Haris I know you will love this. A BBC correspondent interviews PAF filots after their missions. Just listen to them. Can you identify any of them? This was shown on ARY Digital so you may have seen this.
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Haris I know you will love this. A BBC correspondent interviews PAF filots after their missions. Just listen to them. Can you identify any of them? This was shown on ARY Digital so you may have seen this.
WOW ! What confidence these young pilots have!
5Abi do u think we are still producing these proud, professional and competent pilots? I sure hope so. Thanks for posting that clip
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"Getting shot down by an Indian? I don't think its possible" spoken like a true hawk!!!!!
A most excellent clip.
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This is an all time classic!
Thanks for posting it 5Abi Excellent work! :k:
It’s a collectors item I could keep watching it over and over. 
Earlier when i had seen it on tv i had only been able to recognize good old Sqn Ldr (later Air Cdre) Sajjad ‘Nosey’ Haider SJ. What a cool dude.
“They can take a good look at me now!”
The guys the interviewer talks to after Sajjad Haider are i think Arshad Sami Khan and Air Marshall retd Mohammed Arshad. Arshad Sami is the shorter one on the left, he is Adnan Sami’s father if i’m right. Behind them the officer with a slight mustache & sunglasses who’s smiling looks so familiar…and the last guy, a Flt Lt is also extremely familiar, i’m trying to link names to faces 
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Salute to our Air Force.....
We have similar record in 1971 also....
"Well they say they shot us dead, yeah 3-4 times they can take a good look at me now"
What a comment. Undeniable....
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wow that is so great thanks a bunch
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"Well they say they shot us dead, yeah 3-4 times they can take a good look at me now"
What a comment. Undeniable....
no we dont in 1971
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I don't have the stats right now but in East Pakistan only, we had how much about 12 planes? And the Dhaka Air Base was continously raided by Indian Air Force yet the onslaught was deterred for 3 weeks and in that time 31 (Or I guess 34 was the figure) Indian Aircrafts were hit fron ground to Air Attack........., yet we left 6-7 air Crafts in East Pakistan after the fall of Dhaka which alread made the ratio 31:5 .....
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Not sure, but a crude comparison at this website. Only for you 
http://www.pafcombat.com/combat-losses/iaf-1971-indo-pak-war.htm
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WOW ! What confidence these young pilots have!
5Abi do u think we are still producing these proud, professional and competent pilots? I sure hope so. Thanks for posting that clip
I have no doubts that the our armed forces are as professional, competant and patriotic as they were in 1965. We should all feel proud that we can count on these men (and women) when call of duty comes, be it during wartime or peace times.
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In 1965, PAF had the latest planes (and tanks) of the USA, whereas India had a motley collection of older planes (and tanks). Even the morale of the Indian armed forces was suspect - after the hammering they got from China in 1962.
Pakistan had been itching to go into battle knowing all the above factors and started infiltrating Kashmir (check Grandslam in google). Despite all this and help from iran, china, indonesia etc - they achieved nothing and lost more land than they gained.
The Indians despite these handicaps went to battle to do or die for their country. They did well and their morale shot up and in the 1971 War Pak took a hammering. Even China, Iran, Indonesia (saudi etc) thereafter decided to take a U turn and started sending feelers of friendship to India.
Its the Indian Pilots & warriors, I sulute
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Wow what a confident bunch of lads.....thanks 5Abi
Hai jazba junoon to himmat na haar
justujoo joh kare woh chuai aasmaan
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wow thanks a lot for sharing the video. 
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Th Indian pilots went to the air, to " do or die" in their puny planes against the most advanced planes (and tanks) of that time - thats Bravery!!
To boast and be arrogant shows the Pakistani pilots immaturity. If the tables had been turned and they were up against superior planes, the Pak pilots would have not even gone in the air.
Remember kARGIL - not a single plane went up, scared ofcourse that India had better planes and their F 16 were no match - thats cowardice.
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Every Services head tries to get maximum proportion of the defence fund, so whats different.
The Pak navy, airforce keeps saying the same - to get more funds. Heck, even the USA airforce is doing the same against the SU 30 MKI planes.
Anyway, don't try to change the topic - you have to admit the Indian pilots were brave, they went into battle knowing fully well their chances of survival was low against a much superior plane. Compare this with Pak pilots - when they do'nt have a superior edge, they don't want to go to battle??!! Kargil.
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- The Hawker Hunter was a newer aircraft than the F-86. The F086 entered service in 1949, the Hawker Hunter in 1953. Indeed, the Hawler Hunter was sufficiently advanced that even Britain’s Royal Airforce retired it from service in 1963, just 2 years before the war of 1965. The Hunter’s armament of 4 20mm cannons meant that it had an enormous advantage it firepower over the Sabre, which had merely 6 12.7mm machine guns. The Hunter and the Sabre also had similar top speeds.
The Folland Gnat enjoyed even greater firepower than the Sabre or the Hunter - it had 2 30mm cannons. Again, it had a similar top speed to the Sabre. The Gnat was an even more modern design than the Sabre - it first flew in 1955, 8 years after the Sabre’s first flight.
- Indian planes in Kargil operated almost completely on the Indian side of the LOC; if Pakistan was to send its planes against those, that would require Pakistani planes to cross the LOC. As the Pakistani government has repeatedly pointed out, no Pakistani forces operated on the Indian side of the LOC during the Kargil conflict - it would thus be impossible to use planes against the IAF.
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So the F104 supersonic planes & most superior arnament & the huge B 57 bombers, which are mentioned proudly in all Pak sites - do not even get a mention by you.!!!
You may try, but you can't hide the facts. The Indian pilots were the brave ones, they flew against such overwelming odds and still held their own - with their blood.
PAF did'nt have the guts to fight fair & square in Kargil. Just like the Pak army - pretending there were only Jihadi's there - did'nt even accept their dead soldiers bodies!!
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Haha i loved that comment.. "They can take a good look at me now!" LOL!!! Too good.