Nawaz went to Clinton because Musharraf asked him to.
Read General Anthony Zinni's biography. Zinni is a close friend of Musharraf and in his bio he says that he told Musharraf that if India were to open up another front, Pakistan faced annihilation (his words.) Zinni said that Nawaz was dead set against a pull back but Musharraf was the one who asked him to arrange a face saver.
India refused to even let the US mediate. This is conformed by 3 separate accounts of the events.
Talwar, Its is said that omar was betrayed by a sindhi hindu (who was a raw agent and was a garment merchant in karachi)who somehow acted as an Al-quaida agent but leaking informatiios to RAW.
Indeed Omar could save his life when Pakstani secutirty forces were asked to catch him by the U.S intelligence. 
The latest reports show that OBL is close to somewhere in Pak territorynear china and U.S officials warned India that he might try to sneak in to Indian territory.Indian army has increased its troops on the border and put active vigilence.
well, all i know is that news was spread by usa , not india. indians were pissed off on americans as they leaked their covert operation. India didnt confirm the news yet.
and regarding the resolution of spy camera, you dont need to see the face of a person to identify him. even 20X20 is good to locate a person. the spy cameras are only lead, they identify the unusual movement, pattern etc. like obl would never go anywhere alone, and the way he might travel(with a group of cars, young mens etc) is good enough to raise the flag. I mean you dont need to know the number plate of enemy's tank, all you need to know is it is there.
I remember seeing a photo by indian satellite in which they showed a man smoking in his car outside the a airport in america.
generally countries tell too less about their capablities or exggagrate it very very much to confuse the enemies.
so, my conclusion is we will never know whats goin on. may be some day we will hear the news of death/capture of obl but nothing else.
like in the case of saddam, we dont know how he was captured actually. all we know is he is in custody of americans.
kakay you got the confusion part right.. but one thing I can't understand... US said that their satellite images did not tell the correct story and that is how they were lead to believe that Iraq had WMDs .. but you are saying that Indian satellite technology can pin point a person smoking a cigar outside and airport.... does India have superior technology when it comes to satellites? If so please lend some to US so they can avoid making these grave mistakes in the future...
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kakay you got the confusion part right.. but one thing I can't understand... US said that their satellite images did not tell the correct story and that is how they were lead to believe that Iraq had WMDs .. but you are saying that Indian satellite technology can pin point a person smoking a cigar outside and airport.... does India have superior technology when it comes to satellites? If so please lend some to US so they can avoid making these grave mistakes in the future...
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chachoo, i am not sure if you are being sarcastic but here's my unsarcastic reply.
i dont believe that america didnt know that iraq had no wmd's. I dont buy that as a reason to attack.
plus i dont want to say that india has superior tech than usa . usa is simply the best but at some points india scores over usa.
india has better remote sensing tech than usa, usa is india's biggest satellite data buyer. Indian govt never claimed that they have a spy satellite, they denied all the time.
but thats not the issue here.
usa had to attack on iraq, they did it. it dont matter what their satellite said, they didnt care. now blame it on satellites to save your face.
I was not mistake, it was a delibrate plan to fulfil their intentions.
about the image of a man smoking a cigar, as i said before either countries exgggagrate too much or tell too less. may be it was propoganda, may be it was not. i dont know for sure.
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Its called ‘Politics of diplomacy’ whether he’s in Pakistan or not
its irrelevant. Pakistan know when to produce him and when not.
USA holds the menu that Pakistan can serve for a price,
Whats wrong with that??,
I encourage the fact that our ‘Indian friends’ should think that Pakistani’s are way below par with their Indian counterpart. No harm in this thought., It might serve Pakistan well in the Long run 
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Good for Living room talk !! 
If Indians can buy such Technology from Russians and Israel good for them. Where do they want to use it, unless you have a bigger agenda,
ps; To buy is another thing, to keep it working through maintenace is another,go figuer !!
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well, all i know is that news was spread by usa , not india. indians were pissed off on americans as they leaked their covert operation. India didnt confirm the news yet.
and regarding the resolution of spy camera, you dont need to see the face of a person to identify him. even 20X20 is good to locate a person. the spy cameras are only lead, they identify the unusual movement, pattern etc. like obl would never go anywhere alone, and the way he might travel(with a group of cars, young mens etc) is good enough to raise the flag. I mean you dont need to know the number plate of enemy's tank, all you need to know is it is there.
I remember seeing a photo by indian satellite in which they showed a man smoking in his car outside the a airport in america.
generally countries tell too less about their capablities or exggagrate it very very much to confuse the enemies.
so, my conclusion is we will never know whats goin on. may be some day we will hear the news of death/capture of obl but nothing else.
like in the case of saddam, we dont know how he was captured actually. all we know is he is in custody of americans.
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Excuse me ,Are you sure that you have really seen a photograph like this?India has never claimed anywhere that it posseses such a superior technology or even it has spy satellites.All the world knows is that some western analysts allege that Indias first satellite Arya Bhatta was meant for espionage.But given the technological edge India posseses and the time frame through which Indian satellite or space technology has come,one can assume that India posseses spy satellites or even its technological sharpness in that direction is atleast good.
But I strongly believe that india posseses spy satellites since its greatest threast China posses the same and is aiming for new reaps in space in exploration.
so talwar mind sharing with us where obl is :D
i want to personally slap him 100 times :D
The title of the thread should say 'News Flash' .. not the other way around.
it should read BULL****.
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I personally think if Osama is hiding in Pakistan, ....
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Then go catch him instead of issuing Lallu Parsad statements.
Wow. What a riposte! 