Pak Army losing fight in Waziristan/NWFP border

Interesting article in the respected New York Times showing how the militants have beat back the Army and effectively run the region, despite the efforts of the ISI, Commandos and thousands of soldiers

Salient points below, full article at the following link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/international/asia/22pakistan.html?hp&ex=1137992400&en=dfd2ae2562fc9b38&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Pakistan’s Push in Border Areas Is Said to Falter

Two years after the Pakistani Army began operations in border tribal areas to root out members of Al Qaeda and other foreign militants, Pakistani officials who know the area say the military campaign is bogged down, the local political administration is powerless and the militants are stronger than ever.

The tribal areas are off limits to foreign journalists, but the Pakistani officials, and former residents who did not want to be identified for fear of retribution, said the militants - who call themselves Taliban - now dispensed their own justice, ran their own jails, robbed banks, shelled military and civilian government compounds and attacked convoys at will.

Qaeda operatives are the driving force behind the local militants and are influencing their tactics, the officials said. The militants have managed this despite a hammer-and-anvil strategy in the region, with American military forces pressing from the Afghan side of the border. There have been three American strikes in the area in the past six weeks, involving missiles fired from remotely piloted Predator aircraft operated by the Central Intelligence Agency, but whether they were an expression of American frustration or the outcome of a burst of intelligence remains unclear.

Despite government denials, the officials said, the strikes may have had the tacit approval of Pakistan’s leadership, which has issued mostly pro forma condemnations. The officials asked not to be identified because their supervisors do not allow them to talk to the media.

Pakistan’s military has become more cautious about emerging from its bases in North and South Waziristan, and the civilian administration is so hamstrung that the senior government representative in South Waziristan does not even live there

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this is not good in light of the direct video release by obl. the video is simply a slap in dubya's face and the 2 are priming for a duel. dubya cannot do anything much in iraq but nobody cares what happens in pak-afgan border. since there's assured base for launch from either side of the border, dubya will be foolish not to launch more uav attacks. people in the xfire are unfortunately cannonfodder.

now add pressures in Mush because of this. The only logical end of this is to put a muffler on such attacks. meaning less press coverage

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Somebody seems to be HAPPY to hear that! hint hint: TheReal... :p

Everyone is entitled for their opinions. People usually see what they want to see.

al-Qaeda and its affiliates are on the run in Pakistan. But if someone thinks that they can be exterminated by a few operations then he is only fooling himself. There are many people in FATA who support these lunatics, and who consider their support to be the matter of Islam and kufr. Therefore, they will keep popping up whenever they could.

(Dang! I hate it when I explain the obvious.)

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I am simply passing on a report of what is happening on the ground.

However Pak Army would do better if they concentrated on being a professional Army instead of part time civil servants and business men intent on building their real estate portfolio and bank balances.

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This is not good news.

Pakistani govt. must do its utmost to capture or kill the militant and terrorists wanted by the US.

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Pakistan Army are loosing the mind game. Watched a very intresting documentary on Waziristan. The Wazir's where saying we helped the Americans they promised to root out terrorists etc.... we helped them but then they arrested 'my son' who was innocent and now I dont know where he is Bhagram, Guntanamo?. The US commander made us a promise now the commanders replaced every 3 months and previous promises not kept. Lack of trust on both parties.

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Don’t be so gullible to believe whatever people say. People have agendas, and just see the post history of the original poster to see what he stands for.

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did anyone read the book that obl had recommended ?
The rogue state?

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Who knows OBL might be a US agent considering he was CIA before? :D

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and bush goes to the moon and back on daizy the jumping cow

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I didn’t write the news report. Some people only believe what they want to believe :rolleyes:

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Too much power in any hand is bound to be abused somehow. Nobody wants Army to run the country. Even army did not want to run the country.
Well, I know a lot of people may disagree with this statement, and I have no time to explain. This is just what I think it is.