On Death Bed

Heard about many dying people that they saw their dear ones who died before them. They took names of dead ones and sometimes said things like ‘you have come to take me with you’.

Whats the reason behind such experiences? Is it religious beliefs?

or its due to state of unconsciousness?

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Kanaam pohara pooram kettu arriyanon?

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It’s hard to say. People also have out of body experiences, and see a white light, and those experiences have been explained by brain chemistry. It’s hard to separate placebo from fact. When it comes to near death experiences, spirituality, and out of body experiences, my position is that we can only explain how things happen scientifically, and it’s a matter of philosophy to try to make sense of it. You can choose to believe that it’s God and the afterlife, and that the chemistry in your brain is the mechanism by which God is making you see things, or you can choose to believe that it’s just chemistry, with no deeper meaning outside of what you choose to take away from the experience.

Ultimately, the reason for why one thinks these things happen, imo, is a choice.

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translation please. :slight_smile:

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is brain chemistry affected by religious beliefs and other experience of a dying person, as most of the time dying person experience and say same things on death bed, which were previously said by those died before him/ her.

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There is a festival called Pooram. So one day a person going to the pooram asks one returning from pooram: how is the pooram?"

The returning one says (translation) " why do you want to know about it now when you are going there to see it?"

Good topic.

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Are you saying that the dying person says (knows) things that a dead person said before, things they would have no way of knowing? Or are you saying that everyone who dies tends to say the same thing?

If it’s the former, I have never heard of that so I can’t comment on it. As for the latter, it goes back to what I said. Brain chemistry makes you have that effect, but your beliefs and experiences are what alter your interpretation of the effect (what you say). If you’ve heard that you see dead ones when you die, then when you’re dying, you expect to see your dead relatives and in your near death state, you do (or at least think you do) see them. It would be interesting to see if the same effect occurs in cultures or areas that don’t have the belief of seeing your previously dead relatives as you die, and whether or not people still have that effect.

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Yes I’m talking of the experience by dying person in same cultures / areas. Its same most of the times. Also education and other exposure may affect the way people experience things on death bed.

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:cb: on the contrary, we have this idiom in Urdu ‘Jis gaon jana nahin uska raasta kia poochna’, but we all have to go this way, so the curiosity.

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Probably any intoxicating drug…:0

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Medically its very much expected behavior due to less oxygen in brain, patients do start hallucination. If you notice its not only under dying condition, a relative less sick person can hallucinate as well.

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altered states of reality, doesnt take much - anything as common as fever and delirium to bhaang can give you visions and experiences.

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but why the hallucination experience of persons living in same cultures / areas is most of the time same. Isn’t hallucination is the state of unconsciousness?

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No, not necessarily. Ive seen various people hallucinating lively and Im sure it must have something to do with wuts there in the back of mind cuz thats the first thing that appears to be there. Not sure about the culture part though.

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so feeling presence of dead ones on death bed is as simple as seeing dead ones in dreams or experiencing something after taking drugs?

Look into Allen Kardec & Chico Xavier’s works.

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Ive wondered this too… Closer to her death… My dying mil would see her dead parents and brother all calling out to her… Telling her its gonna be ok… She kept seeing this for 2 weeks upto the day of her death…

Dnt know if it was hallucination or if a dying person really does see dead relatives… Wont knowuntil its our turn, and sometimes not even then :slight_smile: