According to a hadeeth, it is narrated that the “knowledge”, Ilm, will be taken away as a sign of approaching hour.
What does that exactly mean when we see the over-whelming knowledge more than ever these days and the trend continues to prosper and grow.
One possible explanation given in this case is that the knowledge refers to the knowledge of religion (deen) … meaning that the understanding of religion will vanish.
How true is it?
Understanding of religion (of islam). We have the best book, best way of life to follow and still understanding of how the things should go is minimized???
Does that simply mean that people will be indulged in argument of literal vs metamorphic meanings of Quran without even knowing the context and backgorund of it and how it was understood by the prophet himself?
Please, share your understanding of the matter. It will greatly help me understanding the concept behind this narration.
Quran is a book containing all the guidence for mankind. So in such a brief book we have to find ways of interprettation which make it clear and unambiguous rather than confusing.
Holy Prophet (saw) explained Quran to his companions. His companions taught it to the ones after them. And from then onwards, Hadith was established as the basis for understanding Quran. Everything seems fine until we come across the authenticity of ahadith. Sometimes we find ahadith contadictory to the open (muhkimaat) verses of Quran, like don't kill. So we have to see if total dependence onn hadith in such matters is right. We know that hadith can be weak or forged. There are still a large number of ahadith which are termed zaeef in the sahah sittah. There is another more authentic way of understanding Quran.. Hadith says that verses of Quran explain each other. So the order of understanding Quran should be..
a) other verses of Quran
b) Sunnah and Sahih ahadith
c) The explanations should agree with the logic set out by Quran and Sunnah.
Quran claims to be a sign for people who think and contemplate over its meanings. It also encourages us to find intellectual reasoning for everything.
The "hour" has come on muslims because those who were supposed to know Quran and understand it, just embelish it with articulate speeches and people think that they are "scholars". A scholar in these times should be able to bring the answers to the questions people have in their minds. Scholars should have been able to find the cure for the downfall of muslim nations. We find a scholar who can pinpoint hundreds of faults.. we find him to claim to have understood everything that needs to be understood, but we don't find a solution coming from his side. On the contrary, many such scholars become cause of fightings and wars etc. So the real "knowledge" which is supposed to bring us peace (Islam) has indeed disappeared.
I believe to understand a hadith better, you should read where and in what circumstance did the Prophet saw say that..
If you can post the full hadith it would be great.
i have read that the loss of knowledge means loss of religious knowledge through the death of scholars. and then just before qiyamah, it is said in another hadeeth that quran will be lifted from earth, even the huffaz will lose it from their memory.
wallah o alam
Re: One of the signs of Qiyamah? What does it mean?
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*Originally posted by shoq-e-aawargi: *
According to a hadeeth, it is narrated that the "knowledge", Ilm, will be taken away as a sign of approaching hour.......
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Only Allah knows the time when our universe would end. So please avoid getting into something we all should leave it to Allah.
As far as this Hadis is concerned. Try to understand that "For a man to loose the pursuit of knowledge simply means that Qiamat (or THEEND) has come for the poor soul".
OTOH, a man who continues gaining knowledge doesn’t have to worry about Qiamat. Allah will reward him for his efforts.
This is true for an individual, or a group, or even a country.
Knowledge of Islam disappears with the death of the Islamic scholars (`ulama’).
** “Allah will not retract this knowledge by a withdrawal, [suddenly] withdrawing it from people’s hearts, but He will retract knowledge by retracting the scholars, until, when He has left no scholar, people will take ignorant leaders, who will be asked, and will pronounce verdicts without knowledge, thus going astray and leading others astray.” [Bukhari, Muslim]**
And, when both scholars and knowledge have become scarce amongst people, such that they can either not find qualified scholars, or are unaware even of the qualifications to look for in people whom one consults on religious matter, then it is quite understandable that they should start to regard as religious authorities such people as are unqualified to be such.
** “Indeed, among the signs of the Hour are that knowledge be sought with the petty ones.” [Tabarani]**
This, along with the disappearance of the scholars of higher caliber, is something we have already started witnessing. link
The link further talks about ‘Decline in Religious Knowledge and Practice’ and also other minor signs.
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Only Allah knows the time when our universe would end. So please avoid getting into something we all should leave it to Allah.
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As I said earlier to a reply which is deleted along the post I replied to, let me repeat: Only Allah knows and if it is tomorrow, we do not know either; so better to worry about it and start working for the betterment than never.
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*Originally posted by shoq-e-aawargi: *
According to a hadeeth, it is narrated that the "knowledge", Ilm, will be taken away as a sign of approaching hour.
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I have another explaination for you regarding this Hadeeth.
Knowledge being taken away. You can see that clearly in the present day and age. Which also called the 'Information age'
So, there is information in abundance but not as much knowledge. You can find information on any subject from the internet within seconds. But there are not many who actually have the knowledge about any given subject.
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I have another explaination for you regarding this Hadeeth.
Knowledge being taken away. You can see that clearly in the present day and age. Which also called the 'Information age'
So, there is information in abundance but not as much knowledge. You can find information on any subject from the internet within seconds. But there are not many who actually have the knowledge about any given subject.
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This is also an age of useless knowledge. Has this knowledge that we have in abundance reduced killings and wars? In fact such things have increased. There was another Hadith according to which, Harj , meaning killing would increase, and that is what we see today, like never before.
We must ask Allah for ilm -al-nafie, i.e. knowledge that is useful. Billions do not know who their Creator is, but they know how many times Madonna married.
If you see in our society (Muslim countries), majority have little knowledge of religion. Most are lost in innovations and made up things that bear no fruit.
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Knowledge being taken away. You can see that clearly in the present day and age. Which also called the 'Information age'
So, there is information in abundance but not as much knowledge. You can find information on any subject from the internet within seconds. But there are not many who actually have the knowledge about any given subject.
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I heard it from the host of ARY Digital's program END OF TIME.
This ARY guy is becoming a Doomsday authority day by day.. I think i have seen a couple of episodes and one thing that strikes me is that although the intention is good i.e., muslims regaining their power etc but the means they are trying to explore are only military conquest of the west.
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This ARY guy is becoming a Doomsday authority day by day.
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Actually he comes with better references. The keyword you guys are in love with :-p
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and MAToos would start killing Ahmadis, Shias, Sufis, and other Sunni Maslak. What a prepration for the doomsday.
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you forgot that MAToos like Rus Gullas a lot ;)