Re: original shia part 2
a. The Prophet restricted the right to rule to a specific family even in the sunni view of Islam i.e. the tribe of Quraish. So if you have a beef with heriditary rule, you'd have a greater objection to Sunni Islam, whereas in the shia view of things the right to rule was just as heriditary as the Prophethood staying in the Abrahimic lineage..
Even though I'm sunni, I think this is bull too. There is no indication of this in the Quran. If anything, God keeps talking about how people are all one one level footing. Even the Prophet has spoken of how there is no difference between even a non-Arab and an Arab.
If you have Quranic evidence of this, please do show me, otherwise its getting filed in the "bull****" cabinet.
By this very claim, Musharraf should not be in power. In fact, all of Pakistan's major positions should be held by descendants of the Tribe of Quraish.
The claim also implies that Arabs are our leaders.
Do you see where the illogical consequences come in?
As to your indication of the cloak incident, I was trying to figure out if that's a hadith or that's in the Quran. Again, if God says "I desire your purity", it does not equal to "I have put noor in your heart, and made you pure, and also in addition to that made you infallible - now go claim your throne of leadership".
The shias wanted Ali to lead. To lead before Abu Bakr. And if its because of his great deeds, then fine, I'd have voted for him too back in the day. But to say that only Ali's progeny should be leaders is really twisted. Its different from saying - hey this is a holy group of people, pay heed to what they say and do.