Packing Heat & Learning How To Use It

Any licensed gun owners on GS?

Did you take any proper training to learn how to use one? Not talking about just going to a gun range. How long did it take? Any recommendations for a first time buyer as well tips you would like to share?

Where do you keep the gun at home? If you have family how do you keep it away from the kids? Hidden in a safe? Locked in a closet?

I am obviously not talking about hunting here. So if you do own a gun, have you also taken any defense classes as well? Or do you think in a bad case scenario (think robbery) a gun just to scare or heck even to use for self defense should do it?

As a gun owner how would you convince a skeptic that carrying heat depending on what city you live in can be a life saver?

Husband & I are looking into concealed handgun licensed course. What should we watch out for in order to get the best possible instructing experience?

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The length of the training course is usually short and they will teach you basic stuff. Gun ranges are for practising aim and other stuff.
I don't think you need a gun. It's not a toy. You have children of your own. How are they? Chupchap ya shararti or larake? His good are your instincts and judgement? Do you panic? What's the crime rate? Do you really need a gun?
I hope they ban guns.

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Ethan I am fully aware of the fact that its not a toy. Heck till yesterday I wasn't even up for my husband owning one let alone ready to learn how to use one myself.

But then something happened last night that prompted me to look at guns differently. Its all about knowing what to use & when & how to use it.

I do have a child of my own. She is not chupchaap or sharaarti & she was the reason I wasn't comfortable having any guns lying around in my home. Locked in a safe or not. Husband has been insisting on this for the past couple of months & I was successfully dodging the conversation but now I want one more than he does. Last night I had a a possible attempted robbery (thank God I didn't open the door & was somehow able to make the person/people go away) & the city I live in is apparently notorious for armed robberies. In the heat of the moment all I could think of was reaching for a darn chef's knife. And I instantly realized I would rather hold a gun just to scare someone then try to scare them off with a knife.

Now obviously one does require a good amount of proper judgment when they use such things & as far as easily being panicked is concerned, who doesn't panic in life or death situations. But am I person who knows how to hold composure at worst of times, then yes I do. Guns have always made me feel uneasy but truth of the matter is just as they destroy lives they save lives too & when it comes to protecting my family I'll rather be safe than sorry.

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Americans and their obsession with guns and need for protection from mostly imaginary boogeymen. :rolleyes:

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Good move.

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Did you take any proper training to learn how to use one? Not talking about just going to a gun range. How long did it take? Any recommendations for a first time buyer as well tips you would like to share?

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it is good to have training if you dont have any exposure. i did not took any course just used it @ range.

Good luck and please keep on using the gun at range, its important for user to have feel of the gun so can use it when necessary.

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Only if everything bad or evil was in fact as imaginary as the Boogeyman. Wouldn’t life be perfection :slight_smile:

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Thank you. Got it. We do plan on practicing at a range as much as we can. Husband always wanted to do this as a hobby. I on the other hand just plan on learning & practicing every now & then so my aiming skills don't rust up eventually.

Okay now time for a silly question. Assuming you are a guy so it didn't take long for you to get comfortable with a fire arm. Husband was showing me Youtube videos of the "basics" & I have to admit seeing guns up close just on a laptop was making me uncomfortable. How do you get over the fear off a deadly weapon? One silly mistake & things can go extremely wrong right.

I used to to believe that guns only look good in the hands of proper authorities. That's the only time I feel safe looking at a gun but obviously my mind has changed. Still its kind of hard to get "comfortable" with the idea of holding one myself before getting shaky. How do you get over that fear?

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For protecting house hold, get a big gun. Its not easy to hide. No family member can sneak out hiding it from you.

OMG I am turning into my father :p
12gage is good. you can have small slug cartages, so no kill only protect.

Binte that sounds really scary and I'm glad you are okay. Don't have a clue about guns except as clumsy as I am I would shoot myself in the foot first. Stay safe and with kids... find a place where they cannot reach it. Kids and guns scare the daylights outta me.

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I am packing heat right now and i know how to use it
I hEaRt SanDiego cigarette lighter.
And trust me i know how to use it:sunnyboy:

Ok can I give you a sincere advice? Don't buy a gun. That is just not a safe thing to have in the house, especially the one with a kid. I can't think of a single incident where in case of an immediate threat, I have enough time to bring out a hidden gun and load it and raise it for my defense. Immediate threats need to be tackled within seconds, and unless you have a loaded gun sitting at your hand reach, it is just not gonna help.

If I were you, I would get a dog instead, or move to a safer neighborhood.

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^Or a sign that says you have a dog!

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This is exactly the point that I was going to bring up.
The event that you described would not have even given you enough time to go unlock a safe and load a gun to protect yourself. What's the point.

There are more cons than pros to having a gun in the house, in my opinion.

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12 gauge is huge. There is no way you can hide that. But then I see your point. We only have an almost 4 years old in the house at the moment & once we buy the gun we do not intend on letting her know that we have one in the house till she absolutely has to find out somehow. Hopefully not till she is a preteen at least. So not worried about anyone sneaking it out from us.

Other than that I am thinking for conceal & carry which I highly doubt I personally will ever have the need to do. Isn't it better to buy a hand gun vs a shot gun.

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you can consider TASER/Stun guns.
Silk Road is open again ...you can get some deadly deadly tasers

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TLK Bhai as much as I would love to get a dog (animal lover here) I can't because of obvious reasons. Although the more I read into it, it seems like Islam doesn't really prohibits keeping a dog in the house (talking about the whole Paak/Napaak issue here) but that's another topic for another thread. Not to forget I already have my hands full with fishes. We can't afford to keep a large house pet right now. No time for walks, training & grooming. At least not right now.

As far as moving to a safer neighborhood is concerned. We are currently living in the heart of the city, its a very safe neighborhood, gated community with night patrol & great neighbors but is the city & we do plan on moving to a neighboring suburb within 2-5 months. But from what I have heard from people who have been living here long & from all the local news I watch, it seems like no neighborhood is 100% safe here. Obviously there are are places that have very low crime rate & then there are places with huge gated communities but then so far while visiting friends even in the suburbs we have successfully managed to enter a gated community before always signing in or waiting for someone to let us in. We have heard of planned armed robberies even in the safest neighborhoods here.

Going back to the first thing you mentioned about not having enough time to load a gun in case of an immediate threat, I used to give the exact same reasoning to my husband when he started talking about owning a gun. To me keeping a gun in a house with a child used to be a very horrifying thought. I actually did a lot of research on it as to how so many accidental gun deaths involving kids are recorded as attempted murders so we never get to hear about how dangerous keeping a gun at home with kids can be but then in a detailed article I read (It was an anti gun article), every single case had a child find gun just laying around somewhere. Not even in a drawer but open in the living room, under a sofa, on a coffee table, behind a TV, on the mantle, parent's bed or even the front yard.

And as far as having enough time to load a gun is concerned. Then this will get long but lets say someone rings my doorbell, I answer it but don't open it & these people are persistent because they know what they want. There are many cases where they watch your household or neighborhood for a couple of days to find out who is home & who is not at different times of day so they can execute their plan accordingly.

Anyways so they are knocking or trying to intimidate me which 2 nights ago happened. The Ahole new there was a lady in the house even before he could hear my voice. Its scary to know that this person knew who was behind the door. The way he was talking loudly & trying to convince me to open the door was scary. I am glad I called my husband right away & started talking loudly to let this person know that I had help coming. Obviously I used a string of words to let him know my husband is calling the police as well as how he will be home in 2 minutes. He was still 10 minutes away & we didn't call the police either.

Now I have only heard of one case so far where a group of people have shot through the door & barged in. Shot 2 guys in their legs & then looted the whole house. Obviously this is the worst case scenario & we don't live in a jungle so something like that happening to us is highly unlikely but going back to dealing with the immediate threat. The first thing I do is check where my child is, check the garage door & then go to the place I keep my gun. If I have practiced enough times to quickly open the safe & open the gun case, it shouldn't take me more than 10 seconds max to get my hands on the actual gun. At this point I call the police & stay on the phone with them, now while I am loading it, I start walking either towards the door to check if these people have left or not or check my windows to see if they really do plan to barge in. If you talk to a police officer they will tell you, more than often when an intruder or a robber hears you load your gun (the clicking sound) they will run off. All I have to do is tell the operator on the phone loud enough for everyone on the other side to hear that I have a gun & I won't hesitate using it if I have to.

Now if they are your average run of the mill kiddos, they will run off & never even think about coming back to your house, probably even your neighborhood (cause if one house has a gun, what are the chances of others not having one either) If God forbid, it is a properly planned robbery with armed people & a getaway car waiting for them then I sure as hell would love to cause some damage to others before someone tries to harm me or my child. Now in the above mentioned scenario if my husband is home then it gives us even more time to prepare as one can reach for the weapon while another secures the child & calls the police.

Does all this sound scary? It sure does. It probably sounds absurd. But I dealt with just a glimpse of it 2 nights back & the emotional turmoil was bad enough to make me change my mind about keeping a gun in a house with kids. I realized its all about what you choose to do in those split seconds. No ADT or an approaching Police car can make me feel secure more than how much a concealed gun at my own disposal can.

And it won't be like you are showing off in front of your kids to every Tom, Dick & Harry that you own a gun. Its there & if God forbid the need ever comes to use one, it comes out. If not then no one talks about it.

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Tell me about it. That's why I am planning on taking a proper class just to learn how to use one & then we have gun ranges everywhere here so I can practice as much as I can. Can't believe I am talking about taking a class to learn how to use a gun. My siblings will go crazy just at the thought of this lol. I disliked guns with a passion till just 2 days back. But dude it was scary. The whole thing was scary. Little miss has proven to be a samajhdaar kid so far. Hopefully she does the same in future too & hopefully InshaAllah this prep always remains for nothing & we never ever face anything scary again.

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Muzna I would most definitely have had enough time to unlock a safe & load a gun within adequate time. I have thought about it over & over again. Keep on repeating the whole scene thinking what would I have done differently & how my composure might have been different if I indeed had a gun at that point. You know I used to think just like you. I have mentioned this in almost all of my posts in this thread but when you actually deal with a real life situation, it makes you question your believes & opinions & sometimes makes you alter them as well.

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Who needs some silly underground website when I can just go to my nearest sports & outdoors store & legally buy what I need :)

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^^Wont be as deadly as the underground one. might be good for nice tickling.