Following the violent days of bombings, grenade attacks and shootings in Pakistan from 2002 until earlier this year, things seem to have calmed down quite bit.
There haven’t been terrorists attacks against Christian gatherings for the past couple of months; no murders of foreigners, no bombings or mass shootings of Shia, relatively little violence against government officials.
Looks like the Pakistan government, ISI, police and all (and I mean ALL) who are helping have been doing a great job of slowly bringing stability to Pakistan’s cities and towns that was threatened in the aftermath of the recent Afghan war, and crushing the wave of urban terrorism that hit us over the past few years.
Whatever the government has done to make this happen, I applaud it, and hence I place complete trust in the government’s internal security actions and plans.
Re: Pak govt. winning against terrorists in Pakistan?
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.....There haven't been terrorists attacks against Christian gatherings for the past couple of months; no murders of foreigners, no bombings or mass shootings of Shia, relatively little violence against government officials.
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Yes. The MAToo Munkees are on the defensive. But the struggle for peaceful Pakistan is not over yet. So far Mullahs have been able to shoot AK47 from their hips in Wana area.
Let's keep our fingers crossed, hope, and pray that Pak-army and the Pak-nation win against the Arrra-bobo inspired terrorists. I hope the coming month of Ramzan brings peace and prosperity to Pakistan.
Im a little skeptical, but right now, the Pakistani Army does have the upper hand, as the fundos couldnt fight them for an extended period of time. Good Job. And lets hope sectarian killings are completely rooted out.
But this raises one important question (I'd also like to hear your views M_S). Could this be seen as a victory for the US as well? Its obvious our Government is doing this under American orders (Im not saying its right or wrong). We do not support their war on terror, but support what our Government is doing on their behest?
It would have been better if the Army had never founded and nurtured these terrorist orgaizations in the first place. Americans are exerting massive diplomatic pressure on the army to curb on this problem. And I hope they would keep the army under pressure until the army roots out this problem entirely and shuns using these islamists for their proxy war in different parts of this region in the future.
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But this raises one important question (I'd also like to hear your views M_S). Could this be seen as a victory for the US as well? Its obvious our Government is doing this under American orders (Im not saying its right or wrong). We do not support their war on terror, but support what our Government is doing on their behest?
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I don't think you can really that the government is doing it at their behest. It just so happens that within the borders of Pakistan, there is significant overlap between what needs to be done in the interest of protecting religious minorities and enable stable government, and the interests of the USA which (for different reasons) is opposed to the elements in Pakistan that were killing minorities and trying to destablise the country.
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also, the pakistan army should call in the airforce often. no need to send in foot soldiers straight in.
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No. There is a reason why Pakistan is using only a tiny fraction of its full firepower - and that is the fact that innocent Pakistani civilians are often living in the target zones. The government is trying to strike a balance between using enough firepower to protect the lives of soldiers, and not using so much firepower as to lead to a civilian slaughter.
The government, quite rightly, would rather a soldier dies than an innocent Pakistani citizen. This is a government that certainly cares about the best interests and well being of its people.
Exactly, if the Americans can make so many target errors with their advanced positioning weapons, so can we, and thats the last thing we would want, getting civilians killed. But I have heard the PAF has been utilized in this operation during the earlier stages, maybe someone can shed some light on that.
Five Rangers, three women killed in row over water
DERA BUGTI: Eight people including five Rangers personnel and 3 women of Bugti tribe were killed and eight tribesmen injured in an armed clash between the Punjab Rangers and tribesmen in a village on the border of Balochistan and Punjab provinces. The Balochistan Liberation Army has claimed responsibility for killing the Rangers. On Saturday morning, reportedly, Punjab Rangers personnel shot dead three women of Bugti tribe in the border village of Jatro Ranjho following an argument over fetching water from a particular source. The victims, Hooran and Aulia Bugti’s wife, belonged to the Shunmai sub-tribe of the Bugtis. Sources said that the argument had started three days ago. Provoked over the killings of their women, armed tribesmen attacked a Rangers’ post later in the day and shot dead five of them. A spokesman for the BLA said that the Rangers had attacked their women and children. In retaliation, they were forced to take action, he added. He warned of more attacks. Home Secretary Tariq Mehmood Khan said he had no details of the incident.
By Joe Holley
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, September 23, 2004; Page B04
Archer Kent Blood, 81, a career diplomat whose Blood Telegram denouncing the complicity of the United States in “genocide” in the former East Pakistan prompted his recall from his post as consul general in Dhaka, died Sept. 3 of arterial sclerosis at a hospital in Fort Collins, Colo. He had lived in Fort Collins since 1993.
Mr. Blood served for 35 years in the State Department, with postings in Greece, Algeria, Germany, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and India
He was the senior official among 20 members of the U.S. diplomatic corps who signed the dissenting cable, which was prompted by the Pakistani military’s brutal crackdown against the Bengali inhabitants of what was known as East Pakistan in March 1971. At least 10,000 civilians were massacred in the first three days; the eventual civilian death toll might have been as high as 3 million. Some 10 million Bengalis, about 13 percent of East Bengal’s population, fled across the border into India.
The first story concerns Rangers, who are not members of the Pakistan army, and who are not even soldiers. They are instead paramilitaries under the command of the Interior Ministry. Furthermore, the only allegations that they were involved in attacking civilians comes from a traitorous organisation, the so-called BLA, which has a vested interest in trying to propose that its actions are justified. Only if law-abiding Pakistani citiznes make such allegations whould they be taken seriously.
Second Point. My comments quite clearly said "this government", ie the Musharraf regime. I don't see what your point is in bringing up the actions of Yahya Khan's regime's actions.
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Two points.
The first story concerns Rangers, who are not members of the Pakistan army, and who are not even soldiers. They are instead paramilitaries under the command of the Interior Ministry. Furthermore, the only allegations that they were involved in attacking civilians comes from a traitorous organisation, the so-called BLA, which has a vested interest in trying to propose that its actions are justified. Only if law-abiding Pakistani citiznes make such allegations whould they be taken seriously.
Second Point. My comments quite clearly said "this government", ie the Musharraf regime. I don't see what your point is in bringing up the actions of Yahya Khan's regime's actions.
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Where did you mention Pakistan Army in your post?
BTW your first point is invalidated by your second.
Firstly your comments did not clearly say "this government".
Secondly given that you are referring to Musharraf's regime, doesn't the Interior Ministry come under his regime too?
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Archer K. Blood; Dissenting Diplomat
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Cameo Flush is now flushing down commie leftie bits and pieces. Quite a desperation these days on Baha-Rat-i and commie leftie supporters. What can I say, carry on your work cameo.
Do stop and look at your great state of Bihar and its King Lallu the Kallu. Your Anal-ytical capa-bilities are sourly needed there.
