He is according to David Icke’s article on the following link;
David Icke Website - Obama Article
Its a long article…but somewhere in the middle it mentions something about Obama being against Pakistan etc…
What are your views on this?
Re: Obama a fraud?
list reasons why he shouldn't be against pak?
Re: Obama a fraud?
^^ true!
oo pakistan dey chachay da puttar aey?
Who even at the least care that he is against or with Pakistan. 170 millions and 600K Armed Forces are enough to guard Pakistan and its national interets !
^ hye yeh khushfehmiyan.
No ,its not khushfehmia, those poor who could not succeed in the country like Iraq and Afghanistan(having no army,navy and air force and still saying we have control over 20% of Afghanistan) for 7 years, so why we Pakistanis even 0.1% worry about whether he is with or against Pakistan .I mean, who cares for that.They will even not look at Iran Nuclear Program as thier economy is already on death bed.
No ,its not khushfehmia, those poor who could not succeed in the country like Iraq and Afghanistan(having no army,navy and air force and still saying we have control over 20% of Afghanistan) for 7 years, so why we Pakistanis even 0.1% worry about whether he is with or against Pakistan .I mean, who cares for that.They will even not look at Iran Nuclear Program as thier economy is already on death bed.
Please do some research on Iran's economy. They will not look at Iran cuz the country is strong enough to defend itself.
Pakistan, well, we can only 'request' US not to send too many drones into our territory. USA already has control over Pakistan military. Why attack us? ;)
No ,its not khushfehmia, those poor who could not succeed in the country like Iraq and Afghanistan(having no army,navy and air force and still saying we have control over 20% of Afghanistan) for 7 years, so why we Pakistanis even 0.1% worry about whether he is with or against Pakistan .I mean, who cares for that.They will even not look at Iran Nuclear Program as thier economy is already on death bed.
you are telling me that if USA decided to attack pak...our army will be able to defend the country..? if you think USA will have 2nd thoughts bcos of nuclear weapons...then rest assure that USA will first take care of nuclear weapons and then it will take care of pak. if they can humiliate qadeer khan and make regular vists/attacks on northern areas then wht make you think they can't do that on a larger scale? to fight and survive against india was a different thing. USA is in a totally different league.
Please do some research on Iran's economy. They will not look at Iran cuz the country is strong enough to defend itself.
Pakistan, well, we can only 'request' US not to send too many drones into our territory. USA already has control over Pakistan military. Why attack us? ;)
Drones killed no. of high value targets of Al-Qaeda plus Government has allowed to do so. We are also fighting horrible fight with these foreigners in Bajaur an Mehmaand right at this moment.So its our interset to take help from drone like high tech weapons but crossings borders no way ,Mullen came running Islamabad after giving statement to US Senate Defence Committe of crosing borders and Kyani responded withing 2 hours to him.Defence capability of Iarn is not even 50% of Pakistan,not boasting,but check the stats plus in any worst case, we have option of using Strartegic Weapons and u know what it means !
you are telling me that if USA decided to attack pak...our army will be able to defend the country..? if you think USA will have 2nd thoughts bcos of nuclear weapons...then rest assure that USA will first take care of nuclear weapons and then it will take care of pak. if they can humiliate qadeer khan and make regular vists/attacks on northern areas then wht make you think they can't do that on a larger scale? to fight and survive against india was a different thing. USA is in a totally different league.
No no brother, they have not enough 'water' to take care of Iraq and Afghanistan like countries,attacking Pakistan is a very big thing.They can wet thier beds early morning dreaming of doing that .Election winning campaigns shouts and ground realities are always miles away.Dr.Khan did illegal smuggling so that why he was terminated but not handed over to US or even to IAEA.Nuclear Weapons are not remote controlled with 1/0 button to switch them off by someone neither they are lying on Blue Area or Anarkali Lahore that US would be able de-weaponized them .
Drones killed no. of high value targets of Al-Qaeda plus Government has allowed to do so. We are also fighting horrible fight with these foreigners in Bajaur an Mehmaand right at this moment.So its our interset to take help from drone like high tech weapons but crossings borders no way ,Mullen came running Islamabad after giving statement to US Senate Defence Committe of crosing borders and Kyani responded withing 2 hours to him.Defence capability of Iarn is not even 50% of Pakistan,not boasting,but check the stats plus in any worst case, we have option of using Strartegic Weapons and u know what it means !
Again, Iran might not be militarily stronger than Pakistan but economically and that's the important thing these days.
The war in north of Pakistan spilled over from Afghanistan where USA would not contain it. It is American war that we are fighting. Effectively, USA already controls us.
Re: Obama a fraud?
Coming back to the topic. Why do some people believe that USA's policies towards Pakistan would change once Obama is incharge?
i.e. Obama saday chachay da puttar aey?
No no brother, they have not enough 'water' to take care of Iraq and Afghanistan like countries,attacking Pakistan is a very big thing.They can wet thier beds early morning dreaming of doing that .Election winning campaigns shouts and ground realities are always miles away.Dr.Khan did illegal smuggling so that why he was terminated but not handed over to US or even to IAEA.Nuclear Weapons are not remote controlled with 1/0 button to switch them off by someone neither they are lying on Blue Area or Anarkali Lahore that US would be able de-weaponized them .
n the plutonium that be brought into pak to make nuclear weapons...was also stolen and thus illegal. how come pakistani government didn't punish him then and only did after being pressured by the USA?
as for everything else regarding pak army, government and its defence...well dream on...thats the best pakistanis can do and are best at.
Coming back to the topic. Why do some people believe that USA's policies towards Pakistan would change once Obama is incharge?
i.e. Obama saday chachay da puttar aey?
obama apne matta-pitta ka na ho saka...chachay ko to zaroor hi ghass dalay ga...
Re: Obama a fraud?
Is the same Daivd Icke who thinks the queen is a lizard?
Obama being “against Pakistan” makes him a “fraud”? Please work on your vocabulary or try using google for the words that you use in your posts.
No no brother, they have not enough 'water' to take care of Iraq and Afghanistan like countries,attacking Pakistan is a very big thing.They can wet thier beds early morning dreaming of doing that .Election winning campaigns shouts and ground realities are always miles away.Dr.Khan did illegal smuggling so that why he was terminated but not handed over to US or even to IAEA.Nuclear Weapons are not remote controlled with 1/0 button to switch them off by someone neither they are lying on Blue Area or Anarkali Lahore that US would be able de-weaponized them .
If you are talking about US not able to "conquer" Pakistan and establish its writ in Pakistan completely then I completely agree with you. However if US wants to attack Pakistan then it wouldn't be too difficult for them considering our Mushy's statement of 2002 (not having enough ammunition) and our nukes won't be of much help against US as we don't have any super carrier to send it across oceans.
Obama being "against Pakistan" makes him a "fraud"? Please work on your vocabulary or try using google for the words that you use in your posts.
Thank you for reference to GOOGLE, its a case of reading the article and deciding for yourself and its not just referring to Pakistan!. In future refrain from making personally insulting remarks!
Thank you for reference to GOOGLE, its a case of reading the article and deciding for yourself and its not just referring to Pakistan!. In future refrain from making personally insulting remarks!
I sure will refrain from any suggestions in future. However with a thread title "Obama a fraud?" and you pinpointing the paragraph about him being against Pakistan, thats an easy "conclusion".
The article way too long for me to spend time reading it, I skimmed thru few paras and didn't see much material than Bush himself (meaning empty, accusations).
May be you can guide us and share the paragraphs of interests where the writer actually exposes how he is a fraud, what lies he spoke etc.
Re: Obama against Pakistan?
[note]If this thread is to stay in PA, I will have to modify the thread title, since it would pertain to Pakistan[/note]