Which country would that be, Sri Phoenixdesi?
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I actually like the Indian model or approach to success
Just follow the following 3 simple steps:
Win comprehensively at home like beating Australia 4-0 and South Africa 3-0
Don't give a damn about AWAY series in Australia, England. South Africa and New Zealand. Doesn't matter if you lose badly!
Make sure you play a long series in West Indies and Zimbabwe and win both convincingly.
No 1 spot is guaranteed :)
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And no it's not sour grapes. I am just putting rankings and what they actually mean into perspective. Litmus test for me is how a team does in unfamiliar conditions. Even if Pakistan become number 1 (if India fail to win the final test in the Caribbean), I won't be satisfied until we conquer the final frontier or at least draw the test series in Australia. Yesterday I mentioned Australia's dismal record in Asia in recent times, 9-0. So Pakistan's 2-2 in England is a huge result; no team including India, Australia, South Africa and Sri Lanka has achieved that recently.
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Above being said India are an outstanding one day and T20 team (esp. their batting. infact surprised to see them at #3](http://www.paklinks.com/gs/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=3) in ODIs) and Windies despite their pathetic performances in tests are an outstanding T20 side packed with powerful hitters.
WICB is the most pathetic cricket board imo frequently fighting with their own players, disrespecting them and not paying them the salaries they deserve. The dispute is often about the latter. Sri Lankan Board is not far behind in this regard (financial mismanagement).
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So let's see how the respective test teams have fared in unfamiliar conditions in recent times.
A- Overall which is the strongest Asian test team in non-Asian conditions (in Eng, Aus, SA, NZ)?
B- Overall which is the strongest non-Asian test team in Asian conditions (in Pak, India, Lanka, UAE)?
I have discounted test series against Windies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh as they are weak sides right now.
I have looked at the most recent away series only
Asian Teams:
**
1. Pakistan (Away)**
vs England 2-2 (2016)
vs Australia 0-3 (2009/10)
vs South Africa 0-3 (2013)
vs New Zealand 1-0 (2011)
**
Overall Win/Loss ratio = 3/8**
2. India
vs England 1-3 (2014)
vs Australia 0-2 (2014/15)
vs South Africa 0-1 (2013)
vs New Zealand 0-1 (2014)
**
W/L ratio = 1/7**
3. Sri Lanka
vs England 0-2 (2016)
vs Australia 0-3 (2012/13)
vs South Africa 1-2 (2011/12)
vs New Zealand 0-2 (2015)
**
W/L ratio = 1/9**
**
Non-Asian Teams:
***1. England (Away)
*
vs Pakistan 0-2 (2015)
vs India 2-1 (2012)
vs Sri Lanka 1-1 (2012)
**Overall W/L ratio = 3/4
***2. South Africa*
vs Pakistan 1-1 (2013)
vs India 0-3 (2015)
vs Sri Lanka 1-0 (2015)
**
W/L ratio = 2/4****
- New Zealand ** vs Pakistan 1-1 (2014) vs India 0-2 (2012) vs Sri Lanka 1-1 (2012)
**W/L ratio = 2/4
***4. Australia*
vs Pak 0-2 (2014)
vs India 0-4 (2013)
vs Sri Lanka 0-3 (2016)
*W/L ratio = 0/9
*
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Pakistan certainly need to improve their record in Australia and South Africa
And quite frankly purely based on the above, England deserve the no. 1 test ranking.
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Which country would that be, Sri Phoenixdesi?
yes I heard Bangladesh has climbed to number 1. Congratulations.
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And I did not think that Australia deserved the no. 1 test ranking either with a dismal record of 6-0 in Asia even prior to the series in Sri Lanka
More value should be given to away series and even among away series to a team's performance in unfamiliar conditions (Asian teams in non-Asian and non-Asian sides in Asian conditions). I do not think that the current rankings system takes into account these factors enough or even at all.
The rankings should reflect the reality on the ground otherwise they are nothing but a farce
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So let's see how the respective test teams have fared in unfamiliar conditions in recent times.
A- Overall which is the strongest Asian test team in non-Asian conditions (in Eng, Aus, SA, NZ)? B- Overall which is the strongest non-Asian test team in Asian conditions (in Pak, India, Lanka, UAE)?
I have discounted test series against Windies, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh as they are weak sides right now. I have looked at the most recent away series only
Asian Teams: ** 1. Pakistan (Away)**
vs England 2-2 (2016) vs Australia 0-3 (2009/10) vs South Africa 0-3 (2013) vs New Zealand 1-0 (2011) ** Overall Win/Loss ratio = 3/8**
2. India
vs England 1-3 (2014) vs Australia 0-2 (2014/15) vs South Africa 0-1 (2013) vs New Zealand 0-1 (2014) ** W/L ratio = 1/7**
3. Sri Lanka
vs England 0-2 (2016) vs Australia 0-3 (2012/13) vs South Africa 1-2 (2011/12) vs New Zealand 0-2 (2015) ** W/L ratio = 1/9**
** Non-Asian Teams:
***1. England (Away) * vs Pakistan 0-2 (2015) vs India 2-1 (2012) vs Sri Lanka 1-1 (2012)
**Overall W/L ratio = 3/4
***2. South Africa*
vs Pakistan 1-1 (2013) vs India 0-3 (2015) vs Sri Lanka 1-0 (2015) ** W/L ratio = 2/4****
- New Zealand ** vs Pakistan 1-1 (2014) vs India 0-2 (2012) vs Sri Lanka 1-1 (2012)
**W/L ratio = 2/4
***4. Australia*
vs Pak 0-2 (2014) vs India 0-4 (2013) vs Sri Lanka 0-3 (2016)
*W/L ratio = 0/9 *
The 0-2 vs Australia could easily have been 1-1. Umpiring was biased beyond belief. Yes india got a couple of decisions in favor. The overwhelming of 50 and 50 and even things in Idina favor by 70 30 went Aussie way.
So ratio could have been 2 to 6.
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Damn umpires..
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Why is Sri Phoenixdesi afraid to debate me?
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they better play a lot of test cricket and keep winning if they wanna retain that spot. Otherwise it won't take long to lose few spots