Officials say FBI number hundreds in pakistan!

http://www.iht.com/articles/68837.html

KARACHI, Pakistan On the front lines of a shadow war against terror in Pakistan, FBI agents are working undercover with local security forces who have a long history of human rights abuses.

The joint effort is cloaked in secrecy. The U.S. and Pakistani governments will not discuss, officially, exactly how many FBI agents are working in Pakistan, citing security concerns and the political fallout that President Pervez Musharraf could face.

Some Pakistani officials say privately that the number of FBI counterterrorism specialists in Pakistan is in the low hundreds. An FBI official, speaking in Washington on the condition of anonymity, confirmed that “between several dozen and a hundred” FBI agents are in Pakistan at any one time, working closely with local and federal police and intelligence officials.

Some human rights experts contend that any FBI agents or other Americans involved in the initial arrest share criminal responsibility if the detainees are tortured or mistreated later. Pakistan, according to the FBI official and other U.S. law enforcement authorities, has become one of the most important - and active - beachheads in the bureau’s anti-terrorism effort. But it is also among the most sensitive, given the country’s strong undercurrent of Islamic extremism and anti-Americanism.

FBI officials, as well as a senior Pakistani military officer involved in the anti-terrorism effort, confirmed that agents have gone on many such raids while dressed in local garb so as to not attract attention. Those agents, said one FBI official, are acting in an advisory capacity only.

None of the detainees’ relatives or lawyers suggest that U.S. officials are directly involved in harming anyone, but they say they do fear that the Pakistani police are torturing the prisoners once they are out of sight.

LA Times had a front page article on this:

**Pakistanis See FBI in Shadows **

Law enforcement: Counter-terrorism agents work alongside local security forces that have long been accused of human rights abuses.

By PAUL WATSON and JOSH MEYER, TIMES STAFF WRITERS

KARACHI, Pakistan – On the front lines of a shadow war against terror in Pakistan, FBI agents are working undercover with local security forces who have a long history of human rights abuses.

The joint effort is cloaked in secrecy. The U.S. and Pakistani governments won’t officially discuss exactly how many FBI agents are working in Pakistan, citing security concerns and the political fallout that President Pervez Musharraf could face.

Some Pakistani officials say privately that the number of FBI counter-terrorism specialists in Pakistan is in the low hundreds. An FBI official, speaking in Washington on the condition of anonymity, confirmed that “between several dozen and a hundred” FBI agents are in Pakistan at any one time, working closely with local and federal police and intelligence officials.

Some human rights experts contend that any FBI agents or other Americans involved in the initial arrests share criminal responsibility if the detainees are tortured or mistreated later.

Pakistan, according to the FBI official and other U.S. law enforcement authorities, has become one of the most important–and active–beachheads in the bureau’s anti-terrorism effort. But it is also among the most sensitive given the country’s strong undercurrent of Islamic extremism and anti-Americanism.

The FBI’s precise activities are unclear. Officially, about a dozen agents are providing “technical assistance,” including sharing information on terrorist groups and training Pakistani police to track down and apprehend Islamic militants. Other agents are working with Pakistani police in old-fashioned “search and arrest” dragnets.

There have been some high-profile successes in the cooperative effort, including the capture of a top Al Qaeda leader, Abu Zubeida, and some of his lieutenants in March at a fortified safe house in Faisalabad, and the identification of suspected “dirty bomber” Jose Padilla.

But there is mounting suspicion in Pakistan that U.S. investigators, believed to be from the FBI or CIA, are involved in the pursuit and arrest of people who have then disappeared, or quietly been deported, as Musharraf’s government tries to control Islamic extremists.

In interviews, relatives of terrorist suspects have described groups consisting of two to four foreigners participating in Pakistani police raids, usually as silent observers who closely monitor searches.

FBI officials, as well as a senior Pakistani military officer involved in the anti-terrorism effort, confirmed that agents have gone on many such raids dressed in local garb so as to not attract attention. Those agents, said one FBI official, are acting in an advisory capacity only.

None of the detainees’ relatives or lawyers suggested that U.S. officials were directly involved in harming anyone, but they said they do fear that Pakistani police are torturing the prisoners once they are out of sight.

The U.S. is a signatory to a 1984 treaty that bans participation or complicity in the torture of prisoners or other forms of mistreatment. The prohibition became U.S. law, said Kenneth Roth, executive director of the New York-based Human Rights Watch.

“If they are actively participating in the arrest and incommunicado detention of a suspect, anyone involved in law enforcement knows those circumstances are an invitation to torture,” Roth, a former federal prosecutor, said from New York.

“So they would have to demonstrate considerable naivete to think these people were going to be put up in a five-star hotel,” he said.

Some U.S. constitutional scholars and legal experts said that even with the treaty, it would be nearly impossible to hold the United States liable for the actions of its partners in the war on terrorism, including the torture of a suspect.

To do so, a plaintiff would essentially have to prove that the torture was done at the direction of the United States, or with the direct participation of U.S. officials, said Jonathan Turley, a professor of constitutional law at George Washington University.

“You can’t just make the case that the U.S. failed to intervene,” Turley said. “It would require a very high level of proof… It is a very high threshold.”

In Pakistan, arrests without warrants, disappearing prisoners and mysterious deaths in detention are chillingly common, human rights reports by the U.S. government and private groups have shown.

For years, the reports have shown a pattern of police abuses, including torture, the rape of female prisoners and illegal detentions to pressure the families of wanted suspects.

The FBI official said the bureau and Justice Department are acutely aware of the potential pitfalls of pairing up with local police in countries such as Pakistan, where the accepted standards of police behavior are lower than in the United States.

Many such countries, U.S. officials said, engage in torture of suspects and other human rights abuses. How to conduct overseas investigations in alliances with such governments is an ongoing problem in the growing assault on terrorism, they said.

These operations go beyond Pakistan, and beyond the FBI, which has made the transition from a primarily domestic law enforcement agency to one focused on gathering intelligence. The United States has deployed CIA agents, State Department officials, military intelligence operatives and others in covert capacities to go after terrorism cells the world over.

But Pakistan is considered critical because potentially hundreds of Al Qaeda and Taliban members are thought to have found a haven there after the U.S. military strikes in neighboring Afghanistan.

“What do you do [otherwise]?” one FBI official said. "Not do an investigation?

“We go where our leads take us,” the official said. “If there is a presence in another country, we will work with the law enforcement and intelligence services in those countries. But because a particular intelligence service has been accused of abuses does not mean you can walk away from investigating matters in that country.”

The FBI and Justice Department officials would not comment on a U.S. role in any particular raids. But witnesses to the arrest of Atta ur Rehman, suspected leader of the radical Islamic group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, connected to the kidnapping and murder of American journalist Daniel Pearl, suspect that there were indeed U.S. agents present.

The June 16 police raid on the home of Rehman’s family went down just before the first call to prayer, when everyone was still asleep in a shanty house targeted as a terrorist’s lair.

Pakistani Rangers, whose officers use the assault rifles, armored vehicles and heavy machine guns of a military force, kicked open the flimsy front door. Then dozens stormed into the house waving assault rifles and shouting for people to put their hands up, witnesses said. Rehman’s sister Kulsum Bano hurried into another room to hide her face.

By the strictures of purdah, the ancient tenet of orthodox Islam that guides a woman’s modesty, she could not be seen by any male outside her family, let alone angry police who rousted her from bed.

In another room, the police found the man they wanted: Rehman. Police know him better by an alias, Naeem Bukhari, and say he commands the notorious Lashkar-e-Jhangvi.

Rehman had given them the slip two years earlier, but authorities began searching for him in earnest after he and his militants were accused of kidnapping and murdering Pearl and bombing the U.S. Consulate here.

Rehman was living in his family’s home when the police came to get him just two days after a suicide car bomber attacked the consulate, killing 12 Pakistanis. FBI agents joined the investigation immediately after the blast.

Watching from the shadows while police searched her home, Bano noticed four foreign men in plainclothes among the uniformed federal Rangers. They didn’t say a word but moved from room to room, closely watching the search of cabinets, drawers and other areas, she recalled recently.

Because the foreigners never spoke, Bano said she has no idea who they were.

About half an hour after storming into the house, police dragged Rehman by the hair and collar, and shoved him into a white car at gunpoint.

That’s the last his family has seen of him. A provincial judge ordered local police to produce Rehman in court. They insist that they don’t have him, and never did.

“We fear that they will torture him to death because they are not acknowledging his arrest and are not disclosing his whereabouts,” his sister said.

The day after the raid, Bano’s lawyer went to the provincial High Court to file a habeas corpus application, which demanded that police either charge Rehman or set him free.

In the application, she accused police of taking her brother without an arrest warrant, illegally detaining and torturing him, and demanding a bribe of about $5,000 for his release.

She named four officers from the Sindh provincial force’s criminal investigation division: Deputy Supt. Zulfiqar Junejo, Inspector Sajjad Haider, Supt. Farooq Awan and Officer Fayyaz, whose first name was not given.

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Anwar Alam Subhani, the force's law officer, denied in a July 31 affidavit that Sindh police had arrested Rehman.

The affidavit also denied local newspaper reports, quoting unnamed police officials, that said police seized a massive arsenal--including four truckloads of ammunition, plastic explosives, 242 Kalashnikov assault rifles, 136 rocket launchers and 2,700 hand grenades--when they arrested Rehman. Bano claims that police left her house with only her brother and a roll of film, which she says were wedding pictures.

Three days earlier, police raided the Karachi home of another suspected Lashkar-e-Jhangvi member, Mohammed Faisal Bhatti, around 4:15 a.m. In an affidavit, his mother, Shahzada Begum, accused three of the police officers named in Rehman's case of kidnapping her son. Three foreigners in plainclothes were with about 25 Pakistani police in the family's apartment for about 10 minutes, Begum said.

Speaking off the record, police have told Pakistani reporters for several different publications that they have Rehman and at least two other suspects in Pearl's murder locked up.

They say they don't want to charge the men, or publicly acknowledge that the suspects are in custody, because they would undermine evidence that convicted the accused mastermind of Pearl's murder, Ahmad Omar Saeed Sheikh, and three accomplices last month.

Pakistani police investigators have also suggested privately that they believe Rehman ordered that Pearl be killed. One Karachi police source claimed that Rehman brought in three Yemenis to carry out the murder and the dismemberment of Pearl's corpse.

A Pakistani police officer who participated in a separate raid on the Karachi hotel room of a U.S. citizen said four FBI agents, one of them a woman, joined in the June 1 operation after Pakistani police failed to persuade a desk clerk to cooperate.

Acting on information from U.S. officials, the police went to the Metropole Hotel and asked the desk clerk to let them into the room of an American identified as John Turner, said the source, who spoke on condition he not be named to protect his job.

Turner, the source added, was a documentary filmmaker traveling on a U.S. passport, issued at the U.S. Interests Section in Havana. It contained valid visas to enter Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan.

The desk clerk only let the police go up to his room after FBI agents arrived and insisted that he let them in, the source said. The FBI agents interrogated Turner for about two hours, and he told them that he had been in Afghanistan working on a documentary in ethnic Pushtun areas where the ousted Taliban regime is still popular.

During the questioning, the police source added, Turner was critical of U.S. policies in Afghanistan and what he called Washington's support for Israel against the Palestinians. Both are popular views in Pakistan, and Turner hadn't broken any local laws, but the source said he was deported anyway.

In a personal court action challenging the FBI's role, Karachi lawyer Suhail Hameed went to court Aug. 2 to demand that Musharraf's government show under what, if any, legal authority U.S. agents are working in the country.

Judges Zahid Kurban Alavi and Ghulam Rabbani dismissed the petition. They said it was inadequately drafted because, for example, it failed to include specific allegations of wrongdoing.

The lawyer told the judge that he had kept it vague for fear of being branded an Al Qaeda supporter but said he may return to court seeking answers on FBI activities.

Islamic extremists have already declared war on the FBI in hundreds of leaflets distributed in Pakistan's North-West Frontier Province and the South Waziristan tribal area, along the border with Afghanistan, as recently as early this month. The leaflets name 120 people accused of spying for the FBI and say Al Qaeda members will receive $100,000 for each one killed.

Suspicion that FBI agents are aiding Pakistani police who routinely break the law only feeds seething anger among a small but very dangerous minority of Pakistani radicals, warned Khawaja Naveed Ahmed, a Karachi lawyer who recently proved in court that police had secretly detained four of his clients for more than two weeks in a police station.

"America is the flag-bearer of human rights all over the world," the lawyer said. "In our country, 70% of the people are silent. Only people who are either political or victims are vocal. They naturally are saying this is not a good practice. It's making new enemies."

**Noted surgeon picked up for al-Qaeda link **

By Ziaullah Niazi

LAHORE: The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents along with officials of Pakistani sensitive agencies Monday noon arrested a noted orthopaedic surgeon, Dr. Amir Aziz, for allegedly providing bio-chemical weapons formula to Taliban and al-Qaeda.

Dr Amir, a former chief executive of Jinnah Hospital, was picked up from Ghurki Hospital, Ghazi Road, where he was performing his duty. Sources told The News the FBI had reports that Dr Amir had treated al-Qaeda and Taliban fighters injured during the US bombing of Afghanistan.

It has also been learnt that Osama bin Laden also remained under his treatment. Interestingly, Dr Amir is an orthopaedic surgeon and has nothing to do with bio-chemical weapons.

Dr. Amir Aziz was being interrogated by the FBI and Pakistani officials for the last three days. He was appearing before these agencies on daily basis for interrogation. He had been told to prepare his passport. Monday noon, two FBI agents accompanied by the Pakistani official picked him up from Ghurki Hospital where he was performing his duty. “He has been taken to an unknown place from where he will be shifted to the US,” the sources disclosed.

Aziz, who is in his early 40s and is son of a retired army officer, was known to have close contacts with the former Taliban regime. He had been a regular visitor to Afghanistan when the Taliban were in power. Dr Amir had been supporter of Afghan Mujahideen during the Afghans’ war against the former Soviet Union. He had been supporting the mujahideen by giving them free medical treatment as well as money. He had been collecting donations for the mujahideen, particularly for the activists of Jaish-e-Muhammad and Harkatul Mujahideen, fighting against the former Soviet Union.

Known as a religious man, he had been operating several free clinics in Lahore. Dr. Amir was very close to former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s family. He was the first ever chief executive of a government hospital in the Punjab. He was also a provincial health adviser to the federal government until military ruler President Pervez Musharraf took over in a coup in October 1999.

When contacted, District Police Officer Lahore, DIG Javed Noor, said Dr. Amir was not wanted by the Lahore Police and they had not arrest him. He had no information about his arrest, he added. Dr. Amir Aziz’s family was not available for comment as his residence phone was not attended.

Rauf Klasra adds from Islamabad: A close aide of former Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, Dr Amir Aziz, who was picked up by the FBI from Lahore on Monday for allegedly making chemical weapons and Anthrax for al-Qaeda, had visited Kabul with a team of specialist doctors recently to rehabilitate a hospital.

This was stated by Imran Aziz, brother of the detainee, while talking to this correspondent on phone from Lahore. He criticised the government for what he termed an illegal act committed by the FBI without any authorisation on Pakistani soil.

Dr Amir Aziz commands great respect in the community particularly after he refused to compromise on principles and resigned from the top position of a hospital during the Shabaz rule.

He had also served as an official doctor for Pakistani cricket team for a long time. He is well known for his services to the suffering humanity. Imran Aziz said his brother was being victimised for helping the poor Afghans.

He said Dr Amir had gone to Afghanistan with a team of doctors after getting formal visa from the Kabul Embassy in Islamabad and worked with a team of international doctors from California.

He said his brother was a religious person, but it does not mean that any one who has a tilt towards religion be picked up by the FBI.

He said Amir had not gone to Afghanistan alone nor he entered into the war-torn country illegally as he had a proper visa and official travel documents and he came back after discharging his professional duties.

He said many other professional doctors had also gone to Afghanistan on humanitarian mission. He said the FBI was harassing the best Pakistani brains as it first did in the case of one renowned scientist by keeping him in illegal detention. He said his doctor brother is a great humanist and he could not even think of what was being associated with him by the FBI.

pakistanis should have controlled the situation. it is much easier for
international jihadis to roam the country than bihari muslims stranded in bangaldesh to come to pakistan who were pakistani citizens and fought with pakistan.

This is a News to me.So many FBI agents in Pakistan and doing what?Keeping a tab on what is going on?Dont they believe Pakistani Agencies?

This says it all:

The lost honour

Humaira Masihuddin

''Where is the ‘dignity’ and ‘honour’ of this nation? We hear that Waziristan was bombed by the Americans a few days ago and recently the newspapers reported that a Pakistani doctor has been picked up in Lahore by the American FBI.

I would like to ask who has given this government the right to let foreign governments bomb Pakistan and foreign investigative agencies the right to rough up Pakistani citizens on Pakistan’s soil. Specially when our own criminal justice system is intact and functioning. I hope the threat to Pakistan’s sovereignty will be the first issue that will be debated in the Parliament.

I’ve been following arrest case of Dr. Amir. First his brother said: He has never been to Afghanistan. Afterwards, his family said he wanted to help poor people of Afghanistan. And then, the following news came out:

I hope it’s not true!

Dr Amir met Abu Zubaida

KARACHI: Dr Amir Aziz is being interrogated by joint Pak-US investigation teams inquiring into his alleged contacts with top al Qaeda leadership, sources told The News.

The arrest of Pakistani doctor, who was carrying out philanthropic activities in Afghanistan, triggered a storm of protest among the medical-community.

Aziz had been visiting Afghanistan frequently during which he came into contact with large number of Taleban and al Qaeda leaders, the sources alleged. “We don’t know for sure if he is involved in any terrorist-related activity. But he remained in contact with important al Qaeda leaders like Abu Zubaida. This contact alone is enough to raise serious suspicions,” sources said. “We are still investigating the nature of his contacts with Abu Zubaida,” they added.

Zubaida was arrested from Faisalabad in a joint Pak-US agents raid in early 2002. He was a key member of the al Qaeda top leadership and had remained involved all along in recruiting activists and planning for al Qaeda’s actions.

The name of the doctor came up during investigations of those being held in Guantanamo Bay. “Aziz visited Afghanistan at least thrice in the aftermath of the 9/11 at the time when everybody was rushing out of that country. This is not to say that we have reached at a conclusion about his involvement in terrorism but we are investigating his links and contacts,” sources said.

If a doctor visits afghanistan from pakistan he is called terrorist if doctor from france or america go in they called humanitarian relief.

What a complete joke :eek:

Dr. Aziz was arrested in Lahore two weeks ago by Pakistani military intelligence and FBI agents after al Qaeda prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, gave his name during interrogations.

Doctors from France or America don’t treat terrorists, they treat victims of terrorists.

Dr. Aziz, OTOH has treated Bin Laden and his men. so he was arrested.

Latest Development: Mr. Aziz is still a suspect. God Bless Pakistani Judicial System!

Judge Rules on Pakistan Doctor

A judge in Pakistan has intervened in the case of one of the country’s top doctors, allegedly taken away by intelligence officials for suspected links with the Taleban.

**After a brief hearing on Friday in the city of Lahore, high court judge Tasadduq Hussain Jilani stopped any plans for the possible extradition of orthopaedic surgeon Aamir Aziz.

The judge also asked for the government’s written response to two petitions challenging Dr Aziz’s detention. **

Warizistan was Bombed by US, published in Nawai Waqat :hehe:

LHC Seeks Report on Dr Amir Today

LAHORE, Nov 7: Justice Tassaduq Husain Jilani of the Lahore High Court on Thursday directed the federal and the Punjab government to submit detailed reports about the arrest and whereabouts of Dr Amir Aziz by Friday morning.

The judge gave the direction on a writ petition filed by Mrs Zakia Aziz, mother of Dr Amir, who came to the court in her wheelchair.

The judge directed Deputy Attorney-General, Danishwar Malik and Additional Advocate-General, M. Bilal Khan to inform the court that who had arrested Dr Amir and under which law he was charged. He directed that the court should also be informed about Dr Amir’s whereabouts.

Counsel Ehsan Wyne, Iftikhar Shahid and Syed Manoor Ali Gilani submitted that Dr Amir had been arrested under the US campaign to nab innocent people. The only crime he had committed was that he was serving the ailing humanity on the call of his profession.

They submitted that Dr Amir had neither been produced in any court after arrest nor any case had been registered against him.

They prayed to the court that an order for recovery and release of Dr Amir be issued as the legal formalities for his arrest had not been complied with.

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Doctors from France or America don't treat terrorists, they treat victims of terrorists.

Dr. Aziz, OTOH has treated Bin Laden and his men. so he was arrested.
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Talwar

I know your a fanatical hindu extremist who supports the rape and genocide in kashmir.

But a doctor treats any victim regardless of his status!

Is there any evidence of Dr. Aziz meeting with OBL and Dick Cheney? :rolleyes: