Pak-russia-china alliance???

The Pakistan risk
Paul Rogers

Between a reproachful Washington, a rivalrous India, and a restive Afghan border, might Pervez Musharraf play the Chinese-Russian card?

North Waziristan theatre

The fighting in North Waziristan has for the moment receded, but what happens there in the next few weeks could shape military outcomes in the region, and even political outcomes in Pakistan, in the months to come. North Waziristan and its neighbouring areas directly straddle the routes between Pakistan and Afghanistan. These include the corridors through which Taliban and other paramilitaries are developing the logistical supply-lines for the anticipated spring offensive against both the Afghan government and its western (United States and Nato) military allies.

2006 is expected to be the first year since their withdrawal from Kabul in November 2001 when Taliban units take the offensive on a large scale. In order to maximise their effect, they need safe access to and from Pakistan. Musharraf is therefore under considerable pressure from Washington to sustain military activity on the Pakistani side of the border; yet the more he does this, the more he is likely to provoke local antagonism to his regime.

Much will now hinge on whether Musharraf decides to continue the military operation in the border regions. The domestic political risk is severe; so too is the potential benefit in terms of the kudos he may earn in Washington. If, however, the Bush administration does not respond to Musharraf’s efforts, he may respond by scaling down operations in North Waziristan, thus enabling a more forceful Taliban spring campaign in Afghanistan.

It may seem unlikely that Musharraf would thus jeopardise even the vague hope of support from his principal ally. But his regime may well consider that it has another card to play – its relations with China and Russia.

Beijing has long had a cordial and useful relationship with Islamabad. The positive nature of Musharraf’s visit there on 19-23 February 2006 is reflected in the joint statement released at its conclusion. Russia, too, has no problem with improving its relations with Pakistan, despite its closer historic ties with India.

Both Russia and China, conscious of their overall strategic weaknesses in relation to the world’s sole superpower, would regard improved relations with Islamabad as valuable. Such an outcome, though, is dependent on the Pervez Musharraf regime surviving the next few months. That in turn may depend on what happens in North Waziristan and neighbouring regions as the Taliban’s spring offensive gathers pace.

http://www.opendemocracy.net/themes/article.jsp?id=2&articleId=3337

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naah Russians are pro India..
these Indians have been very clever makin friends all over..
now lot of chinese companies are seen in india and indian companies in china..
example.. huawei.. it has centres in bangalore.. even plans to invest more in india.
It was a blunder made by our president to trust Americans.
Now they have betrayed us.. even our own country men are turnin against us..

God should help our country..

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None of this is a surprise or news. Russia and China are trying to recover from the disaster called communism, without having to openly admit they have failed. When Russia is looking for aid from US, China markets from US and India, their dependecy on US and India is almost as absolute as India and US's dependency for mideast oil.

Pakistan would have been in serious serious integration issues had Musharaf not played the double jeopardy for so long so well. Bush's simple mindedness cartainly helped but he appears to be reading a diffrent chapter now.

That Pakistan has to change playbooks is a given. But changing sides, particularly China or Russia both of whom need India and US will pit Pakistan between 4 giants. At that point will you have Musharaf or someone like him who can play the game that well?

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Chinese-Russian card is an old kommie orgasmic idea that has failed even in China and Russia.

This is a world where every man is to himself. Pakistan is doing just fine so far. However Kommie lefties will make us think as is sky is falling.

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China invites Musharraf to SCO summit.

http://www.pakistanlink.com/Headlines/March06/13/01.htm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060314/wl_sthasia_afp/china_060314072438

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China and India will usher in a “new Asian century,” Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said as he expressed hopes the world’s two most populous countries would build on their improving relations.

“I have a belief, that is when China and India are truly strong enough to fully bring out their own spirit and style, then that will truly usher in a new Asian century,” Wen told a press conference Tuesday.

Wen played down concerns that China and India would become competitors when they became much stronger as they vied for foreign investment, energy and other scarce natural resources, as well as regional influence.

“I hope by then our two countries’ fraternal and friendly relations will still be vibrant… and remain dear to the hearts of the two Oriental nations,” Wen said.

China-India relations have improved in recent years as both countries have made efforts to complement instead of compete with each other’s growth.

The two nations signed a landmark agreement in January to jointly secure energy security, rather than trying to outbid each other to secure reserves.
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It is about the possibility of pak china russia alliance where does india come into the equation and the article you have posted here you have started another thread by “China and India: Competitors or Partners”

So its about pakistan china russia and not india you people complain that pakistanis on this forum bring india into everything and you are doing the same thing

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Indian’s burn up when they see anything connected to Pak-China friendship mentioned, simple as that.

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**China cherishes its strategic partnership with Pakistan: Qin Gang **

China cherishes its strategic partnership with Pakistan and wish to consolidate it in all areas of common interests, said a spokesman of the Chinese Foreign Ministry Qin Gang here Tuesday at a weekly news briefing. He referred to recently concluded visit to China by President Pervez Musharraf and said it brought the two countries further closer to each other. The two sides developed consensus on various regional and international issues and agreed to work together promoting peace, stability and development in region. The Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao also paid a very successful visit to Pakistan last year, during which the two sides signed a Treaty of Friendship, he said adding, China also wishes to develop its friendship with other countries in South Asia to serve the common cause of their people. Diplomatic sources told APP that President Musharraf and the Chinese President Hu Jintao during their meeting held here last month took some important decisions to deepen their strategic relationship. It was decided that the two countries would take 55th anniversary of the establishment of their diplomatic ties as an opportunity to push forward bilateral cooperative partnership to a higher level. Hu made positive response to President Musharraf’s suggestions of making full use of their available resources to meet energy requirements. He indicated that China would like to work with Pakistan in wide-ranging areas of common interests, including defence and economic affairs. The Chinese President assured President Musharraf that China will always support Pakistan’s efforts safeguarding state independence and sovereignty. Meanwhile, Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said that China would continue develop its close interaction and strategic relationship with its neighbouring countries.

Addressing a press conference following the conclusion of the annual session of the Chinese legislature, the Tenth National People’s Congress, he said China pursues a national defense policy of self-defense, and its limited increase of military expenditure is mainly used to improve the living conditions of officers and soldiers and improve self-defense capability. The country’s defence policy is transparent, said Wen, adding that China has never dispatched even one soldier abroad except its peacekeepers, and has not occupied one inch of foreign land. The Chinese premier said China sticks to a road of peaceful development, which primarily results from China’s traditional culture, development needs and national interests, emphasizing that China is already “a responsible country” of the international community. Wen added that through reform and development, China has successfully solved the problem of feeding 1.3 billion people and lifting 200 million out of poverty. After years of efforts, China has found a more scientific development road, which stresses the resources conservation and environmental protection, he said. China firmly carries out an independent foreign policy of peace, and is willing to develop good-neighbourly relationships with surrounding countries, he said. China has taken part in over 100 international organizations and signed nearly 300 international treaties, and is ready to work shoulder by shoulder with the international community for the establishment of a new international political and economic order. The premier said China is a country that firmly safeguards world peace, and resolutely oppose terrorism and nuclear proliferation.

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Nicols I am sure it not naivity on your part SO you must be an idiot!

Case in point: Look at the trade of volume between China AND Japan yet they are not the bestest of allies (infact the opposite still with old enimosities and Japan part of US plan to counter China).

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I would recoomend you to read “The World is Flat” by Thomas Friedman. Business and Economics make allies.

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^ Of all people you had to bring him! :omg:

Did you knwo he also said that india shouldn’t be so pakistan-centric afterall?

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China is fast approaching a GDP of $10 trillion, the same as the USA just a few years ago. We are better placed than others to extend our alliance with China.

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While pakistan remains a lackey depended on US aid state?
I don't see how russia and china (respectable countries) will want to associate strategically with a lackey like Paksitan.