Re: Oh God , we have wasted 1400 years and still.....
in pakistan,
* no body knows his neigbour is hungry from two days
* no body cares about the poverty which took the youth to robbery and mobile snatching
* no body bothers about how many young girls become over-age because of lack of money for dowry.(jahaiz)
* no body thinks about how many poor children are compelled to child labour for poverty.
*no body likes to talk about the consequence of cable tv and blue films in every nook and corner of this country due to which rape cases have increased to alrming rates
*no body wants to talk about difficulties middle class family in this age.
*no body consider the due to cable tv the youth has shattered psychologically, mentally and in every aspect
* no body take care about the roads flooded with" new cars of leasing froms bank" as interest(sood) is minor thing.
no body bothers about that because these are "" minor "" issues.
the "major" issues are " are prophet(peace be upon him) noori or not?
or is he know the knowledge of " ghaib" or not?
so we all keep our nerves burning in "these major issues".....................................................................................................................................................
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we are happy because..............
*In every summer vacation ,we have "Umra trip" in which we enjoy shopping at dubai , take some gold jewellery of ARY gold , visit shopping malls of Jeddah as well as " remove our sins" per year.And on retun we say that with great humbleness " Ji Allah ka bara karam hai"
*in our groceery stores we make black money , zakeera andozi , less weight , but you see , we are not 100% fraud , we give ""ZAKAT" and ""SADQA"" out of it
to purify these "minor" things in our stores and on the face of the store , the bright green and red Neon sign lits on night to say""""HA ZA MIN FAZL_E_RABBI""""
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If 95% of our population do not say prayer (even in home , not to ask about a mosque) , then this is not a matter of any consideration....................!!!!!!!!!!!!
the real matter is """" if you do rafa yadain """"" or """aameen billjahar""""
or not...............
or """"where you put your hands on chest or little below"""""""""""
you see , these are the """"real matters""" but we keep ourself busy in other"" minor matters""
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Friends plz. tell me,
hum kya karain.I want your suggessions anyone who read this plz. pass some comments or give his or her views ...... what is the solution o this problem ???
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no body bothers about that because these are "" minor "" issues.
the "major" issues are " are prophet(peace be upon him) noori or not?
or is he know the knowledge of " ghaib" or not?
so we all keep our nerves burning in "these major issues".....................................................................................................................................................
Absolute I agree, only one question hits my mind is does it affect Islam our Iman anyway. But they are major points which are hidden and as a Muslim country we should, lead as an eg, but we are just the opposite way round.
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First question is do we submit our will to Allaah truely or be Dunya fied.
Once its submittign our will to Allaah then follow the Quran not for blessing or barkat ke liye but for Deeds, hamare Amal ke liye a distinction has be made otherwise things are impossible for a change.
Re: Oh God , we have wasted 1400 years and still.....
no body bothers about that because these are "" minor "" issues.
the "major" issues are " are prophet(peace be upon him) noori or not?
or is he know the knowledge of " ghaib" or not?
so we all keep our nerves burning in "these major issues".....................................................................................................................................................
Well Actually The Biggest Problem of Umat e Muslim is tht They consider islam as a Mazhab but Infact its not a reality.Islam is a collective system And A deen where every muslim hve to take part for betterment and advancement of the society.And we had seen in the past tht Muhammad(pbuh) did make the society where every muslim was following quran and taking part in a deen as a true follower of Allah.Jaab Allah aur rasool ke Ataat ko Alag Alag kar dia gaye tu Deen ke jagah Mazhabi Paishwayaat nay lay le jis Ka Natija Hum sab ke Samnay hai.Kabhi Capitilism aur Democracy ko Aain Islami kaha Jaata hai aur Kabhi Socialism ko Jis se Sisaaat AUr IQditaar Deen se Alaag hoo Gaye Mazhabi Scolars nay Masjid Sanbhaal liyeen Aur Capitalist nay Goverment tu is ka Natija Mazhabi Munaafqaat ke soorat main aya.Aur Yea chiz 1 cen 2 cen ke baat nahi 1000 years se muslims is ko Follow kar rahi hai.Neither we have a Islamic estate nor we Hve a Quranic Based Society.
i don’t understand why we have all the sunni shia wahabi business goin on…we follow the same Quran…we believe in the same God and we all believe that Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is the last prophet so why do we have different sect.?..can someone please explain this
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yeah.. just become a whirrling dervesh and whirrl yr way to jannah, ut beware of those clockwise whirrling heathens, u must only whirl counterclockwise.
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We can all keep passing judgement against each other because of our differences, while forgetting that judgement is Allah's Domain not ours. The fact remains that Allah's Mercy is above all the only criterea that matters and that we can hope for Allah's Mercy to prevail..... **The worst sin that Shaitan committed was pride, **
I am better than him......
**When we judge others that is what we are committing too???:( **
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one of mine friend said i was trying to create fitnah , by god , i stared this thread to remove the misconceptions we hane inside us.But the point is to be noted taht that difference is the essence of a civilized and growing society.Is their ny more precious relationship as between a child or a mother but there are a lot differences in them but will they fight over this , no... two brothers one wants to se soccer match other likes cricket, one siister likes" dal chawal" while other sister eats "Biryani".Now all of them fight over this , not at all.
Actually difference give new ways , open new horizons and create openess as in democracy , every one has a right to disagree , speak and express his or her views , there is no fear of anyone , freedom of expression , so the same case is in fiqah issues every one?( mujtahid) has a right to interprete unless not missing the quran and sunnah and every one has a right to follow anyone he thinks moreknowledgable .Suppose i am from hanafi school of thought and some of my friend is ahle hadees now he has a right to follow anyone or if he not follow anyone, only quran and sunnah, this is his right , who the hell was i to object him or critisize him and the vice-versa.
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** if Thomson not negate the atomic theory of Dalton , if Rutterford do not done it to Thomson , If Neil Bohr do not done it again to Ruttherford , can we all be in this nuclear age or can Pakistan be a nuclear power , certainly not.
Still thomson bohr and ruttherford all had very good relations among them till their death, will they call each other "kafir' and like that ???????????
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** there is big difference of opinion between all 4 schools of thought , but you will be surprised to know that imam shafi remained for 6 months in home of imam Shafi as his guset, in the same house, to learn hadees or i think even more time he spent there.
Similarly when somebody asked imam malik about imam abu haneefah , he said a historical line that " the power of his "istadlal" is so much that he can proove that the wooden made" mimbar of masjid_e_nabwi" is made of gold." What a great honour from one imam to the other , but we, as their followers, spent our whole life that in a particular matter whether imam shafi is more wright or imam abu haneefah and keep on quarreling and then atlast come the stage of (((((((( kharig_ul_diara_i_islam_)))))) or even more to " munafiq" "kafir" and ""wajibul qatal".
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if a man who truly follows a quran and ahadees we call him a wahabi. I am myself a "sunni from hanafi school of thought" but i think personally , wahabi are more islamic than any other sect because they strictly follow quran and ahadees.But they follow mostly Bukhari and Muslim shareef , a 100% true texts of hadees and we all also consider ahadees which are not 100% shaheeh say 70 or 80% saheeh .In examinations you even pass of 33% or 40% so this is the only difference but "yaar log to rai ka pahar bana daitay hain".so plz. go on these minor issuses of " rafa yadain" and " ameen biljahar" , there are ahadees in their favour and not in their favour.But the degree of shaheeh is different.So in my opinion , all are correct , as your intention is , to follow the sunnah of prophet(peace be upon him
I agree brother! there unfortunately is too much wahabiphobia. :)
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i agree with SindSagar 100% , may Allah abstain all of us from prde , for it ruins the person. But the purpose that i quoted from (islam-qa) website the three long questions and answers , a bit tedious and difficult to read but as you srtart reading it , you will will flow with the way of his excellent exppression, is to minimize the differences as much as possible , to eliminate it , it is impossible , 100% impossible . And this only happens in a dumb , deaf and blind society , not a living one.Differences remain there but there is respect of others point of views as well.
