One Out Of Every Ten Wall Street Employees Is A Psychopath, Say Researchers

No really surprising, but still…

One Out Of Every Ten Wall Street Employees Is A Psychopath, Say Researchers

One Out Of Every Ten Wall Street Employees Is A Psychopath, Say Researchers

The Huffington Post | By Alexander Eichler Posted: 02/28/12 04:22 PM ET | Updated: 02/29/12 04:55 PM ET

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Pictured: Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman, a Wall Street investment banker and psychopath. Researchers believe as many as 10 percent of people in the financial industry may exhibit the traits of clinical psychopathy.

Maybe Patrick Bateman wasn’t such an outlier.

One out of every 10 Wall Street employees is likely a clinical psychopath, writes journalist Sherree DeCovny in an upcoming issue of the trade publication CFA Magazine (subscription required). In the general population the rate is closer to one percent.

“A financial psychopath can present as a perfect well-rounded job candidate, CEO, manager, co-worker, and team member because their destructive characteristics are practically invisible,” writes DeCovny, who pulls together research from several psychologists for her story, which helpfully suggests that financial firms carefully screen out extreme psychopaths in hiring.

To be sure, typical psychopathic behavior runs the gamut. At the extreme end is Bateman, portrayed by Christian Bale, in the 2000 movie “American Psycho,” as an investment banker who actually kills people and exhibits no remorse. When health professionals talk about “psychopaths,” they have a broader range of behavior in mind.

A clinical psychopath is bright, gregarious and charming, writes DeCovny. He lies easily and often, and may have trouble feeling empathy for other people. He’s probably also more willing to take dangerous risks – either because he doesn’t understand the consequences, or because he simply doesn’t care.

An appetite for risk can seem like a positive business trait on Wall Street, where big gambles sometimes lead to big rewards. But for the people DeCovny is talking about, the outcomes matter less than the gambles themselves – and the chemical rush of serotonin and endorphins that accompanies them.

This is hardly the first time that mental illness has been equated with a certain capacity for professional success – especially in the financial sector, where some stock traders have actually scored higher than diagnosed psychopaths on tests that measure competitiveness and attraction to risk.

Some psychologists have long claimed that the qualities that make for a high-achieving politician or stockbroker are also the same traits that psychopaths have in abundance.

Other researchers generalize it to bosses as a species, saying that about 4 percent of all executives are psychopaths – and that their relative lack of scruples is what helps them excel in business.

At the same time, the fast-moving, high-pressure environment of Wall Street probably compromises the mental health of some of its employees. A recent study found that many young bankers develop alcoholism, insomnia, eating disorders and other stress-related ailments within just a few years on the job.

Stockbrokers have also been shown to experience clinical depression at a rate more than three times as high as the general population.

DeCovny writes that for someone with a “latent” compulsive gambling problem, a job trading stocks can trigger pathological responses that send the person into an escalating pattern of lies, debts and even embezzlement and fraud.

A person with this problem would feel gratified by an enormous loss, because of the way their brain’s reward system works – which DeCovny says may explain the activities of such notorious rogue traders as Kweku Adoboli, Jerome Kerviel and Nick Leeson, three men who gambled and lost the combined equivalent of $10.3 billion for their respective institutions over the past 17 years.

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lol this is funny :hehe:

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Not surprising. My friend was telling me about this documentary (or article) about how when these executives get together, they all try to out-yell each other and establish who's "the man". Losers of said contest apparently have trouble getting it up for weeks.

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Word.

There's a docu called 'The Corporation' which basically talks about the same thing. (I think it's on Youtube for anyone who's interested).

I remember 'Inside Job' - film of the decade me thinks - had a fascinating bit about how cocaine and prostitution are endemic to the financial industry. They interviewed "Kristin Davis, a Wall Street madam, who says the Street operated in a climate of abundant sex and cocaine for valued clients and the traders themselves. She says it was an accepted part of the corporate culture that hookers at $1,000 an hour and up were kept on retainer, that cocaine was the fuel and that she and her girls didn't understand how some traders could even function on the trading floor after most nights."

It's true, they're not just outliers. When you have an industry which rewards unethical personal behavior, it follows you're going to attract sociopaths to that industry. No wonder I've never found investment banking types attractive.

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Haters gonna hate...

j/k...I agree IB generally attracts douchebaggy characters. I guess its needed to survive in that place which is why its still a gentlemen's club (not implying that women can't be dbags). Plus with their working hours, none can keep a family so high class hookers are another alternative for them poor rich dudes.

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I can do a thousand now.

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^Kristin Davis looks like a man. Jus sayin.'

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@Contrarian. Interestingly it's not just about 'survival.' These docus go a step further and conclude these guys are pathological sociopaths - which is obviously a spectrum - and that corporations as entities are psychopathic by clinical definition. There's a culture of dissociation with reality, where you start thinking you're omnipotent and not accountable for your actions. Money creates insulation and makes this worse. You're right, some professions just attract flaming d-bags and nurture latent ones. (Surgery comes to mind). To quote one IBanker, "I love my job, it feels like I never left the frat house." Ha.

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I guess their psychopathic ways are an outcome of dealing with equally big and clashing egos of their clients. Theoretically, each should be looking out for the shareholders interests, but how often does that happen. With little to no interaction with an average shareholder, obscene amount of money, and crazy hours, they are certainly a different breed.

Anyway, here is something funny I found…can’t say IBankers can’t laugh at themselves: Portrait of the Young Grad as an Analyst.

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hi chai. i remember this docu but i never got around to watching it. that's my evening sorted, thanks!

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So not tue. Spend some time with one and you will realize how awesome they are

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^ IB d-bag?

I think in bigger firms these attitudes are more prevalent, especially on Wall Street. Boutique bankers tend to be more down to earth.

How does this compare to other fields? Or what traits are over or under represented in diff professions.

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Academia – idealist, disconnected, a bit neurotic, impractical, but still relatable
Accountants – some over-inflated sense of self, but that’s as far as they can get with their generally “adjusted” accounting principles
Entertainers/models – buy into their own brand more than anyone else, which is why they connect well with I-bankers
Musicians – see entertainers, though some can be real passionate
Politicians – absolute sociopaths, goes without saying…power crazed
Firemen/cops – overhyped bravado, but can deliver too
Artists –like academia but without brains and a lot less relatable
Salespeople – thick skinned, lack of self respect, I believe at some point they do breakdown from all the lashing they receive
Mods here – same as accountants but without an official designation IRL ;)
Can’t think of more. Add your own...and yes I am bored and yes I relied on all the obvious stereotypes!

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sounds too low to be true.

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If one out of 10 Wall street types is a psychopath, why is it only the Rajarathnams are behind bars for the most part