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Just to clarify. I have been a big critic of MQM. I know they have been involved in violence which can not be supported. But I don't consider it MQM specific issue. Karachi is a mess.
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hanibal & khoji,
thread ka POV wahi ka wahi reh giya 
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whats the point of discussion.
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Another cheap shot. Why don't you only discuss Punjab issues? You obviously are following Ganja brothers' prejudiced politics. LK used a very general phrase of "people of Karachi" without any reference to anything. I asked where exactly he is getting this information. What's wrong with that?
I like to have a good discussion. Not taunts and abuses like school kids.
MQM ko gaali diye baghair kuch logon ka khana hazm nahin hota.
Kaala Naag Altaf Hussain Mota continues his murdering spree on the basis of ethnicity and his blind supporters continue to defend that joker.
Re: Open fire at Rally - MQM's silent
Just to clarify. I have been a big critic of MQM. I know they have been involved in violence which can not be supported. But I don't consider it MQM specific issue. Karachi is a mess.
LOL! You guys dont even admit Altaf Hussain is a convicted murderer as per the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
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Many MQM supporters don’t want to publically admit they support the biggest terrorists in Pakistan.
So they hide behind the line 'I don’t support the MQM, BUT…blah…blah…blah.."
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MQM is involved in this killing there is not doubt about it hence no condolences as usual like other killings. But I am surprised to fact that rally was organized by PML(N)'s Marvi Memon, I have seen no condolences and condemnation from Nawaz Sharif even from Imaran Khan who are trying their best to get seats in Sindh. To me they have kept silent to make room for future alliances with these terrorists. They make alliances with these terrorists and left Sindhis no choice to re-elect PPP or may be some Sindhi nationalists in the coming elections. All these politicians are doing politics on the dead bodies of innocent people and mqm is a winner. It is really a shame.
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Although there is no official condolence by MQM.. Their attitude towards the issue in some of TV show was also very pathetic. They didn’t want to make things cool down and came up with the same arguments as are written on Karachi’s wall. Why Non-Sindhi can’t be CM, bla bla bla.. Why quota system is in place. If MQM think that these issues to be settled then why it didn’t blackmail PPP like it did for gaining ministries,. This shows that MQM is not even sincere with their voters and just does lip service to show that they are their only saviors.
Look at Raza Haroon, how he behaved insensibly and agitated the person whose rally was attacked.
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shameful!!! the moment the guy mentioned may 12th, things got nasty!
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Kaala Naag Altaf Hussain Mota continues his murdering spree on the basis of ethnicity and his blind supporters continue to defend that joker.
Kaala Naag? Here comes the racist bigots out of the cupboard to spew more of their racist poison.
BTW, why didn't you change your own photograph in the avatar?
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So they hide behind the line 'I don't support the MQM, BUT...blah...blah...blah.."
But that's true. I have threads started here on gupshup against MQM's past policies. I can look for them.
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MQM is involved in this killing there is not doubt about it hence no condolences as usual like other killings.
If MQM would be involved then it would actually do more and more condolences so as to look innocent.
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I think MQM did that.
MQM condemns Karachi killings, seeks strong action :: SAMAA TV ::
KARACHI: MQM leader Raza Haroon Tuesday condoled with the families of those killed in firing on a political rally in Karachi. Twelve people were killed and many more were wounded when unknown gunmen opened firing on an Awami Tehrik’s rally in the city.
Speaking to SAMAA, Haroon called for string action against the culprits.
I can also show Palejo threatening bloodshed before coming to rally and after the rally.
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Ok they may have given a statement, but their attitude was bit odd while appearing in TV shows.
BTW did Altaf Hussain condole and gave a statement on this issue?
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The link you provided also contain this:
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To a question, the MQM leader Awami Tehrik’s leader Ayyaz Palejo was not a public representative. SAMAA**
:smack2: and shame on such attitude of a political party supressing others view by calling them non-entity (as also he did in the video I posted)
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Well, at least you admitted that you were wrong earlier. Had I not come up and show that to you then you would have harped this lie everywhere.
Doesn’t MQM represent Altaf as well? Why do you want condemnation from each and every leader of MQM?
BTW, where is the condemnation of other incidents from your favorite PAC and Uzair Baloch? Where did they condemn attack on Swabi bound bus? Condemn extortion or kidnappings?
What was the question asked?
You can not judge the answer without knowing the question.
And he was not wrong about Ayaz Palejo’s party being non entity. He gets zero votes in Sindh. Just expressing this truth doesn’t mean it is “suppression”. 
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What I fail to understand, people from all walks of life were in the rally, Sindhi/Baloch/Muhajir/Pashtu/Punjabi ... it wasnt like one particular ethnic group was present there.
If the motive was not to attack one particular ethnic group, then I'm afraid it seems like those who have carried out this attack are not in favor of "Intact Sindh"
what is even more worrisome, that this might be not the last time they attacked innocent people, these cowards will try to put hurdles and carry out similar attacks in future as well.
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My point is MQM’s aqa is very active in condemning certain issues, but in issues where they don’t have clear instance (division of Sindh), he keeps on silent and his lower staff come up with condolence statement followed by non-entity remarks. Whatever the question was, is it necessary to do away with your responsibility in case of killings of people from particular group by calling them non-representative. Raza Haroon did that in Jasmines’s program by addressing Ayaz Palijo 'Who is he? non-representative '. Why MQM does not call 'Muhajir Sooba Tehreek ’ a non-entity, when they were the part of resolution passed against such division. Had MQM’s reaction and non-seriousness would be the same, if God forbid, an attack was made and people were killed in Mohajir Sooba Tehreek rallies? certainly not.. They would have killed many and must have followed the infamous Youm e sog to show their jageerdari of Karachi.
Altaf Hussain condemn minor events like a grenade attack on a fish shop on Jamshed Road, where thanks to almighty, there were no casualties.
Altaf condemns terrorist attack on Jamshed Road
But he remained silent on the killing in a rally against Division. This all shows their criminal hypocrisy.
PS: quote my single post where I supported Uzair Jan. It would be better if we talk on the issue rather than pointing fingers on each other.
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- Using words like 'aqa' for someone only belittles you yourself.
- MQM's stance is quite clear, I think. They say that they don't want to divide the province if local bodies elections are held.
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Whatever the question was, is it necessary to do away with your responsibility in case of killings of people from particular group by calling them non-representative.
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It is necessary to know the question in order to determine if the answer was appropriate. Everything else is just your speculation. What 'doing away with responsibility'? You can only object if what they said about Palejo's votebank was wrong.
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Why MQM does not call 'Muhajir Sooba Tehreek ' a non-entity, when they were the part of resolution passed against such division.
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It is open to everyone that they are a non-entity. But MQM is clearly inclined towards the idea if local elections are not held. Now MQM IS a political entity.
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Had MQM's reaction and non-seriousness would be the same, if God forbid, an attack was made and people were killed in Mohajir Sooba Tehreek rallies?
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This can be looked the other way as well. Would PAC's or Palejo's or PPP's or PMLN's reaction be the same if attack was made on Mohajir sooba tehreek rallies?
Actually, Palejo and other Sindhi nationalists were promising bloodshed even before the rally. And they talked of 'avenging' the attack on rally by further killings.
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But he remained silent on the killing in a rally against Division.
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You asked for MQM's condemnation and you saw they did it. Now you are asking of Altaf's condemnation too. He should condemn. I have done it, so I would expect everyone to do it as well. But I can't talk on behalf of others.
All I know is that his condemnation statement doesn't come for each and everything. For example, I did not see his condemnation of attack on Swabi bound bus at Qazi Hussain.
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My question is still unanswered. Why Nawaz Sharif has not condemn this killings? For me it is surprised that even Marvi Memon has not issued any statement though she was leading the procession. As some PPP minister said that it was Nawaz Sharif's move to create chaos and ethnic fighting between the groups in Karachi which now seems to be truth.
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^ Have the culprits been arrested yet? Since every one knows who was responsible for this, did the government ask for explanation from the concerned? Every one else is responsible for the issue other than the government itself?