament to his precision. And the way he got Michael Bevan, shuffling back to freeze at the crease and guiding the ball to the 'keeper, reflects the awe he inspires even in the best batsmen. **
Then, as if that trial by pace was not enough, there was Afridi wheeling away his fastish leg spin, enjoying the bounce off the wicket, not giving away many runs and winkling out wickets to boot.
All in all a super team effort; one which Waqar and his charges deserve to savour for a while. More so because it would go a long way in re-igniting faith and self-esteem in themselves.
A word on umpiring.
If one recalls Sunil Gavaskar’s comments made to Tony Greig regarding Australian umpiring following Sri Lanka’s controversial tour in 1997, it would not come as a surprise that umpiring down-under has arguably evolved into one of the most biased in world cricket. In both matches that Pakistan won, the umpires, both the Australian and the third-country one from the ICC’s elite panel, gave decisions clearly not fitting the highest level, though this did not prevent the world champions from crumbling in face of a characteristically fierce bowling performance from the touring side.
Saeed Anwar was adjudged caught at first slip off his pads, Rashid Latif was adjudged caught behind after playing through the air. Similarly, when bowling, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar and Shahid Afridi all came to grief because of the umpires’ decisions, despite replays showing there was not much doubt to cloud their judgment. A fact acknowledged in most cases by the Aussie experts too on the TV. We also had the case of Inzamam being declared not out after he had cut a ball into the 'keeper’s gloves.
These incidents could be passed as oversights if one did not bear in mind the unfortunate history of recent umpiring and the quality of the ‘elite’ too. It would be going too far to suggest umpires could resort to foul play merely to keep one side or the other at the top, but one can understand how such suspicions surface. Such incidents, even recently in the West Indies, not only undermine the professionalism of the teams but also project an image that hardly becomes any team.
Really if it wasn't for the racist umpires Pakistan would have knocked out Australia less than 100 in 2nd game and should have scored 300+ in the 3rd game.
Pakistan Ka matlab Kya?
La Illaha Illalah!
Hindustan Ka Matlab Kya?
Ham Ko kya, Bhatr mai Ja!